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• public_image_ltd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Sorry to disappoint y’all. This is actually not so dumb. Chemically she makes a buffer solution.

  How a Buffer Solution Works: Example with Baking Soda and Citric Acid

  A buffer solution is a system that resists changes in pH when small amounts of acids or bases are added. Buffers are essential in chemistry and biology because many processes require a stable pH.

  How Buffer Solutions Work

  A buffer usually consists of a weak acid and its corresponding conjugate base (or a weak base and its conjugate acid). When an acidic or basic substance is introduced, the buffer reacts to neutralize the added ions, thus stabilizing the pH.

  • When an acid (H⁺) is added, the buffer’s base component reacts with it, “soaking up” the excess H⁺ ions.
  • When a base (OH⁻) is added, the acid part of the buffer reacts with it, neutralizing the excess OH⁻ ions.

  The ability of a buffer to do this depends on the presence of both a weak acid and its conjugate base in appreciable amounts.

  Buffer Example: Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) and Citric Acid

  Ingredients Involved

  • Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, NaHCO₃): A weak base that can act as a proton acceptor.
  • Citric acid (C₆H₈O₇): A weak acid, commonly found in citrus fruits.

  When these two substances are dissolved in water, they interact according to the following reaction:

  $$ \text{C}_6\text{H}_8\text{O}_7 + \text{NaHCO}_3 \rightarrow \text{C}_6\text{H}_7\text{O}_7^- + \text{Na}^+ + \text{H}_2\text{O} + \text{CO}_2\uparrow $$

  This reaction creates a mixture containing both citric acid (weak acid) and its conjugate base (citrate ion).

  How This Buffer System Functions

  • If an acid is added to the solution (increasing H⁺), the citrate ion (Citrat-Anion) from the reaction will bind to the excess H⁺, lessening the pH shift.
  • If a base is added (increasing OH⁻), the leftover citric acid will release H⁺, which neutralizes the OH⁻, keeping the pH stable.

  Key Point:
  This buffer is only effective within a certain pH range, which in this case is close to the pKa value of citric acid (around 3-7 depending on which proton is being lost, as citric acid is a triprotic acid).

  Summary Table

  Component	Role	Action if acid is added	Action if base is added
  Citric acid (C₆H₈O₇)	Weak acid	Conjugate base absorbs H⁺	Releases more H⁺ to neutralize OH⁻
  Sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO₃)	Weak base (forms buffer)	Provides conjugate base (citrate ion)	Provides weak acid (citric acid)

  This mixture resists pH changes thanks to the reversible interplay between the weak acid (citric acid) and its conjugate base (citrate ion), demonstrating the core principle of buffer solutions.

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  • Dave2@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Stomach acid is much more acidic for this buffer to function and even then you shouldn’t need anything of this sort, well, unless your body fails to regulate it’s own secretions (in that case, go to a doctor for gods sake!) At most this would provide you with some nutrients and minerals.

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  • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Do these kinds of buffers have health benefits? Why is it good to drink water that has buffering capacity?

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    • public_image_ltd@lemmy.world ⁨41⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I have no idea. I am a chemical engineer, this question has to be answered by a biologist or physician.

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    • anon@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨48⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Send me a message too please about the health benefits

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• zout@fedia.io ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Alkaline water won't be alkaline for long after it enters the stomach, so it doesn't really matter

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  • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Alkaline water does have a place for LPR sufferers like me because it deactivates the pepsin that has vaporized and deposited itself in my esophagus and throat which when activated by acidic foods will begin to digest my soft tissues.

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    • Infamousblt@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is true for most fad health things. They come from a place of “this is good for one hyper specific medical outcome” and then extrapolate to “this is good for literally all medical outcomes”

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    • zout@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      TIL, thank you. It indeed makes perfect sense that it would help for this.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Huh, cool.

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    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hey fellow LPR person! Ever looked into baclofen? It’s an oddball, but it helped me and a friend with our LPR.

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  • Klear@quokk.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So I said, blue M&M, red M&M, they all wind up the same colour in the end.

    - Homer Simpson

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Which is reason number two (pun intended) why brown M&Ms are the superior ones.

