Sometimes I wonder what kinds of things we’re using today that we still haven’t found are toxic, carcinogenic or harmful in other ways…
ngl it gets you pretty buzzed
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kamen@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Muffi@programming.dev 16 hours ago
Microplastics is a solid contender
Newuser@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Don’t we already know they are toxic ?
kandoh@reddthat.com 14 hours ago
I think we’re 20 years away from a lot of vaping law suits. Lots of people think they’re healthy despite the evidence.
kamen@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It’s pretty well known they’re unhealthy, although sometimes this gets ignored. As a non-smoker it bugs me that these sometimes get a pass to be used indoors.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
I feel like we collectively forgot about “vape lung”
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 days ago
I learnes there were asbestos tobacco pipes like a week ago. Humanity really didn’t see any of this coming.
Asbestos tobacco pipes are insanely rare and collectible these days, though. No one dares smoke them, more historical discussion pieces.
Goun@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
We never care of what’s coming, we invent/discover something and use it for freaking everything instead of studying long term impact. It happens all the fucking time.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Asbestos really seemed like a miracle material. Its so easy to pull out of the ground and process into anything from tiles to fabric to brake disks. It’s abundant, cheap, and easy to mine. In a world where it seemed everything was always catching on fire, asbestos was magically fireproof. It was saving houses and children and housewives from going up in flames if they got too near a stove or fireplace. It was revolutionising industry, making workplaces safer and more efficient. I really don’t blame anyone for using it everywhere in those early years.
But greed took over after asbestos products flooded the market and the major health hazards became apparent. The corpos and the govts were too greedy and scared to admit it was dangerous, because that would mean choosing to dismantle a billions-dollar value strong industry and start recalling everything.
DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Like with aspartame. There was no legit long term studies done until recently and it showed that aspartame can reduce intelligence
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 1 day ago
I guess People will look at plastic in the future like we look at lead and asbestos now…
VonReposti@feddit.dk 1 day ago
I think it will be much less pronounced. The negative effects of plastic in the body are relatively unknown, but IMO I think it will mostly pose as neurodevelopmental-like symptoms which won’t be able to compare with either lead or asbestos.
And the environmental consequences? The majority just doesn’t worry about that.
It definitely won’t be as bad as asbestos where inhaling just a single fiber can cause cancer. Lead, maybe, but lead is still widely used. Just not in normal fuel. We still use it in some aviation fuel though.
plutopos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s impossible because there is no control group for microplastic
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Some plastics are worse than others. ABS, BPA, BPS, PFAS, etc. are really bad. Polycarbonate releases toxic fumes during manufacturing but it’s considered non-toxic afterwards.
PLA is plant-based and decomposable. Polyethylene is inert/non-reactive and non-toxic. Cellophane is literally made from cellulose.
I don’t really know about polypropylene, polyurethane, polystyrene, or polyester.
Then there’s vinyl and nylon. Fairly certain those are inert and non-toxic, but I’m not 100% certain.
Then you’ve got latex and natural rubber which some people have allergies to but they aren’t intrinsically toxic as far as I’m aware. Synthetic rubbers vary in toxicity. I don’t know about neoprene for instance, but silicon is inert and non-toxic.
The problem is “plastic” is such a broad term, and to a lot of people, all of the above are just “plastic.” The fact is there are a variety of plastics and choosing your material intelligently can make all the difference.
Of course, microplastics are a whole nother issue even aside from toxicity…
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
And PTFE (teflon)
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Isn’t it asbestos dust that’s the issue? Like asbestos in the walls isn’t harming anyone, but if it gets demolished or destroyed then the dust is what causes issues?
At least that’s what I heard, but it could be wrong. And I guess scraping the pipe might create some dust anyway…
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
The dust is actually fine needles that cause chronic inflammation in lungs, which triggers cancer. But this can happen with any fibres. Lately everyone is using carbon fiber and it’s as bad as asbestos.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 day ago
They all seem sealed with a black varnish, and I have personally never held one or been able to look at the bowl or stem to see if they’re coated as well.
Naturally, both the stem and the bowl would lightly cake with carbon over time, 5-6 bowls before it’s on everything evenly.
Find one and be the hypothesis lol.
