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• stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The inexorable rise of identity condiments has led to hard times for the most American of foodstuffs. And that’s a shame.

  My son Jake, who’s 25, eats mayo. He’s a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He’s a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise.

  newer generations are refusing to meekly fall in line with a culinary heritage that never was theirs. Instead, they’re gobbling up kefir and ajvar and chimichurri and gochujang again.

  Red Robin launched a vegan burger. You don’t put mayo on a vegan burger.

  McDonald’s has debuted a Signature Sriracha Burger, joining KFC, Wendy’s, and Subway in signing on to the sizzling Thai sauce’s moment in the sun. You didn’t see Huy Fong Foods start a schmear campaign against the cultural appropriation of that.

  Some experts say the dislike springs from the fact that mayo jiggles. […] This is bullshit. This attitude comes to you from young people who willingly slurp down eight kazillion kinds of yogurt, not to mention raw fish and pork belly and, yo, detergent pods, so don’t talk to me about mayonnaise. The only reason for this raging mayophobia is a generation’s gut-level renouncement of the Greatest Generation’s condiment of choice.

  Besides, I’ve got news: That aioli you’re all so fond of? I hate to break it to you, but that’s just mayonnaise.

  Sandy Hingston sounds mad.

  Also what? Mayo is still super popular, so what is she even on about? It’s she hamming this up because she feels like this is what’s necessary to make it in journalism these days?

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Systemic issue in journalism. The actual reporting breaks down to a one liner; “mayonaise less popular with younger generations, increasingly diverse choice of condiments instead”, but that doesn’t generate revenue

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    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s the same issue for recipe blogs. Everyone hates all the filler, they just want the recipe. But having a page with just a recipe does not jive with search engines so people will never see your blog unless you write the filler.

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    • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It should be, “mayo like all foods in younger generations isn’t as popular because their palates haven’t gotten to that point yet”.

      This is the level of journalism now… complete shit. You’re tastes change over time…so this generation magically hates mayo now? Might as well say this new generation hates their greens.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sorry, “identity condiments”? The fuck?

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  • falseWhite@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise.

    Naturally? Is it some feminist thing to loathe mayo? Why?

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    • Tudsamfa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because it’s hens and cows that are farmed for their products, veganism is a feminist issue.

      Feminism is notoriously concerned with chromosomes rather than personhood. /s

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    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because mayo is strongly associated with white people and especially conservatives. There’s the whole meme about not eating any food spicier than mayo.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because mayonnaise looks like and is sometimes associated with cum and patriarchy. Is my guess.

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Guy hadn’t had real aioli. Doesn’t even know what aioli is.

    Name literally means “garlic and oil” because those are the only two ingredients you need for it.

    It’s very easy to make at home; start with a few toes of garlic and a table spoon on olive oil. Crush and mush them together till it seems like the oil disappeared. Then add another tablespoon of olive oil and repeat till you have this nice, white looking condiment.

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    • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eh easy yes, fast not at all. I only make it for my one other X’er friend who hates, hates, hates may exactly because of Hellmann’s. It traumatized him as a child.

      Kenji’s mayo recipe I make literally every week. Easy and fast. Said friend will not even look at it.

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  • zakobjoa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This sounds like a bit. Seriously, how do you hit every culture war talking point but make it about mayonnaise? No one has strong feelings about mayonnaise, Sandy. Only you.

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  • GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s like traditional media figured out in 2016 Boomer ragebait is the only thing they know how to do anymore, and just keep doing that when they’re out of ideas.

    Article tl;dr “Kids today are traitors to the nation because they aren’t Stephen Miller, drinking mayonnaise by the gallon, because it’s not threatening to people with fragile egos and no sense of curiosity.”

    Plus, trashing ajvar and chimichuri? How bold of you, Sandy. How courageous to turn up your nose at flavors that you were not exposed to in some midwest surbabn bubble. When you die and your spirit is flung into the void between lives, where you learn how you’ll be reincarnated as a racoon for 20 lifetimes because of the karma you accrued just from penning this single article, I hope the spirits of your Lithuanian parents remind you that judgement like this poisons the soul slightly more than mayonnaise does.

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      2016? Writers complaining about the youth misbehaving is as old as writing itself.

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  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That read like a shit post. Does Jake drink mayo straight from Sandy’s tit still? Cause something ain’t right there

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  • Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait until she hears about sriracha mayo.