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    • chgxvjh@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      nationalgeographic.com/…/121011-blue-honey-honeyb…

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  • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Slightly better for the teeth maybe? And maybe a slight benefit if heartburn is an issue.

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    • zout@fedia.io ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Better for the teeth than pH neutral? Nope. For heartburn it might help, but only for a real short time. Non-fat milk would probably be the better choice.

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I believe the purpose is to reduce the overall acidity of your body, which it will do. Your stomach acid will compensate, but it loses acidic compounds in the process to do so. But mixing in other acids does negate at least some of the effectiveness.

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    • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s not debatable.

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    • bjorney@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Stomach acid is like 10,000,000x more acidic than most alkaline water is basic. Dilution is probably doing an order of magnitude more work than the hydroxide here

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It absolutely will not.

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• sakodak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Mixing an acid and a base makes a salt. She’s drinking saltwater.

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• Lojcs@piefed.social ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  I thought it was about the minerals in alkaline water, not the ph itself?

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• 58008@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is there a consensus view on whether or not Gwyneth is a genuine numbnut or is just cynically exploiting people who are?

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  • horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ask her vagina?

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    • quantumcrop@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Instructions unclear, vagina candle stuck in ass.

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• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So should I put AA batteries in my water bottle or not?

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I believe the AAs go in your vagina. She does a lot of vagina stuff, like my ex.

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨16⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      a lot of vagina stuff, like my ex.

      We need more women like this

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    • acme401@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can confirm the vagina stuff with his ex

      She was a freak!

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  • Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    No, AA batteries don’t have enough alkaline flavor, what you need is to throw a car battery into the sea

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• Feyd@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not defending pseudoscientific health regimens, but the acid in “a spritz of lemon” doesn’t neutralize an arbitrary amount of alkalinity

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, but it does reveal a distinct lack of understanding on her her part as to what these pseudoscientific health products even are that are supposedly doing things for her. Like saying “I always drink decaf coffee and pop a shot of 5 hour energy in the morning.” “I drink skim milk with a splash of double cream.” “I love honey on my keto toast.” Like, even if it’s not enough acidity to completely negate the alkalinity, it’s literally antithetical to the supposed goal.

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    • Arcka@midwest.social ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      All the posts advocating for combining baking soda and vinegar for cleaning.

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  • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think it was Angela Collier that did a pretty basic test with a common store bought alkaline water, a lemon and some test strips. The water doesn’t start very alkaline at all.

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    • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      She did the math (with some assumptions), but basically 0.25 mL of lemon juice will turn 500 mL of alkaline water into neutral water:

      Image This is in the video at 13:16.

      The reason is that pH is a logarithmic scale. Alkaline water has a pH of about 8, whereas lemon acid is at 2. That means lemon acid has 1,000,000 times more hydrogen atoms.
      Lemon juice isn’t pure lemon acid, so that’s why you do still need 0.25 mL (rather than just a millionth of 500 mL).

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    • tburkhol@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That girl can rant. Love her work, but always watch it at 2x to maximize the frustrated-teacher vibe.

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    • inconel@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Even regular neutral water shift to slightly acidic (5.6) as long as it have contact to air CO2. Would be interesting to know how long those store bought alkaline water becomes base or acidic.

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  • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    True, but your body will not enjoy water that’s very alkaline, so there’s a chance it’s sufficient since lemon is pretty acidic.

    Plus, if the whole point of it is to be alkaline, why directly counter that with what you add?

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    • Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The body doesn’t care much about alkaline water, since the stomach acid is so acidic that it will easily overpower it…

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• MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Such a stupid cunt snake oil salesperson.

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  • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can you say that again without the misogyny?

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    • JargonWagon@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Right? What the fuck is with the comments in this.

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean salesperson is gender neutral and stupid cunt is pretty gender neutral too, even if it originally referred to female genitalia. Somehow genitalia based insults have become gender neutral, or some of them at least.

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      She’s a rotten cunt, scam artist. Don’t care how you label it.

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  • muhyb@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s the pH of snake oil?

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    • _edge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      With or without lemon slice?

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe the same as her “Goop”.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or is she a stupid snake cunt oil salesperson?

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hmm, does “Goop” sell Cunt oil?

