Do it for your country's debt!

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• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If we emptied the account of every rich asshole like this we would achieve the same thing AND lose a whole class of dickbags that think they should be in charge.

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  • mushroommunk@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The top 25 US billionaires could pay off US debt. Not even every billionaire. They total about 3 trillion net worth.

    That’s ignoring say the $60 billion or so Apple has in cash and who knows what other companies have

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    • BillSchofield@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “As of January 2026, the total U.S. national debt has exceeded $38.5 trillion. This figure represents the total money borrowed by the federal government to cover annual deficits, which is growing rapidly, with a rise of over $2 trillion in 2025 alone.”

      I definitely want to tax the hell out of the rich, but we are in a deep hole. A long term systemic change will serve us better (or in addition to) talking all of their money now.

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    • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not even “the debt”

      It’s their fucking debt. It’s the literal bill they keep skipping out on.

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    • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nitpick- that is the deficit, not the debt. Like elsewhere said, debt is near 40 trillion.

      Otherwise I still agree with the suggestion.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      $3 trillion is only enough to cover the annual deficit (that’s how much the debt grows by each year). Oz doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sovereign wealth fund, universal healthcare, and free education!

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• SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Doctors I trust more than Doctor Oz, Doctor Phil, or RFK Jr.

  Doc Brown

  Doc Hollywood

  Doctor Bombay

  Doctor Claw

  Doctor Demento

  Doctor Detroit

  Doctor Dirty

  Doctor Dolittle

  Doctor Doofenshmirtz aka Dr. D or just “Doof”

  Doctor Doom

  Doctor Evil

  Doctor Feelgood

  Doctor Frankenstein

  Doctor Hannibal Lecter

  Doctor Horrible

  Doctor Jekyll

  Doctor Leonard H. “Bones” McCoy

  Doctor Martens

  Doctor Moreau

  Doctor Nick

  Doctor Otto Octavius

  Doctor Pepper

  Doctor Scholl’s

  Doctor Orin Scrivello

  Doctor Seuss

  Doctor Spaceman

  Doctor Spock

  Doctor Strange

  Doctor Strangelove

  Doctor Who

  Doctor Zhivago

  Doctor Zoidberg

  Dr. Dre

  Dr. Enuf

  Dr. Tran

  Rug Doctor

  Even Nurse Ratchet

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You monster, you forgot Doctor Girlfriend

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    • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dr. Mrs. The Monarch.

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  • officermike@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You left out Doctor Kevorkian

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    • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Every time I post this list I get a few more suggestions. I can’t believe it took this long for Kevorkian to show up.

      He is a good doctor. He did EXACTLY what his patience wanted. Some people can’t see past that.

      THANKS!

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even Nurse Ratchet

    I’m convinced she’s a Deputy Secretary at HHS somewhere.

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    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Certified hood classic lmao.

      “He’s a REAL DOCTOR.”

      “Oh shit, it’s Dr. Tran!”

      (context for the confused because this masterpiece is now old enough to drive and in some regions, drink.)

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You forgot:

    Doc Johnson

    Doc Gooden

    Dr J, Julius Irving

    The Doctor, ST:Voyager

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    • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Doc Johnson

      LOL How did I miss that one.

      THANKS for playing!

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  • Notyou@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Doctor Princess?

    Doctor Kelso?

    Doctor No?

    Doctor Nick?

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Doctor Cat M.D!

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    • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is a real doctor. Too confusing or not funny. beautybydrcat.com

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  • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you have to mess up a lot to be less trustworthy than someone called Doctor Evil

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    • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dr. Oz will kill you.

      Dr. Phil will take all your money.

      RFK Jr. LOOKS sick. Don’t take health advice from sick people.

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    • SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, somebody is really messed up. How many guesses do I get?

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  • paequ2@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dr. Simi

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dr. Tran

    “Oh shit, it’s Dr. Tran!”

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• aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Adding $3 trillion in GDP would not remove the debt anyway. Assholes like this one don’t even understand how GDP is calculated.

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  • BabyVi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mfs legit think GDP stands for Gross Domestic Profit.

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  • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s beautifully wrong on so many levels.

    1. Increasing GDP doesn’t address the debt crisis.
    2. The debt is WAY bigger than 3 trillion
    3. As long as Trump is in office, the debt will grow, and nothing can be done to change that.

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  • HowAbt2day@futurology.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re not a team player, are you? Work more and work harder. For the team. /s

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    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “We’re all in this together.”

      “You’re an essential worker.”

      “We’re a family.”

      Telltale signs of a malignant sociopath.

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• karashta@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or we could stop lying about what the national debt is and tax the wealthy to destroy their absurd power.

  https://mmt101.substack.com/p/mmt-basics-national-debt-defined

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• uberdroog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or we could make it illegal to be a billionaire.

