no character creator has yet to top saints row 2. they just have a “body” slider on top of all the normal “slim/fat”, “short/tall”, “lanky/muscular” stuff that morphs where the body fat goes. if the booblies get too big your character gets a bra.
Femality is stored in the nipples
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lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
4am@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Ha! That’s awesome I love it
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Man, I’d PAY for a modern remake of SR2 that kept it basically as is but added better gfx/QoL stuff. That game was the peak of the series imo
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You say peak of the series but it still lacks the massive purple dildo from later games
Napster153@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Have you seen the Street Fighte4 6 avatar creator? That might change your mind given how many eldritch abominations walk in the multiplayer hub.
lime@feddit.nu 2 months ago
yeah, it’s definitely more insane. but i think sr2 is the best in terms of representation.
justdaveisfine@piefed.social 2 months ago
Give the Type-A a chest binder. Now everyone is covered.
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I feellike I’ve seen this in some game. Not a binder, but that both types have covered tops and bottoms.
justdaveisfine@piefed.social 2 months ago
As I recall, Fallout does this with the tanktop/shorts combo.
velma@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I feellike I’ve seen this in some game. Not a binder, but that both types have covered tops and bottoms.
Baldur’s Gate maybe?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Dark Souls games maybe?
WR5@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Star Wars: KOTOR does this. I think KOTOR 2 as well but I’m fuzzier on that
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
If femality is stored in the nipples, where are the nipples stored. Maybe the balls I hypothesize.
stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Where does the dick get stored?
toxicbubble@lemmy.world 2 months ago
kinda wish it just folded up inside like a dog
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Reminds me of the trans woman that took her top off at the White House under Biden and MAGA lost their minds.
They don’t recognize her gender as a woman so those should just be man boobs and not a big deal, but they lost their fucking shit.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Meanwhile the shirtless trans dude in the background was practically invisible.
musicjunkie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe it wasn’t all that and simply the fact of a trans woman taking her top off that had people unsettled lol. Male or female pretty sure the vast majority of people would be uncomfortable with that
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Maybe the vast majority of prude Jesus Americans. In more advanced societies and cities it’s a different story.
For instance, it’s perfectly legal for females to walk around topless in Vancouver BC. Seattle and Vancouver both have public beaches where clothing is optional. The only people that care are religious weirdos.
FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I honestly don’t understand why they don’t just label them “masculine” or “feminine”, and you can just add “androgynous” if you want a non-binary option. Is there an element of this that is offensive that I’m missing?
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
People who are never not upset are upset when designers don’t title body types as masculine or feminine and instead use a single character like “A” or “B”.
Like from a design standpoint if you have plans to introduce more body types then lettering them makes a lot of sense but I imagine that’s also one of the first things to get cut from a budget.
FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Okay, that makes sense. I just didn’t know if it was that way to be sensitive of trans people or something.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 months ago
For a lot of people the sex is way more important than the way it is presented. I’m attracted to feminine women and masculine women but I am not attracted to men of any kind. And you can present as androgenous, but if you have lady parts I’m still hot for it.
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
As an unabashed straight dude this is weird.
plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
This is not relevant to a character option naming scheme, though
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Wow you’re like fully unflinchingly sex attracted. It’s kind of magical to observe.
stray@pawb.social 2 months ago
I don’t think it’s offensive by any means, but I think it would be better as a society to get away from labeling things as masculine and feminine in a way that refers back to a traditional gender binary and assumptions. The A/B system serves that, though it fumbles when your character’s pronouns are also determined by this choice.
Personally I think they ought to make two base bodies (small and large) and then add boobs as a toggle for both. And none of this business with separate hair and face options either.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Just call it what it is.
Testosterone based body fat distribution and estrogen based body fat distribution.
Then no one can be angry! After all that’s basically what your picking the standardized body shape caused by fat distribution primarily dictated by the primary sex hormone in the body.
No one can get upset if you just label everything clinically. At least not with out being a dipshit about it.
Also free the god damn nip. ):<
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
There’s always someone offended somewhere.
1984@lemmy.today 2 months ago
So what? The main problem today is that people are offended by anything. Its ridiculous.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I am offended that nobody is offended.
No I’m not
Yes I am
Etc.
Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
How about treants
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I think a lot of game developers just don’t want to deal with the drama that will inevitably happen if they give more than two options.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Feel like I’d also have a problem if I tried to go in public without a top due to having boobs (HRT <3) and I think most people would agree I’m not female.
velma@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Everyone should be able to go topless if they wish. Boobs are not inherently sexual.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
While I agree, there is a connotation in many western countries to consider. You will be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal is sinful. Changing perceptions would be a generational effort and, at least in the US, things are swinging more conservative rather than less.
But, in some parts of Europe, toplessness is accepted on both sides of the aisle, so the world isn’t wholly broken. Asia has smatterings of the same. I support egalitarianism wholly, and it’s deeply frustrating that the human body is, mostly, stigmatized through crystalized, cancerous religious repression
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 months ago
We need to flip the script and make men’s nipples inherently sexual. They don’t even dispense milk (this is a lie but most people don’t know that) they’re just an erogenous zone.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I saw a boob once as a child and I still go to therapy three times a month.
To be clear though, it has nothing to do with me seeing that boob, that would be ridiculous. If society thinks people need to be protected from boobs, it’s society that needs therapy.
wylinka@szmer.info 2 months ago
I think men should cover their chests too.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 months ago
I agree with the first. I think evolution would disagree with the second. The main purpose for partial display (aka cleavage) is enticement for attracting potential mates.
makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There was a protest in front of the Scottish supreme court when the UK had a ruling that declared trans women were men because of their “biological sex”. So a bunch of trans women stood with their tits out and arms painted red since apparently they’re men and that’s OK
Ironically almost all media coverage of the event censored their breasts
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reminds me of the creator of the show Hannibal talking about American censorship. He created a gruesome murder scene where the victim is covered in gore and there’s ritualistic shit everywhere. The only complaint, “we can see the dead woman’s nipple!!”
Death and gore all good, but lord forbid you show a lady nipple.
jorymo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If I remember correctly, it was that someone was horrifically flayed, with their ribcage wrenched open to resemble wings. This was all fine, but you could see their ass, so they had to cover the asscrack with blood. For the children, presumably.
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
This is crazy. If the show is meant to be seen by adults, what does it matter that nudity is shown?
Manticore@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Morally nothing, but legally broadcast law and ERSB ratings are very strict. Like, ‘literally count the number of each cuss’ strict. Ratings aren’t determined by Dennis and Marjorie vibing it out, it’s concluded almost algorithmically based on literal, unambiguous features. Context has very little relevance to the ratings questionnaire.
Even if it is in the spirit of the ratings law, only the letter of the law is enforcable, regardless of context.
It’s probably a good thing for the arts overall, since ratings are so very impactful for reception/profit, I can’t imagine the lawsuits being flung if a studio accused Dennis or Marjorie of bias.
Kaligalis@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t get why they aren’t just making a single body with tons of sliders for all proportions and some “man” and “woman” presets which are just values for those sliders. If it was just one body, all the clothing and animations would only need to be done for one body instead of two.
What am I missing?psycotica0@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Vaguely, because having 2 or 4 models that are static and always look good is actually a lot easier to design and test than a body that can be lots of sizes and shapes. Like, it’s more work to make an outfit 4 times than 1 time, but it’s also kinda easy work. Whereas making an outfit that can be any size and shape and still looks right and natural and doesn’t clip through itself, etc is harder.
But not impossible, so I agree if your game is going to have sliders anyway, and those sliders are going to allow extreme adjustments and not just “length of torso, circumference of boobs”, probably you’re going to have to take a lot of that into account anyway.
Even still, though, having a “bunch” of sliders can sometimes still not be enough to get from one body type to another. Like, the fact that you can’t start with the male body in most of these games and adjust your way to the female one, or vice versa, means there are properties that would need to be made adjustable that currently aren’t, in order to actually get you smoothly from one to the other.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Presets easy, representing all possibilities with sliders hard
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And not just representing them, but making it user-friendly. Women and men have “proportions” in the mind’s eye, and the base models fit those proportions, and then you make the boobs or the dong larger.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I propose this situation be remedied by ‘free the nipple’ protests involving both man boobs and woman boobs.
justastranger@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Alternatively, appease the puritans and give both a sports bra
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
like when some church dudes demanded that the hulk is wearing a bra, because his massive packs would arouse kids xD
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The Germans simply let women take their top off if they want. Seems fair enough.
solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Obvious we need to cover up boy nipples
nexguy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think you meant boy n*****s. Let’s not be NSFW here.
yesman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
People who get vexed over gender in character creation are the same people bound to get really upset when watching a movie trailer.