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    • Jerkface@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Okay, let’s see … stupid cunt sales oil snakeperson?

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• Plurrbear@lemmy.world ⁨54⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  GOOP = What your brain is made of if you support or buy these “products”.

  She’s just another GRIFTER!

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• ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Just an aside, you can make Alkaline lemon water.

  It do it:

  1. Peel a lemon using a vegetable peeler
  2. Squeeze the bits of peel (pith side up) into a glass or bottle. This allows you to express the oils from the peel.
  3. Add your Alkaline water to the Glass, the oils will rise to the top, some of it (very little as oils are hydrophobic) will mix with the water, giving it a lemon flavor similar to lacroix.

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• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I dont think most people that specifically purchase it know what alkaline water is.

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  • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apparently it works better than rechargable water.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Call me old-fashioned, but if it doesn’t run on diesel, I’m not drinking it!

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  • SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Isn’t that the water that’s inside my Alkaline batteries? It must be good to energize the body.

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    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Drinking right from the battery tastes so much better.

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• FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Paltrow is full of shit broadly speaking of course, but couldn't she accidentally be onto something here: A ph neutral drink would be better for your teeth than one that's too acidic or basic.

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So, like plain water, then?

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    • lividweasel@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Influencers discover this surprising health hack: drinking ‘raw’ water”

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    • Venat0r@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      yeah but if you want lemon flavoured water…

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  • Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The level of pH difference we’re talking about here is negligible. You’re constantly bathing your teeth in your (slightly acidic) spit and swallowing your spit all the time, the very few moments your teeth come into contact with slightly more alkaline water have no lasting influence. Plain tap-water (also slightly alkaline with a pH of ~7.5 in most of the US) would have the very same effect.

    Brushing your teeth after a meal and abstaining from sugary drinks is where the difference is at, Everything else is talking about if Mount Everest is higher when you place a grain of sand on top… technically yes, but no.

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  • huf@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    so… just drink water?

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• LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unrelated but they put out water at my work that’s like just tap water sitting in a dispenser that they’ll sometimes slice like, a couple oranges or lemons or cucumbers into. It adds no flavor and just wastes the fruit or cucumbers

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  • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve tasted cucumber water and can definitely taste the cucumber (I also drink unsweetened seltzers). I wonder why theirs isn’t working.

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  • gobble_ghoul@hexbear.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe they’re just skimping on it. Cucumber water is pretty good with a couple slices per glass.

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• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “You know what would make this poison really pop? A fistful of active charcoal and prompt medical treatment!”

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• half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  because the body must “grip” the egg to keep it inside the vagina, sellers claim jade egg use also strengthens vaginal muscles.

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• TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Image

  Is called a bird

  Sells vagina eggs

  #Girlboss

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• plinky@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  enamel must be disciplined

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  • huf@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    getyarn.io/…/e129c28a-f765-4a8e-8761-aff15c19e944

    this is a harkonnen enamel!

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• fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I like it too. It’s the best.

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• FuckyWucky@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s the net pH after mixing a glass of alkaline water and a ‘spritz of lemon’ thinking-about-it

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  • chgxvjh@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You might still end up with some salts in solution that can act as a buffer.

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• Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Wouldn’t this just to counteract some of the acidity in the lemon and so it has extra minerals? Doesn’t seem that stupid.

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  • 7bicycles@hexbear.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just seems pointless. If you like less acidic taste just use less lemon juice. Nobody is Vitamin C deficient unless they’re dirt poor or have some other health stuff going on

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• expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  they claim lemon juice metabolize into mostly alkaline byproduct during digestion, but could be bs or exaggeration

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  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, but it’s not digestion because obviously your body controls it’s own pH. It’s from the transition from alchemy to chemistry. If you burn things to ashes and then dissolve the ashes in water is the result acid or alkaline (I guess it could be neutral but it doesn’t seem like that’s an option to them). The only foods that are actually alkaline is eggs. And lutefisk and other things that you add lye or baking soda to.

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Look, only a basic bitch drinks Alkaline water without a like acid.

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• moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I bet he heard it from that one video by angela collier

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• bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I know the pH difference is meaningless, but I enjoy the crispness.

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