Oh fuck off. Therapy won’t help with… *gestures at everything*
We really don't want to talk about our problems
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hperrin@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
buttnugget@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Agreed. It’s more like “people would rather be lost at sea than live in a modern society”.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
Just goes to show how insane society has become that you’d rather go to therapy than take a 29 day break by being lost at sea.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
29 days away from reality is therapy.
There’s a tiny town in northern California called Downieville that my wife and I love to visit. It’s maybe 200 people, sits on the convergence of two decent sized rivers, and there is pretty much no cell service. Even just a week of sitting by that river is enough to fully recharge me and not want to break everything for at least 4 months.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 hours ago
“Gee I love working, can’t wait to reduce my down time to work some more.”
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Society hasn’t become that bad. It’s becoming that bad again, and almost none of us are used to it.
blarghly@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Being lost at sea is reality. Society is the dream
grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Quit crying. You’ll be fine. Don’t be such a crybaby. Man up. Put on your big boy pants. Boys don’t cry. Boo hoo, gonna cry about it? Gonna cry like a little girl? Be a man. Face your problems like a man. Crying doesn’t help anything. Take it like a man. Don’t be a baby. You’re acting like a girl. Grow a pair. Suck it up and move on.
Why will men do literally anything besides talk about their feelings?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
To be fair it’s also men doing this to other men mostly. Women participate in toxic masculinity too, but really, men give each other a lot of shit with very little support.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 10 hours ago
Therapy doesn’t help much if you have no power over the root cause
devAlot@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Totally get where you’re coming from. If you’re staring down the barrel of something massive like trauma, abuse, an enitre system that’s completely fucked and seems way bigger than you and the others fighting it are or ever will be, it feels like no matter how much “self care” you do, the external crap stays the same, right?? It’s fucking maddening.
But idk, to me, therapy (actual, good therapy with a non-shitty therapist) isn’t about giving us power over the root cause, not always anyways because like you said, sometimes it’s impossible. Imo, a lot of times it’s about helping people stop handing more power to “it” (whatever it may be) than “it” already has. We don’t get to choose what happens to us sometimes, but we do get to choose how we respond to it, how we carry it, how we let it affect us, how we pass our pain onto others. It can be a super uncomfortable, yet extremely liberating, paradox. Like, okay, I might not be able to slay the dragon here (sorry, nerd here), but I can sure as hell stop feeding it in whatever way way I was (constant unhealthy thought patterns, my own actions or the lack thereof, etc).
Therapy doesn’t fix the world for sure, but it can help us decide which parts of the suffering are necessary, or which parts we might be unconsciously choosing to carry longer than we need to. Idk, that’s where our power really is, imo.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 6 hours ago
Fair, it can teach you tools many people do not have
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
My therapist is taking two weeks off for their own mental health, been hearing the same woes from everyone and it’s weighing
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
“men hate therapy”
Yeah not really. You just get beaten down after trying several therapists and paying a lot and not feeling better. Even if you went through that once, it’s very discouraging.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I have a great therapist these days who has helped me a lot. I still hate therapy. I did finally figure out why, though. Because, with the exception of therapy and a couple of really great people, everyone I’ve ever been vulnerable in front of has weaponized it against me. So even though I know my therapist wouldn’t actually do that I’m still waiting on it to come back and bite me.
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Been dumped by three women, the day after they saw me cry. Good news! My wife is fine with it, as rare as crying is, and comforts me. But y’all women don’t have a good track record in my book.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Yeah, the weaponization factor is real.
chunes@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Not to mention it just doesn’t work as well for men as it does for women.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Please say why it is that you believe that. It’s a fascinating claim.
j_z@feddit.nu 11 hours ago
Probably not what you want to hear, it really sucks to be in that spot, but it is possible to find good ones! I went through 3 therapists over the course of a couple of years before finding one that helped me.
ashenone@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
Therepy - costs money, needs an appointment, takes time to work out issues.
Lost at sea - free, no appointment necessary, immediate relief from the burden of living under capitalism
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Just get a project car. It costs money too, but you have a getaway from life, just go to your garage. And the end result is a cool car.
I ask myself spicier questions than the therapist ever will anyway.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 hours ago
This is therapy. if I could just drop out of everything for 29 days I’d come back refreshed and Zen as fuck.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m getting major surgery in two weeks and I’ll be on short term disability for an entire month afterwards. I’m honestly really looking forward to the time off, even if it’ll be full of physical suffering. My burnout outweighs the physical trauma of having nearly all of my reproductive organs removed.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 hours ago
I did the same, back during COVID lockdown. I think my body just started producing endorphins, because I was totally at piece while everybody lost their minds over that. I played The Outer Wilds and accepted that everything must end.
evening_push579@feddit.nu 10 hours ago
Isn’t that called vacation? Just don’t bring any communications device ;)
piranhaconda@mander.xyz 9 hours ago
I don’t know many people that can afford a 29 day vacation (I’m in the US, and yes I’m jealous of what I hear about European benefits)
bilb@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
That’s about 1 standard stint in rehab where I’m from
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Therapy has become the new buzzword to prescribe to any individualistic issue because most people don’t know what it is or who its for, they just think it’s a silver bullet solution to everything because everybody else says so… but it’s not.
