Do it for your country's debt!

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• BigDiction@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  ‘Work better during their lifetime because they’re healthy’ is actually the way forward.

  But of course it’s mentioned last because the first two proposals are a lot cheaper and faster.

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  • Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Only when the inverse is also true, if you’re allowed to live even when you can’t contribute.

    Paid sick days? That’d cost the economy today. Who gives a shit about tomorrow?

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• lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Watching the US try to fix the country without taxing rich fuckers is like watching a poor person try to budget their way out of being poor.

  Sometimes you just need more fucking money.

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• namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s so hard to understand why people don’t want to have kids

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  • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No worries! The Republican solution is forced marriage and outlaw birth control.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re likely being hyperbolic but the new tax code proposal by Vought and Heritage is to that end. To financially incentivize marriage over single living especially in the presence of children. Leaving a bad marriage would be financially difficult at best.

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• lectricleopard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Im doing whatever I can to not work. My family and friends are more important to me than any job.

  What can you possibly offer to me that would make that math change? Threats? There’s more of us than you buddy. There’s a reason its “eat the rich” and not tax them. We dont need you, you need us.

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• BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If we WANT to Fix the Debt we need to Tax like 5 REALLY Rich People! Get RID of Retirement!

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• someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Unfortunately our work doesn’t go towards the debt. It goes to making the rich richer.

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• RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  There is the pool of people that are looking for a job but currently doesn’t have a job. There you have many unexploited work hours. Start there genious.

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• CaptDust@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I don’t want to hear about national debt from a politician ever again. Doge fixed it all, were doing great. Kindly fuck off.

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• morto@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If necromancy was a thing, they would make us work even after dying

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Robocop has entered the chat

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It would generate $3T for the US Economy

  Isn’t this one of the assholes insisting AI is going to take all our jobs? Why do you suddenly need 17-year-olds in the workforce and 67-year-olds delaying their retirement if Computers Are Gonna Do It in another ten years?

  Nevermind the baby-brained cost-benefit analysis of pulling in under-educated teenagers for low margin labor or stalling burnouts from leaving the workforce. “Work Harder, Not Smarter” appears to be the motto of the modern capitalist.

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• OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah I didn’t make that debt. You pay it.

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  • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No fucking shit.

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    • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Are you okay?

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Motherfucker you’re a surgeon, not an economist

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    To be fair economists are the last ones you can trust on the economy, as they are paid by monied interests.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah but cardiothorasic surgeons are right next to them as they’re more or less completely shielded from monetary concerns and firmly camped on mount stupid about everything but their special subset of surgery

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• nonentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The plan is to physically destroy yourself to fix an entirely imaginary problem.

  The ‘National Debt’ is merely the cumulative tally of money that nation’s government has ‘spent’ into, and not yet taxed out of, existence. It imposes no tangible burden, and believing it does helps the owning class convince the uninitiated to choose and work against their own interests.

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Debt is caused by the rich refusing to contribute. Everyone needs adequate healthcare, housing, clean food and water, transport, and a pristine environment.

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    • nonentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This argument lends weight to the specious idea that taxation on wealth hoarding is necessary to pay for the provision of society.

      Provisioning healthcare, housing, food, water, transport, and a liveable environment is not constrained by financing, it’s an exclusively social and political choice to not allocate or deploy the appropriate resources.

      The financially obese should be euthanised through taxation, not because we need their money, but because they’re an existential threat to any society that tolerates them.

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• bitwolf@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Or just allow more immigrants into the economy. Then our GDP would grow.

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  • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And tax the billionnaires properly - and if they don’t want that, make them unable to flee their capital from being taxed.

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• pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  who gives a shit about your stupid debt. if you have debt ask your billionaire friends to spot you.

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• Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Increased productivity means jack shit when the results of said productivity are being sucked up by people at the top.

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• melfie@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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  • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    whats this from?

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    • WrenMala8@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s an Irish sitcom called “Father Ted”

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• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  My favorite are the ones that complain about how nobody wants to work and everybody’s lazy. Yet, they themselves stopped working in their mid-50s after fighting for years to get on disability for their unhealthy lifestyles (obesity & cigarettes).

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• SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Dude who can’t even be trusted in his primary field of study is now slowly drifting out of his lane. How long before he starts talking about AI too?

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• Nomorereddit@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Fuck the debt, but since we’re living longer we should be contributing to society longer. Not amazon, but something like growing weed in your basement. Or crops in backyard for farmers market.

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Sure. Once every billionaire has been taxed out of existence, and if we still don’t have enough money, we can start talking about increasing the retirement age.

    If, on the other hand, taxing the billionaires out of existence is more than we need, we can lower the retirement age.

    We could start collecting social security at 40 if we taxed the ultra-rich properly.

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Kill a billionaire for every immigrant for every ICE murder.

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• BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is why I’ve been not purchasing much anymore. Beyond food and what I need for work as well as shelter, there’s not much else to spend money on. I’ve developed some hobbies and I’m focusing more on the good they do for me.

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• gabbath@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I keep hoping that all the demonic shit Aaron Rupar is covering will eventually push him to the left. I’m amazed how he can still be a milquetoast lib while being constantly exposed to evil.

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• Ascendor@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Same is happening in Germany right now. Work more, longer, get less pensions, receive less health care, be less sick.

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• HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Anyone who thinks a currency-issuing country like the US would be better off by taking $3 trillion OUT OF CIRCULATION, thereby making the American public $3 trillion POORER clearly shows that they understand NOTHING about how economies work.

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    One would think that would go without saying, but in today’s world, the ivy league suits tell us falsehoods and we believe it. Not us but us collectively. Burn the ivy league to the ground.

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• vane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Is he saying that USA plan to borrow $3 trillion this year ? Because last year it was $1 trillion dollars.
  Where the fuck are we all going ? Where are the limits ?

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Bankruptcy is the limit, incoming.

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• Virtvirt588@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Why is it that they always talk about giving the working class more work? It is another conondrum where the borguoise are put once again as the victims - erasing all their wrongdoings because of their fault.

  The extension they’re giving to the working life isn’t a novelty anymore. It should be quite clearcut that they’re manipulating people just to pay off their debt.

  What really matters is what the people are going to do - as long as the misinformation campaigns and indoctrination to wage slavery continue, shit like this will continue as well. Its up to the people to decide when that tipping point will be reached - if it does.

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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Work more, work longer, work for less, work better, work work work! Between all that start pumping out kids without missing work! We need them coming out as soon as possible so we can send them to more wars and grind them into our drugs.

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Or we could kill all the Sociopathic Oligarchs and their families, and repatriate their stolen wealth. If anyone starts to earn more than, say, $10 million dollars, their entire family gets executed, and their wealth repatriated.

  They won’t be able to give it away fast enough.

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• drdiddlybadger@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You can really tell that no one actually criticizes these people to their faces. Who says this shit? I would be roasted for weeks for saying anything that stupid in a public place.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Well, you could reduce your military spending as well, but that’s just crazy talk.

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• SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  How about we institute a wealth tax, uncap social security taxes, halve the defense budget, and roll out medicare for all instead.

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