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  • entwine@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure that’s all tongue-in-cheek. Giving people the benefit of the doubt is a good default setting.

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• Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Miracle whip is far worse

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is, and we probably did kill that one but they never wanna give us credit for the good we do

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  • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s what I grew up on, unfortunately, so everything else tasted weird.

    But now I use Kewpie (Japanese brand) and it’s way better.

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s another divide to stop us uniting

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  • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It comes back everytime there is a lul in the political discourse.

    Gotta keep the olds against the youths

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  • MourningDove@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yup.

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why? Are you one of those lazy millennials?!

    (I’m a millennial btw, and I agree that this stuff is really dumb)

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• xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What does Hellman’s have to do with mayonnaise though? That nitrogen-pumped piss is mayo the same way those American individually wrapped slices of milk-plastic is ‘cheese’.

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  • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m going to continue to die on this hill: American cheese slices typically have cheddar cheese as the very first ingredient. They are made of real cheese, dairy, and an emulsifier. Basically think of a cheese sauce with a higher melt temp but nobody seems to claim fondue is fake cheese.

    Are they good though? That’s subjective, I think they go great on burgers and ramen. Are they plastic or use fake cheese? No. If you want to be accurate while high horsing about it you could call them watered down congealed cheese though

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    • Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      but nobody seems to claim fondue is fake cheese

      Fondue is literally just shredded cheese. The typical Swiss fondue, la moitié-moitié (half half) is 50% Gruyère and 50% Vacherin + a little bit of cornflour if it’s an industrial one (otherwise it’s only cheese and you add cornflour if you want).

      Other types are just different cheeses, from a single one up to a mixe of 3, varying from regional preferences.

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    • Clam_Cathedral@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It would probably get much less hate if it was just called “Burger Cheese”

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Kraft Singles literally aren’t cheese though. Go back and read the label. They’re not allowed to call it cheese.

      It gives American cheese a bad name as there are some great deli cheeses here that are 10000x better than Kraft

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then die lonely.

      It’s not worth fighting someone over fake garbage. At least you’re on a hill, away from where I’m enjoying real cheese.

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    • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      but nobody seems to claim fondue is fake cheese.

      Afaik you make fondue from cheese. You put the different kinds of cheese in and melt them with some wine. That’s way closer to just melted cheese than whatever american cheese is

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    • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are not, objectively good, but they are very useful as an emulsifier for cheese sauces. One kraft slice can emulsify a liter or more.

      That said, there is something nostalgic about a grilled cheese using cheap American white bread and Kraft slices.

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    • tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the individually wrapped ones are an ecological nightmare.

      But you also have to buy according to your usage pattern. I very rarely use these cheese slices. And the only alternative to the individually wrapped ones here is a pack of ~12. They usually go bad in my fridge before I could use more than 3-4 slices. The individually wrapped ones hold up much longer.

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are they good though?

      Really depends on the brand. Some of them really make a burger pop with a rich cheddar flavor and creamy texture.

      That’s a good point about the plastic waste in your edit though. I don’t eat a lot of cheese because I try to limit animal products, but I feel like they’re usually separated with wax paper here. I’m told there are very high taxes on plastic packaging for the manufacturer.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t find any reference to nitrogen used in Herman’s mayonnaise. Do you perhaps mean that they fill the airspace at the top of the jar with nitrogen to displace oxygen and increase shelf-life? I believe that’s a very safe and common practice in food packaging.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Noooo! Nitrogen is poison! If you breathe pure nitrogen, you’ll die!

      inb4 libtard scientists saying “hurr durr air is 70% nitrogen” yeah right LIARS

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    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are just ignorant and mouthing off.

      MERICAN FOOD BAD. AMERICAN CHEESE NOT REAL 🙄

      Anyone, who says American cheese isn’t real probably can’t explain what an emulsifier is.

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    • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, not at all. That I’d have no issue with. Now, Hellman’s makes a number of different variants IIRC, and I can’t tell you which particular one this was as I haven’t bought it since, but: I mean ‘pumped’ as in ‘foamy’ or perhaps a better term would be ‘areated’. Filled with visible bubbles of some gas - I don’t actually know whether it was nitrogen or something else, but nitrogen would make sense due to the same reasons you pointed out. I suspect it was done as a shrinkflation strategy to sell the same apparent volume of product, whilst saving on material production inputs. It certainly did nothing beneficial for the texture. I don’t really want my “mayonnaise” to feel like poorly whipped cream.