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• jontree255@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Please stay in the corporate meat grinder so we can have enough money to fuck kids then bomb them”

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• Soup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We’re constantly more productive and never see a reduction in work hours, only more work. You bring this up to one of these fucks or their simps and they say “sure, but when will the work get done?” as if that comment makes even the slightest amount of sense.

  The very first thing we all need to do is stop working so hard. The rich don’t have any real skills and they have no power without the people they exploit.

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• CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just as a heads up, ypu dont need to carry a balance and be charged interest - you can pay off your cards each month never paying interest and still have an improved score, simply pay the statement balance before the due date

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    • Tower@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve seen people have their cards cancelled for doing this. Rare, but not unheard of.

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, actually yes, countries paying down their debit is not a good thing.

    But they can switch the debit into a form that doesn’t pay any interest.

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• Triumph@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That's not how national debt works you absolute ladle.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Americans are trained to believe that our National Debt is some kind of foreign imposed obligation that comes with the threat of sanctions and military intervention if we fail to pay it. Because that’s how we handle debts international, it must be how we handle debts internally.

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  • BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If the government has more income, that just means they have more money to give to corporations and wealthy people.

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    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because you give them the money, then they use it to generate even more money for the country?

      It does come back through taxes? right?

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    • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But this doesn’t give much more income to the government. Even if $3 Trillion more dollar circulated, disregarding job market dillution and lack of skilled labor, then the GOP defficit adds about a trillion per year and this would only generate about 15% taxes on those wages and other wealth transfers or only 450 billion.

      Also, that 300Tn number makes no sense because each of 4.5M 18 year olds would have to generate $666,666 revenue.

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• Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The thing is that he’s right, but will these sleazy fucks do anything to actually make it happen? Well let’s see what they’re to implement…

  • A universal healthcare system so Americans are healthier and less stressed? Nope
  • Free college so Americans can start their careers as efficiently as possible? Nope
  • Free universal daycare for all American parents so they could focus on their careers without being to stressed about where to take their kids? Nope
  • Raising the minimum wage to something livable so people don’t depend on government programs? Nope
  • Investing in public transport so people can more reliably commute to work and find new jobs? Nope
  • Strengthening worker rights to ensure that workers are taken care of, thus ensuring their longevity and productivity? Nope
  • Passing union friendly policies while prosecuting union busting businesses to make sure American workers feel their hard work isn’t being taken advantage of? Nope
  • Regulating hazardous workplace conditions to ensure the safety of workers? Nope

  So what they fuck do they mean by this? They clearly don’t care about the debt or the well being of Americans since they’re not willing to do anything about either. No, what they want are results without any of the work needed to achieve it. They’re not looking for a more productive economy, they’re looking for slaves.

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  • French75@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The thing is that he’s right

    He’s not right. The national debt is way fuckin bigger than 3 trillion. He’s also wrong in presuming that an infusion of productivity (tax revenue) can “solve” intentional over-spending. He’s just a serial scammer spouting uninformed nonsense to stay relevant.

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    • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re completely right. It won’t solve the debt problem, that can only be solved with a redone trade policy. I’m just saying that in the abstract, its a good direction to go in IF we implement the stuff that I listed in my comment. People will work better if the system works for them. It currently doesn’t, and people are just trying to survive.

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    • DannyMac@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You mean a simple solution won’t work for an exceptionally complex problem? 😱

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    • Zannsolo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      While we do overspend the bigger problem is we under tax, specifically the rich. Our debt payments are also getting out hand which is going to be a big problem.

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    • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      last time i bothered doing the napkin math, it really wouldn’t take much to reduce the national debt to more sustainable pre-9/11 levels. just tax rich cunts (anyone who is a milllionaire) at 60-70’s level of taxation for 4 years and it would be paid down to that level within 1 election cycle

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Garbage people produce garbage ideas.

  We can pay off the debt by reducing military spending by 90% for the next thirty years. We would still be in the top three countries for military spending.

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  • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, you know, making the rich people pay even the same taxes WE pay, let alone the 50-90% marginal rates from decades ago, when the country was strong.

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• anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or if we tax billionaires and corporations…

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  • PistolPete@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t forget those pesky religious tax exemptions too, while you’re at it.

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• TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  universal health care would accomplish the same thing

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You found the only liberal argument for healthcare.

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    • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, those are important arguments and people would be wise to make them.

      Outside this bubble that kind of talk is very accepted and desired. Convincing people it’s better for the economy, starting a business doesn’t risk losing healthcare, businesses now don’t need to waste time and money picking health insurance plans, etc. Are all valid arguments and would only help achieve the end goal of universal healthcare.

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• boaratio@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fucking ghoul. Thanks Oprah for making him famous.

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  • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Name one person uplifted by Oprah that’s not a fucking ghoul.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is a Behind the Bastards on this very topic.

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  • Tiger666@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oprah is part of the club that you are not in.