4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
My character in Cyberpunk 2077 has medium boobs and a massive dong. Haven’t seen that thing much since the character creation step but I appreciate the freedom. My character also may have only worn a fairly slim kevlar vest at one point.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 months ago
Still pissed clothing in that game shrinks your boobs down to medium if they’re large unless you use mods.
Soup@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My guy put on the diving suit and for some reason the one thing that clipped through was his big ol’ bingus.
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I want Type B, but with male nipples.
We maybe also should have body type C, D, E, F, G, H, etc.
Hupf@feddit.org 2 months ago
I want Type B, but with male nipples
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
There is a funny set of furry sculptures in the middle of Golden Gate Park that have very plainly been subjected to modesty rules. The end result of this is that the male subject is only allowed to have nipples when he is wearing pants.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Just make your games first person view only, no third person view. You can be who/what ever you imagine yourself to be. You can be male/female/androgynous or a magic unicorn with rainbow farts and chewing cotton candy cud with the blood of the vanquished dripping from your horn. And it’s all in your head.
wer2@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
You don’t have to pay someone to translate A and B.
:P
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“female presenting nipples”
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 months ago
male
female
male jogging on Laguna Beach in 1982
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Funnily enough, you can’t take the top off either in osrs
plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
They should give both a binder. Keep us guessing
starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 months ago
mature modern games are unapologetic and give you a genital selection too
the question is, are you a penis a or penis b type???
Wren@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I get the modded mega dong.
starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 months ago
tbh baldurs gate and cyberpunk really lacked a proper donger slider
would even be lore accurate with cybernetic dick enhancements in cyberpunk.
BurgerBaron@quokk.au 2 months ago
The werewolf in Skyrim got physics enabled flaccid dong because I wanted to helicopter in VR and thought it only changed humanoid NPC and player character, not monsters. It was a super funny surprise seeing that giant salami flopping around in the scripted scene for whatever quest that was. Good job, dev.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And despite all of that maturity, they still do male-gaze, heteronormative centric design.
Type A halflings (male presenting) are all dumpy and kinda goofy-looking. Type B halflings are all banging smokeshows. Give me the dumpy looking halflings, man.
In Cyberpunk, the camera lingers on nude women, but hides or ignores male nudity, even if the player character is fem presenting and chooses a male partner.
There’s a YouTube video about this, but I can’t find it. I’ll update later if I do (and remember)
starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 months ago
eh, sounds like an accidental noting burger.
these games are taking inclusion steps. but that doesn’t mean they need to stop catering for the majority. its still art made by humans and their own preferences find a way in
Kaligalis@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Of course, they do the male gaze. The majority of the male audience loves it and the majority of the female audience doesn’t care enough to prevent a sale.
It’s a no-brainer to implement male gaze if your target audience includes males. It’s easy to do and yields a lot of goodwill from that part of the audience. Some gacha games make tons of money just doing the male gaze and literally slopping everything else. It’s absurd how well sex sells.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Bitching that sex sells is kinda just objectively stupid.
Doubly so when you cherry pick male centric entertainment and ignore female centric entertainment that does NOTHING but the female gaze.
Different groups of people flock to different entertainment and all of them for all of human history has sold themselves to their audience.
Video games objectively do get played more by men. And more men buy certain types of games over others on top of that
Don’t blame the companies on that one. Blame your fellow consumers.
There are games out there that do sell towards the male attracted audience. Hell I frequently hear straight women and gay men both say that the new god of war games are basically nothing but sex selling to them. For example.
Sabata11792@ani.social 2 months ago
Wheres my cybernetic lady horse cock? Immersion ruined.
flandish@lemmy.world 2 months ago
check your mouth. that’s where i keep mine.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 months ago
I pick the micropenis because I’m short and proud of it.
starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 months ago
flaming crotch man cool
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The dong physics have gotten pretty good