      I’ve seen the same thing done for some cream cheeses, and likely for the same reason. I don’t buy those more than once either.

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  • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Pasteurized prepared cheese product”

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    same way those American individually wrapped slices of milk-plastic is ‘cheese’.

    I hate that I feel the need to chime in every time I see this, but no. Kraft Singles are not only garbage food, they’re literally not allowed to call it cheese.

    There are some great American cheeses, especially for sandwiches. I really like Cooper Sharp.

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  • MycelialMass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What mayo brand do you prefer?

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    • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      www.zaansemayonaise.nl

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    • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      obscure brand you’ve probably never heard of

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    • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I usually make my own. Graasten’s is pretty decent.

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    • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Heinz’s “seriously good”

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• resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most of those are fine with me tbh

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Millennial killed charl…

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What? Mayonnaise is absolutely still a thing.

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  • pir8t0x@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For real

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  • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah I dunno. Miracle whip is gross as fuck.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No idea what that is, but the picture is very much of Hellman’s mayonnaise, which is the most mayonnaise of all the mayonnaises

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    • artichokecustard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s salad cream

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• robocall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mayonnaise is food lube

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  • ngdev@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    it also creates a hydrophobic layer on bread so you can have a moist sandwich and not have it drown the breas

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• st3ph3n@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What is with this constant narrative of us millennials killing shit?

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  • LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Millennials are brutal murderers

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not the generations before them.

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• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anyone else try the plant based mayo? It’s indistinguishable, it’s great

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  • Pulptastic@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mayo is 99% plant based already. Just a little egg yolk to act as a surfactant.

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, mostly oil. I switched to chutney/pickle for sandwiches, much lower kcal per spoonful and the fruit/veg should add some actual nutrition too. Would like to make my own more too, especially ones without sugar and just preserved with vinegar. Don’t have much success looking for recipes, maybe I need to use different terms? Something like branstons pickle and then variations that could work too.

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    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      70% fat and 5% yolk according to law

      vrt.be/…/belgian_governmentworkingonnewmayonnaise…

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  • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah I’ve been trying the avocado oil ones and I can’t notice any difference

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• Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Enter the “aioli.”

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  • bufalo1973@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But the real one or the “ajonesa”?

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• tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One word: Kewpie

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  • 0tan0d@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thought it was going to be: Homemade

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t that some kind of fish monster.

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m a simple woman, I love me some mayo

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Millenials didnt kill mayonnaise… We might have killed Miracle Whip, but even Miracle Whip would famously claim it isn’t mayonnaise.

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• fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s not mayonnaise. Stop calling it mayonnaise.

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  White people are finally starting to catch on that food is supposed to taste good, leave mayo and ketchup in the past.

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• daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mayo is fucking disgusting. I don’t want a fucking cum sandwich.

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• Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fake news… mayonnaise is still big and enjoyed in many different fishes, and by people in many different places. I love it on several things

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• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I really like mayonnaise, it makes for good sauces and macaroni salad is just best thing ever

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• GunnarGrop@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wtf is mayonnaise salad and why do I want to vomit

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• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But mayo instead of butter for a grilled cheese is kind of life changing.

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• entwine@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m a simple man with simple tastes. Saltine crackers with mayo are a comfort food for me.

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• chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Very small amounts of mayo to moisturize bread in a sandwich is about all the mayo I like. It’s heavy on almost anything with a significant amount, including stuff like takoyaki or okonomiyaki, which come with Japanese mayo on top by default. Chicken/tuna salads or coleslaw are maybes, but I think I like substitutes using say silky soy better anyway.

  Reason I didn’t mention egg salad is because despite eggs previously being one of my favorite foods, I seemed to have developed an allergy to them. Them being in baked goods are fine, but I can’t eat them in full form. Maybe also a reason mayo messes with me.

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• kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I still fw egg salad though.

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• renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Never considered commercial US branded bastardized mayo “Mayo” or even edible. Euro/Asian versions only, or homemade.

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• Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are they trying to say it’s dead because aioli exists?

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• Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mayo is flavorless wetness on sandwiches. No I will not elaborate

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• chanibal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Majonez kielecki.

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• demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My dad used to eat mayonaise salad and it was disgustiing.

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• Shamber@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is that another American thing?

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• ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not a huge mayo fan, but a cold tuna sandwich with lots of salt, black pepper, and cayenne, on Martin’s potato bread, with a cold Coke. Stuff of the gods.

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