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• GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  as an aside - Read somewhere that this argument that the government can’t afford all of these things like healthcare, infrastructure, etc. that would help most people is bullshit. Since the federal government prints it’s own money there is nothing that it can’t afford. We spent 3 - 8 trillion on the Afghanistan and Iraq wars alone. And when people argue that it will increase inflation - sure maybe, but if you tax wealthy people more it can cover part or all of the newly printed money.

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  • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Printing money isn’t usually a good idea as it generally causes inflation/devaluation of the currency. So while the US could do it, the outcome would probably be devastating.

    In basic terms, the more of something you have the less valuable it becomes. This works for things like trading cards/collectibles, but also applies to money.

    A good real world example of this recently was the pandemic. Between reduced spending (due to be cooped up) and stimulus money (ppp loans, checks, etc.), a lot of Americans came out of the pandemic looking to spend. This huge surge in spending meant a lot of people fighting over a set amount of goods (since during the pandemic manufacturing took a hit). So high demand and low/constrained supply leads to rising prices. So while people have more money, that doesn’t necessarily mean they can buy more things.

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• IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fresh out of highschool? Wtf… Are kids really not getting jobs while still going to highschool anymore…

  Am I out of touch or is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

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  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He’s super out of touch, I had a part time job when I was 15 at a Dairy Queen. And as far as I’m aware, that’s still pretty common.

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    • moody@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some people do, for sure, but lots of people don’t get a job until college age, or in some cases until after graduating.

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Am I out of touch

    No :)

    is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

    Totes!

    Although, my experience definitely differed. I tried the “Get a job out of highschool” thing, but there were lines around the block consisting of former cubicle-dwellers with 3 kids applying to my local In-N-Out Burger, so stuff was bleak. I was fortunate I was able to wait a little while.

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  • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    not as much anymore. it’s hard enough for a grown adult to have a 20 year old car and an entry level service industry job, which I hear from boomers is what they could afford with a part time job in high school.

    some teens still work but usually only if their families really need the money. middle class teens are told to laser focus on college resume padding, so grades and extracurricular are what they end up doing. parents worry that a job will distract from algebra homework, and football or marching band looks better to prestigious colleges than McDonalds (non adult directed activities aren’t counted at all)

    I didn’t get my first job until after I dropped out of college

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    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      (non adult directed activities aren’t counted at all)

      I guess this closes certain avenues of BSing the system but also, wow that feels crazy arbitrary and unfair. Damn, it makes a lot of sense that this would be some kinda unspoken rule of what counts.

      Not to be too conspiracy-brain but it really fits that notion that modern schooling exists solely to subsidize corporate recruitment.

      “We made our own film/robots/fundraiser/business!” 👎👎

      “I did free labor for a wealthy multinational conglomerate!” <br>😎<br> 👈👈

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    • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s wild to me that kids these days expect their parents to pay for their college.

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  • Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    option B.

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• Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Alternatively, actually tax the top 10% at the 37% tax rate for everything earned above $600k, and let the working class try to enjoy a little life, with healthcare coverage.

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• Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did I fuckin miss something? We are 30 trillion in debt.

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• SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sell yourself to indentured servitude at 18 and work until you’re found dead by the janitor. Your corporate masters need a new Ferrari!

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• Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So when do you start doing actual work, Oz?

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• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Two of the three points he made are total horseshit, but let’s not throw out that last one:

  If we could get the average American to start working a year earlier, right out of high school, or a year later --not retire – or work better during their lifetime because they’re healthy, it would generate about $3 trillion to the US economy.

  Universal Health Care fucking now.

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• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Instead of trying to extend the prole’s work life by a couple years, we COULD tax billion-dollar companies and their owners by 2% more and make three times as much money!

  But we can’t! Sorry. Our hands are tied

  Also, can’t afford minimum wage increase this year, times are tough.

  Oh! Almost forgot! We need a raise of 10% this year, and it’s time for our winter break! After winter break, it’s spring break. Lots of breaks. Then we will come back to “work” to pass more important legislation, right before our summer break.

  You don’t get breaks every year? Damn. Well, life is not fair what can we do later gator

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• Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Their fucking hubris is almost unbelievable

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• nulluser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That would more than remove the debt.

  No it wouldn’t! They’d just create even more debt, and then try to tell people that, if they’d start working earlier, and keep working later, and work harder, then… they could create even MORE debt.

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• Tetragrade@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is going to be so great for the Rich People’s Pedo Island Money.

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• fujiwood@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  medium.com/…/new-report-employers-in-the-usa-have…

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• Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Grind the younger generation in to dust for ME!” -X’ers, always

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• Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like they’d use the money to pay back the debt lol.

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• Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope Dr Oz is killed in front of his family

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Already trying to roll back child labor laws under trump’s previous administration. Why did they decide to pay attention now?

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