I’ll stick to briar
daggermoon@piefed.world 1 day ago
We used to drink radium too.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Ah the famous picture of a guy who’s lower jaw just fell off after he kept drinking this.
Similarly well known ‘radium girls’.
Horrific cases.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Millions of cars used asbestos brake pads from the 50s to the 1990s.
cornshark@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh shit, that would make smoking really bad for your lungs. You could even get lung cancer
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Fun Fact!
Pipe Tobacco is almost never inhaled by pipe smokers if they never smoked cigarettes beforehand.
This is one of the difficult parts of reading up on lung cancers between both groups. I couldn’t find any studies pointing directly at “pipe and only pipe smoking”, as the population pools for testing people dwindled rather quickly by the late 1980’s since pipe smoking was mostly gone outside of hobbyists.
I’d pair this up with vaping/snus in the harm-reduction camp if that’s true. I wouldn’t consider any type of smoke entering your body as entirely harm-free… or vapor, or nicotine for that matter.
ijustliketrains@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wait til you learn about what they used to put in cigarette filters
spitfire@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’ve used pipes with lead in them for water ducts in Ancient Rome IIRC
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 1 day ago
As far as i know this was not much of a problem the older the pipes got, because the pipes would accumulate a layer of calcium carbonate deposits from the untreated water over time.
FluorideMind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
At least he has his safety squints on.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
Growing up my parents house had asbestos tiles on the basement floor and asbestos insulation in the attic. Probably had this shit sprayed on the pipes and ducts also. And look at me, I’m perfectly f
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Asbestos shocking competition Wittenoom Miners playing an asbestos shovelling competition
Syndication@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Looks safe to me, they are outside so it has perfect ventilation!
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The first time I saw this kind of message said unironically was here on Lemmy.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That seems unwise.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s breath taking
MrEff@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Looks like a ‘shirts vs skins’ game of ‘catch the cancer’. Bad news for the skins team if the don’t have sunscreen on! (Who are we kidding, we know they dont…)
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
To be fair, it takes a long time to give you cancer and in the meantime it’s really good at not catching fire. Some of the shit people did in the past seems crazy but if asbestos was discovered today we would probably do most of the same shit.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world 1 day ago
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Doromad radioactive toothpaste.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online 2 days ago
the tingling let’s you know it’s working.
papalonian@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Did you know? Clean, fresh air has a natural tingling effect. Most places these days are so polluted with toxins that we never experience perfectly clean air anymore.
That’s where asbestos comes in.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online 2 days ago
Asbestos. is there anything it can’t do?™
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I hate how every time we come up with a new “miracle” chemical that solves really big issues it ends up being either carcinogenic or devastatingly harmful to the environment.
It’s like how we almost made bed bugs extinct in America but the chemical being used was causing cancer and birth defects.
Why can’t we have nice chemical things!?!?
EddoWagt@feddit.nl 1 day ago
We discovered plastics, which pretty much is a miracle chemicle, they’re mostly not even that harmful unless you make a gigaton of it and just kind of dump it absolutely everywhere
Ferroto@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Bluewing@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
First there was just cheese. Then we refined that cheese into plastics. Because cheese is just a mere handful of polymers away from plastic. And you wonder why you get constipated when you eat too much cheese…
Then we got better and developed celluloid to make exploding billiard balls and false teeth from. It also got used to make pocket knife handles because you could make the most beautiful tortoise shell handles and Mother of Pearl, (the tortoises and oysters were very happy about that). And colored handles were bright and vibrant and stayed that way. But the off gassing would often rust the blades to dust in short order.
Today, we have a thousand different plastic formulations for a thousand different uses. And it’s everywhere from soda bottles and cell phones, to cars, airplanes, artificial hips, and rocket ships. And even your balls.
