Credibly_Human
@Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 2 days ago:
Interesting that when shown to be wrong, you now simply want to pretend you were right and leave the conversation.
Thats how stubborn gate keeping views typically work isn’t it. The belief comes first, and the reasons to back it up dead last.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 3 days ago:
Tell me you’ve never tried to code a complex interactive experience without telling me you’ve never tried to code a complex interactive experience.
I actually have, and have worked on multi person teams doing such.
Its why this line of argument rings so hollow.
Even if I didn’t, I could obviously point to the many games that do have levels of granularity like this, and are completely successful at it.
If you think it’s so easy to take every element of a highly complex, performance sensitive program and make it possible to pick and choose which ones you experience without breaking the whole experience or turning a 1 year project into a 10 year project, go ahead and try.
See, this is what is called the most blatant strawman argument I have ever seen. It is so obviously so far removed from anything I’ve suggested its laughable on its face.
Do you also ask movie directors to make their movies so that when you hit ‘skip scene’ because you don’t like the way the scene looks, it still makes a good movie?
Yet another nonsensical analogy for obvious reasons. You wouldn’t need this obviously badly fitting analogies if your POV had merit.
What movies don’t let you skip past some scenes based on what you’d like? I very frequently speed up/skip parts in movies that move too slow, or even rewatch parts that I miss. Its most definitely an additive part of the experience.
That’s just your failure to understand there are more kinds of museum than a history museum.
All museums do what I am talking about. Your pedantry about it being more than history does not at all change the merit of the point made.
The analogy is a failure, to be sure, but only because I hadn’t considered the possibility you wouldn’t have that piece of common knowledge. Now that you do have that knowledge, though, if you can’t see the analogy, that’s on you.
Except that the literal only thing you could point out that was wrong with my critcism of it, was pedantic and had no effect on the effectiveness of the point.
Being stubborn is a virtue to you I suppose.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 3 days ago:
The differences lie only in the physical/resource limitations each has for the kinds of experiences they can include.
Not only is this wrong, but it’s also nonsensical. It is nonsensical because these are massive elements of each experience and why accommodating preferences in one is far easier than the other. Its also wrong because most museum experiences with interaction absolutely have the option to skip parts of said interactions.
The other reason this is wrong, is that these are certainly not the only areas differences lie in, as museums aim to preserve history, and are therefore locked in content wise from that perspective, what with the physical artifacts and care for that. Games are not at all that.
The whole analogy is terrible.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 3 days ago:
This is such a ridiculously bad faith analogy I feel like it has to be on purpose
- Comment on Obama's got jokes 3 days ago:
No. No I did not.
To use only that excerpt and ignore that the primary point was that this was harm reduction vs prior actions is to completely misrepresent the point.
I was clear in that the point was solely about the criticism being in the technology choice, not the foreign policy.
- Comment on Obama's got jokes 3 days ago:
To be so unwilling to see nuance, that you morphed my opinion into something completely different than what I said, and assumed I fit in your favourite political punching bag box is a problem.
- Comment on Obama's got jokes 4 days ago:
Obama has launched more drone strikes than any other Peace-Prize winner in history.
This, of all the things to be critrical of, isnt it (the drone part).
Less invasive, less troops on the ground, more precise strikes than traditional bombings. Things don’t exisr in a vacuums. Drones were a W.
He’s certainly not the most controversial Nobel winner, but his award was embarrassing in the sense that European intelligentsia was congratulating backward America for electing a black President.
This hints something about you that you think it was him being black and not him not being bush after bush, and being charming.
- Comment on Obama's got jokes 4 days ago:
I think the problem is in the value you’re attributing to a reward that is the function of a terrible dead rich guys will.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
A negligible downgrade in visual fidelity and a few shimmers for more performance.
- Comment on Libraries are cool 4 days ago:
Sure, but on a platform with this many leftists, it wouldn’t be upvoted if the message communicated wasn’t this. They also almost certainly would not expect it to be a successful comment if this wasn’t their intention as well.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
For many games, this would turn an interactive part of the game which is normally followed by an uninteractive cutscene into an uninteractive cutscene immediately followed by another uninteractive cutscene. Players that disable QTEs could easily be sitting through very long stretches of uninteractive parts of the game instead of interacting with the game, leading to those players complaining about long cutscenes since they usually completely forget they disabled QTEs.