Therapy is great for specific people with specific disorders, it’s there to help provide these people with solutions and treatments to improve their conditions. It’s not meant to be a replacement for a social circle or to fix the problems in your life.
Not to mention that therapy is either expensive or hard to access or the therapist you do get to see are usually not that great. It is very hard and very rare to find a good therapist that’s affordable and nearby. Even then, a therapist can only do so much. They’re trained to work through common disorders using several established methods, but not much beyond that. Therapists can help you overcome your anxiety, but they can’t help you find meaningful relationships.
This is doubly true for men, because a lot of men are facing issues related to finding purpose and meaning in life, and that’s something that’s beyond the scope of therapy. Maybe these issues could be resolved as a result of treating a disorder, but that’s not always the case. The point is that therapy is not a magical solution, and it’s not going to solve huge societal problems like men turning their backs on society.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Weak men can’t admit to their faults nor face their shortcomings, lackings and fears. Entire sections of the internet have been devoted to allowing men to avoid reality and remain immature…
daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
therapy costs money
Distropia@endlesstalk.org 11 hours ago
It seems that being a castaway is preferable to dystopia. thedailytism.com/autistic-man-stranded-on-desert-…
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You do realize that is a comedy site, right?
Distropia@endlesstalk.org 8 hours ago
But that’s the only nonpartisan site I could find!
Wazowski@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Eh. Therapy is overrated. Tried it a bunch of times and it’s not nearly effective for me as just… thinking.
pjwestin@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Then again, have you seen reality?
Agent641@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
1.8/10 on IMDB
My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
My best friend spent a week in the hospital with a life-threatening condition. Besides the almost dying part, it was the most relaxing and life-refocusing event of their adult life and they’re grateful to have experienced it. A forced reset and some compulsory solitude can be a blessing sometimes.
Were I to ever go to prison, I think I would personally love to get some solitary confinement time.
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
Solitude? Damn, are your hospitals made out of gold as well?
If you’re unlucky over here you get up to 7 other patiens in the same, unventilated room. Including patients who have air-transmittable infections because why not?
Air conditioning doesn’t exist in hospitals either by the way. That’s a luxury hospitals aren’t obligated to (and as such never) provide. Enjoy dehydrating in 30°C+ rooms.
I’d much rather just stay in solitude in my home for a week.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Depends on the kind of “lost at sea”
In a perfectly functioning oceanworthy boat stocked with food, but the GPS fell overboard and I have no idea where I am so I’m going to sail West as much as I can until I hit land, then sail counter-clockwise around the coast until I find something I can identify or someone I can ask? Sure let’s go.
Ship sank, I’m alone in an inflatable raft with a flare gun and a blinkenlight? Nah you go ahead.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Ill still sign up. Rafty and Flare Gunny sound like great new friends and we would have all sorts of adventures.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
I can think of two adventures you’ll be going on a lot: Sunburn and wave slosh. Meh.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Honestly if I had the means and skills to survive that semi-comfortably, I’d be down for making that an annual tradition.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Therapy just wants to back as a member of society. I don’t like society. It just sees be as a part of the economic machine. A stone and be squeezed for blood.
Flickerby@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Shameless plug for /c/reprieve@lemmy.zip for male identifying people to talk about these and all other issues with other men without any judgement or dumbass alpha male bullshit.
bender223@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
So jelly 😌
jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Therapy, trying to make you seem ok with the absolute bullshit you have to deal with which you know is wrong.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
If things didn’t get bad, I could absolutely see myself saying the same thing.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I think I’d rather be lost at sea than be anywhere near any portion of our current civilization.
Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
therapy might get covered but costs money somewhere along the way. it might also lose you a job for ‘unrelated’ reasons.
you presumably get paid while lost at sea if you are part of the crew
can@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
Depends on which is cheaper tbh.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Have you tried going to therapy?
Of course I’ve tried going to, there’s a sea.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Here’s my thing with therapy. I know the issue, i know what’s wrong with me, and I know what I’m supposed to do to fix it, i just don’t. I can’t see how therapy will help beyond what I’ve got
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
You can talk about why you dont want to fix it. Maybe there’s something there.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
Would pay to “get lost at sea for 29 days”.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
hey we need a rest from capitalism and zoom meetings.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
As someone in n therapy. Sure, yes. Its not great.
very_well_lost@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
No, we’d rather be lost at sea than have to participate in the broken society that makes people need therapy.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
I lack the photoshop skills, but uh
The ‘plap plap GET PREGNANT’ meme, but with a therapist shouting:
‘accept what you can’t change’
‘don’t blame yourself for things out of your control’
‘oh, the copay is $125’
‘you missed the last appointment so we charged you for not canceling in advance’
Turret3857@infosec.pub 12 hours ago
i feel vindicated.
qarbone@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
h’whut
Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
Lol
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
100%
But also, go to therapy
blarghly@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
You can just do that. No one is stopping you from buying a canoe and floating away