It’s a brave new plastic world.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Glares in microplastics in my balls
reksas@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
that would require us to be in control of our own lives, instead of rich owning us. thorough research costs a lot of money and resources, it would cut into profits and some rich guy might not be able to buy third yact.
cmhe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
H2O is a pretty nice chemical, that makes people drinking it less thristy, and is good for plants and animals as well. Just be careful that you don’t have too much of it, and you are good.
sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
⚠️**Stay away from dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO).**⚠️ This dangerous chemical shows an 100% fatality rate for those who have consumed it, and can cause instant death when inhaled.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We can. Plenty of good stuff. Or at least, not terrible stuff. But it makes more profit to get something out quick and see how it goes than do long, serious, costly research before releasing a product.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Well that and there’s always the manufacturing issue wherein you could make something that does everything you want but it’s a bitch to manufacture, maintain, or install. A good example is lead pipes were a known issue but the hope was that calcium buildup would help solve the problem before it became a problem, galvanized steel technically existed at the time but manufacturing it in the quantities needed was a bitch and Iron pipes would just burst constantly so that was dead in the water.
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why can’t we have nice chemical things!?!?
Because we live by the p-value today. We’d rather get eaten alive by bed bugs every night for the next 60 years instead of having up to a 20% increased chance of developing cancer when we turn 73.
Syndication@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Approved by RFK JR ™️
krisevol@lemmus.org 1 day ago
From the guy that banned red chettos? Idk about all that.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Red cheetos weren’t killing people, that’s why they looked into that. Cancer-can here, with a proven history of being deadly, would look a-ok to them if they were still made. They’d probably issue a fake commercial made under the name of whatever agency should definitely not approve of this where whey literally spray this on burning meat on a bbq then gobble it with a glass of old refried grease.
percent@infosec.pub 11 hours ago
And not the slightest hint of PPE in the image. Such a different time. I don’t even spray water-based paints without a mask
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If you’ve been diagnosed with mesothelioma, you may be entitled to compensation.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 23 hours ago
call 1-800 at this lawfirm for a free consultation.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The plus side of it being liquid is it probably wouldn’t be very friable and not wind up in your lungs, until it dries out that is.
AscendantSquid@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ve had deep fried kool-aid at the state fair before, so I bet this is pretty friable
plutopos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
how do you even begin deep-frying kool-aid
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You’ll have to freeze it first
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Sounds perfect for face painting
LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
That guy looks just like Scott Bessent.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Cellari@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Spray on insulation that is fire and mould resistant. Sounds good
plutopos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Carrying this instead of pepper spray /j
mech@feddit.org 1 day ago
Great, so the person attacking you dies in 20 years.
Bluewing@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
But they die in misery. Execution at it’s finest.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
As it so happens, asbestos is actually much less harmful when you drink it, because it doesn’t get lodged in your lungs. (Iirc) So having asbestos pipes is fine
No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.org 1 day ago
Yes, but having an aerosol spray is terrible
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The first cigarette filters used asbestos.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah we’ve had first cancer but what about second cancer.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Imagine naming it ass best os.
ddplf@szmer.info 1 day ago
Where can I check out this distro?
Hupf@feddit.org 1 day ago
Etterra@discuss.online 1 day ago
I’ll bet that’s super safe and will never have any drawbacks ever for all time.
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
I can just feel the
If you or a loved one was diagnosed with mesothelioma, you may be entitled to compensationads pouring in with this.shininghero@pawb.social 2 days ago
The regular ad, or the Can-Can musical version?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
No mask, enclosed space, right up in there with your face
mech@feddit.org 2 days ago
Guy doesn’t have to worry about that, he’s been smoking 90 cigarettes a day since grade school.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 23 hours ago
the abestos dust is more likely to cause problems. this isnt specific to to abestos, but silica dust, or some rocks tha tproduce a very fine powder, or anything that produces a fine particulate that can get into the lungs.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
I remember the first time I huffed canned asbestos. Woke up six days later in Graceland, Memphis, Tennessee; dressed like Santa Claus in the middle of April.
10/10 experience. Totally worth the deliberating lung cancer.
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 19 hours ago
They added some lead powder as well? You know for the taste.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
That look on his face like “lol I’m not going to be around to care about climate change or this bullshit”
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Cancer… in a can. That would make a banger ad.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Good god. Lemme guess, the propellant in that can are CFCs and they added lead to lubricate the spray since it kept clogging the nozzle. May as well add arsenic for flavor.
Tiral@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It’s always interesting how amazing things always turn out to be deadly. Like Ephedrine was a miracle weight loss drug, asbestos is a fantastic insulator, ect. I’m waiting for the GLP1 crap everyone is taking to have insane effects in a few years.
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Even oxygen is destroying all life on the planet.