This is such a bizzare and contrived example.
Firstly, because the idea that QTE’s are anything but fill in the situation you’ve described is ridiculous. Secondly, because it is literally preference based (for instance, I would have loved to just eliminated QTEs completely from Dispatch), and lastly, because your made up result could easily instead just be that they recieve rave reviews for how accessible their game is and how freeing it is to have the ability to play how you want to play.
If someone hates QTEs, it would be better for them not to play the game at all than to play without them.
This is only true to someone who is pretentious and gatekeepy about what they feel other people should enjoy. Why do you have such strong opinions about how other people should live their lives?
As a player, you pay more attention and keep your controller ready because at any moment you could be hit with a QTE and you want to be ready for that.
Not everyone likes or wants that. I can personally say I can’t recall a time where QTEs added to a game experience, and in games where I’ve modded out similar, they played much better to me. Thats the big important thing; to me. You obviously have tremendous trouble imagining anyone else having a different felt experience than you do.
Not every game is made for every person. And thats okay, thats good even.
This is a bullshit shield from criticism. A game having a feature I don’t like doesn’t mean I’m not the audience for said game, it just means the game is less enjoyable for me.
The idea that no game should be criticized or offer options, and instead people should just never play any game that isn’t perfectly suited to them is obviously absurd but the clear logical conclusion from your nonsensical advice here.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
Saying you can just set a variable from “true to false” is so laughably misunderstanding what goes into software development much less game development that it sounds entitled.
This is an attempt to sound smart that falls flat. The idea that there are no configuration settings that are simply inaccessible to users which are boolean values is laughably naive and provably wrong in many games.
What gameplay mechanics are you even saying should be configurable? All of them? Just turn off the combat in a fighting game? At what point is a gameplay mechanic integral to the genre/experience? And who is the person or persons that decide?
This isn’t an argument, its you saying that without being hyper specific, and laying out a detailed rule book for hypothetical future games, youll arbitrarily decide to assume the most irrational conclusion so that you can continue to rage and gate keep.
Developers should be free to create what they want, and the end user is free to mod it however they want. That includes, for the devs, not purposefully obfuscating things so that modding is more diffcult.
This is a strawman argument, as no one in this thread is restricting any developers ability to do anything. It is quite literally a wishlist thread. This “criticism” could literally be applied to anything in this thread. Its invalid.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
but you’re just whining because every moment isn’t custom built to keep up with your personal ADHD/hedonic treadmill.
This is such a weirdly hostile, assumptive and gatekeepy sentiment.
The point of a game isn’t to just give you a blowjob from launch to credits. If that’s what you’re looking for, you’re looking in the wrong place.
Your mentality of “this is not what the point of a game is” is especially ridiculous because if a game was that, what I’m advocating for would give you the ability to make it what you want instead.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
This is exactly it. I don’t understand why people would want to waste any time doing things they don’t want to do vs things they want to do when playing games. The point is fun, whatever that means to the individual.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
Then just don’t play that game or use cheats (if its a singleplayer game)?
Alternatively, the devs could just have those options, as some games do, and everyone is happy.
You have such a weird gate keeper take here.
This is a wishlist. No one is forced to do anything by me saying this is my preference.
You are stanning for a nonexistent idea of a game. This is an unbelievable level of gatekeeping.
- Comment on Libraries are cool 4 days ago:
I believe they are speaking in jest, hence the comical premise and imagery which is a reversal of a common meme used to criticize capitalism.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
I disagree because it solely approaches games as some sort of “electronic commodity” and outright despises a development group’s artistry.
This is meaningless pretentious gibberish. It’s like saying that watching movie on an unintended device is disrespecting the playwright.
Why should your desire to put entertaining past times on a pedestal restrict what I should be able to do.
If you feel that way, then play games as they intend. There is no reason to be against other people having an option just because you don’t like it.
That opinion is like saying “books should be made in a way that allows users to change the story whenever and however they want.” It is something you can do but there’s no imperative to cater to it.
This makes no sense at all as an analogy. Books don’t run on game engines and don’t have recycled bits of logic that game mechanics are comprised of that can be mass changed to great effect. The feature you’re describing would require the equivalent of writing the book a million times over. The changes Im describing are often accomplished on day one by modders, or just included by the developers as a quality of life feature set.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
don’t know how many, if any, settings matching the true/false + 1 line of code restraints even exist.
Absolutely. For example, turning off running out of stamina, removing item loss, turning off minigames is close.
There are tons. Atomfall has a ton of options that are similarly simple.
If you can change a setting, even if it’s a binary choice, someone had to think about, implement and test everything pertaining to these choices.
Nah. Some choices just arent that complicated. I think you’re over complicating it. We can especially see that this is true in many games where things are modded in. Like in Cyberpunk, just not having to play the minigames is a better experience imo. Like its slightly more than the one line hyperbole, but not much.
Depending on what kind of mechanic we’re talking about and how deeply integrated into the rest of the game this mechanic is, that could be a big task.
I feel like you’re getting away from the spirit of my comment here/getting carried away with finding exceptions and technicalities to this thread about no game in particular and hypothetical wishlists of features.
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
???
Why have you included ray tracing and DLSS among the actual blur causers?
- Comment on Settings you believe ANY game should have? (This is me advocating for a restart/reboot button on ALL games) 4 days ago:
Gameplay settings menus that allow you to turn off gameplay mechanisms you simply don’t enjoy, or tune them.
I’m talking about ones that are like one line of code being set to true instead of false etc. That type of thing.
Basically things like that and the Atomfall gameplay/difficulty settings menu
I don’t give a fuck if some pretentious asses “artistic vision” requires the player to backtrack half way across a level on every death or thinks a shitty minigame should be played no less than 153 times every play through. I want to be able to just turn off the unfun shit, and leave on the fun shit.
This is a game. I don’t care if the developer thinks X Y or Z adds to the experience. If I don’t, within reason I should just be able to turn it off.
- Comment on 4 days ago:
but I should be allowed to do what I want on my system if I have the know how, and I’m okay with danger style messages to let me know I’m about to do something potentially dangerous, but I’m against being forbidden from uninstalling X (which is the short version of what Linus did).
I’m not in favour of losing autonomy. Not what I was trying to say. Im just saying that if you fuck up, you should be able to unfuck up reasonably. With linux as it is most of the time, you could get got with a typo.
I also agree that this fault is mostly there because of an error, but I think the point is kinda that, if it wasn’t that it’d be something else eventually. Thats just how it is. Its not to blame any developers as I completely understand their constraints, goals and incentives, but its just a reality, and one I think Valve is poised to help with tremendously given than they are a big company whose usability goals are somewhat aligned now.
Also I know it’s not for most users, but you might be interested in checking out NixOS which allows you to rollback almost anything, so while not a solution for the majority of people if this is something you have problems with and have the time and energy to learn Nix language it’s a great distro for having a system that’s almost impossible to break.
I was quite interested in NIX, but it seemed at the time I was using linux as a daily that it would be a rough ride to use as a desktop computer/seemed more optimized for use as a server. I do have plans to use a spare machine in such a capacity, so I would say maybe, but then their association with Anduril is pretty fucking disgusting and kinda left a really bad taste in my mouth.
Anyhow, I think that really, just something like BTRFS snapshots are probably good enough for 9.9/10 fuck ups one might face where they want an emergency undo button (If BTRFS fixed raid 6 write hole issues I would be soo fucking happy btw).
I also obviously given the past tense kinda gave up on the linux daily because well, games, and its like, why am I fighting my computer. This is not a hill to die on. Maybe later or maybe for a secondary build, but given I just got a 5090 and wanted to fuck around with it, I just set the whole idea aside.
- Comment on 5 days ago:
I agree that it wasn’t Linus fault, but I think that most users would stop at that message, he didn’t because he thinks he knows what he’s doing, but he doesn’t, he’s in that middle ground where he knows enough to be confidently wrong.
This is the part I disagree with.
Even with my background as stated, similar things have happened to me over time with weird dependency nonsense with what should have been simple updates, not even installs. The types of things you just run, because you expect them to be tested as they are official updates by the team behind the OS.
Luckily Tumbleweed Snapper snapshots saved me, but if I wasn’t savvy, such experiences, while not normal, being semi annual or annual occurrences would absolutely break me as a user. In speaking with other users in relevant channels, I ascertain that my experiences aren’t super uncommon, but it really did hammer home a point: People deep into linux really don’t get how much they’ve learned to deal with and learned how to deal with.
I think people have a hard time thinking that something that happened so casually and over time for them could be challenging, or imagining just how far they themselves had come or that they themselves are significantly different to the average user.
I know the whole idea and how its used in pop culture is pretty much just pop science, but I think reverse dunning kruger is absolutely a good way to describe this. People often develop competencies, and then just believe that they surely can’t be that much more competent at whatever thing than the average person, leading them to be perplexed when said thing is indeed challenging for others.
Let me ask you, how would you have given that message in a way that would make people stop?, remember that the message is valid, the bug was installing steam doing that.
I don’t think there is any problem with the wording. I think there is a problem with the UX. There is a big problem with the way package managers in linux work and the way they share dependencies/can easily get into dependency hell.
I think Flatpaks and to a lesser extent Snaps and even lesser, Appimages, are much more sane/user friendly ways to install applications on linux and so I don’t think there was anything wrong with the message, but the situations that lead to that message being anything a regular user would ever need to see on any semi regular basis.
Really, and this is the hottest take there might be about linux and user adoption, one of the biggest problems with linux, is that there are no nannies, and that the core users right now not only (claim to) like it that way, but are actively hostile to nanny features.
I think computers should be forgiving. You should be able to make a mistake as a user, and quickly correct it. You shouldn’t semi regularly need to go into an environment where typing something incorrectly could result in your machine being out of commission until you resolve said problem (part of why snapshots should be part of every computing experience… Windows included…)
- Comment on FACTS 5 days ago:
Being gay is being gay, woman, child!
These things that man fuck and own!
Being fucked and owned is weak!
Being weak is not strong man!
I truly think so many people in the world follow this logic, and so many utterly stupid points of view lead back to these core belief systems.
- Comment on 5 days ago:
It wasn’t a standard accept/continue/yes prompt,
Doesn’t matter. This is an opinion that is 100% formed in an echo chamber where you are far removed from what a regular user would think going through this process. All of these prompts you think look different, to a normal person might as well be literally exactly the same. “I don’t know what I am doing, but the program says to do the next thing, with some warning that probably doesnt matter because I’m not doing something hard or critically important”.
Of note:
WARNING The following essential packages will be removed. This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you’re doing!
That is a message that would not impede a regular user at all, or would completely stop them from using the OS.
They’re trying to install steam. Why would they have any reason to believe that whatever programs are mentioned matter, or think that this message matters when they’re doing something that is in theory extremely simple?
Plus most users wouldn’t need to use the terminal, he just happened to use the distro during the brief window that that bug existed.
How does this negate the fact that the actions taken were reasonable and absolutely not the users fault? In fact, the fact that this was fixed and treated so urgently betrays what a flaw it was.
As a Linux enthusiast I can definitely tell you I never encourage people to just type words in the magic box and get it over with, and always tell them to understand what they’re typing.
Lets for the sake of not stating what I actually assume to be true take your word at face value.
What you recommend is simply incompatible with the majority of people. They don’t have the time or effort to devote into actually learning as much as you’d need to learn for this to actually be useful advice.
A great amount of information must be completely skipped over and ignored to be proficient in a reasonable amount of time.
I’ve used Linux at multiple jobs, and used it as my main desktop OS for more than a year. I know this to be true. For the average person to follow your advice, they’d need to have a firm grasp of BASH. Expecting people to learn even one scripting language, especially an old esoteric one with many gotchas and vestiges of its time is an absurd ask, so of course no one would listen to your advice as it is utterly unreasonable on its face, and completely incompatible with the level of user adoption people hope for.
So then, there is the other advice, from people who are also elitists, but in a different way. They believe these people must be stupid to not figure out the problems on their own, and casually tell them to just RTFM or use X, Y or Z script with reckless abandon.
Neither of these lead to anything remotely resembling the ease of use of operating systems these users will have come from, no matter how much Linux enthusiasts insist their weird edge cases where they feel those OSes are inferior mean that somehow, magically their opinions apply to the users they are appealing to.
I have a lot more to say honestly, as I have certainly thought about this a lot, but by this point and given the excerpt I am replying to, I’ve learned to never expect good faith discussion, so I’m just limiting my losses by stopping here as I expect toxic positivity as a response.
- Comment on Anon finds a bot 6 days ago:
Well, until you start following people you like the content of, of course no algorithm will have good suggestions for you, so youll get a generic one hoping that you like something eventually and thus it can fine tune.
- Comment on 6 days ago:
You are very far removed from a normal user then.
Most people rarely read warnings or signs. They’re used to needing to just click accept and move on. More than that, their entire experience thus far will have trained them to just type in the magic command line words and get it over with. This is what linux enthusiasts beat into them while pretending everything is a cake walk. “Don’t trust anything” while simultaneously telling them to use this and that script, and copy this and that text into the terminal. Its not at all a wonder to imagine that behaviour.
- Comment on 6 days ago:
The final experience have to take into account all of that.
Sure it does, but that doesnt mean that you can’t make a comparison.
all those features may hold higher value than more ram.
The VRAM may actually be a deal breaker if you look at the trend of current games and how many games have problems with even modest settings especially at higher resolutions like they’ve said this will support.
It’s like comparing two cars looking only at the engine. Discarding of one has AC and the others don’t.
Not at all. Its comparing the engines understanding that they are obviously different, but selectively talking about one aspect. You can bring up the other aspects but its not unfair to make the comparison.
Maybe for a thinkerer that could be a sensible comparison but for a non thinkerer like myself now (I used to be) those features holds a lot of value.
This has nothing to do with tinkering and everything to do with if this can deliver a good value for money for any sizeable target market.
If it only applies to a small niche, it can’t be a successful product and wont do what they want it to do.
If it can’t adequately pass the baseline, its out of steam before the starter gun fires.
- Comment on 6 days ago:
Wait did you seriously put effort into searching for my posts just to try and be right?
Its always amazing when people act like less than 15 seconds of effort is a monumental amount of when things arent going their way to try to attack someone for attempting to verify their claims.
Literally 2 searches, but apparently thats big effort to you. You spent more time typing out this comment.
it was like a week ago in a circlejerking thread and I got downvoted because it was a circlejerk
You said something not jerking in a thread that was openly for jerking, that also is not possible to find, and this proves that reddit has an unreasonable opinion on this box.
This all sounds ridiculous and now I just don’t believe you at all, especially with the ridiculous jump to hostility.
- Comment on Anon finds a bot 1 week ago:
Didn’t people leave it for BlueSky?
A small number of people yes, but most influencers remain on Twitter or use both.
I should also point out that BlueSky is backed by crypto bros and they’ve never had any intentions of improving anything the way the people who want to move moved things.
They ran on the idea of decentralization but ultimately BlueSky is, in practice, completely centralized and its not possible to decentralize it. You can run your own instance, but that would just be a separate centralized instance as opposed to any sort of meaningful federation.
I can’t figure out how to use BlueSky… could never get Twitter to work either, maybe it’s too Gen Z for my Millenial ass?
I hate to say it but… that has nothing to do with age, because there are old people on either. Its just a microblog platform like any other microblog platform.
- Comment on Valve Addresses Steam Machine Anti-Cheat Concerns, Says It's Working Towards Support 1 week ago:
It has the power supply internally so its definitely AC. It almost certainly just uses a galvanically isolated supply which is why it doesnt need a ground.