lectricleopard
@lectricleopard@lemmy.world
- Comment on now it's my turn to hold the stick maybe? 1 day ago:
Yeah, thats the “stop talking and hit the damn thing” stick. Talk while you’re not holding it…
- Comment on Behold: A vibe-designed pcb 3 days ago:
Skynet v1.0 doesnt make functioning machines. At least when a person asks…
- Comment on Slippery 1 week ago:
Sounds like not enough, or bad coke to me. There are a lot of people that are getting lidocaine with a bit of coke i think. It gets cut to stretch it but still makes your nose numb. I was getting 1g stones for a bit. That would make something like 10 100mg shots. IV. Enough to make you puke when it hits. And I would push it up to 200mg and have seizures. This isnt something people do with caffeine. There isnt a euphoria with caffeine just the speedy feeling. Id want another after a seizure. That much coffee makes me wish I had a cup less, not more.
- Comment on Slippery 1 week ago:
I think a distinction between dependence and addiction makes sense. Im not sure how people find this confusing, personally. People dont compulsively take ssris. Like, you dont run out early. If you run out of Xanax or oxy early, you are abusing it, and showing signs of addictive behavior. If you have extra at the end of the month, you probably have a somewhat healthy relationship to your medication.
The coffee thing shows either a contrarian attitude or a naive one. Im tempted to say, go do a bump of coke and tell me thats a similar animal. Its not.
There isnt really a fuzzy line here, its pretty clear to all involved that someone is an addict. When you cross the line from just a bad choice or two, to a consistent clear problem affecting your daily life isnt always clear.
Its the way if affects your life that matters imo. If you find yourself benefiting and not harmed, im not here to say you should change something. I’ve heard a lot of people say they needed the liquid courage of a drink to work, or speak in public though, so it’s common to kid yourself about the negatives while focusing on the perceived benefits. Usually its, just letting loose at night or on the weekend, and the usage, or its consequences, leak into daily life. At the end of the road, there is no normal daily life, but at the start and for a time it can be hangovers or withdrawal due to limited access. When you decide its something worth addressing is up to the individual.
- Comment on Slippery 1 week ago:
Hey, if you can just hang on a Friday night and it doesnt affect your daily life, Im the last person to say you shouldn’t do you.
I cant just do a Friday. It leads to Saturday, then next week, and month later I cant get anything else done but get high. Im at the end of the progression. There is no just enjoying an evening for me anymore. Next time I pick up, l die. Last time I almost did.
- Comment on Slippery 1 week ago:
Im not aware of anyone that obsesses about their blood pressure medication, to the point the will leave work in the middle of the day to take it early. Thats aside from the fact Im talking about altering your mental state significantly, which most medications won’t do (and the ones that do can be abused).
The obsession to change your mental state often stems from those factors you mentioned, so im not sure why you say you disagree.
- Comment on Slippery 1 week ago:
Addiction, aside from physical addiction and withdrawal, isnt dependant on continued use of the same substance. If you feel the need (even if you dont give in every time) to alter your state of being everyday, then you are likely an addict. Its an obsession with finding and getting a means to escape reality.
Usually people will settle on one or two things that are easy to get or provide the desired effect, even when effort is made. Its not something you can control, definitionally. If you can just put it down for a year and dont miss it, then ill concede you are maybe not yet an addict, but daily use of anything points to a reluctance to stop.
- Comment on Save me from going down a dark path 2 weeks ago:
What? Layne Staley died of his addiction, likely a blood infection based on the interviews ive seen. He refused to stop and get medical attention. My best friends mother drank herself to death, with a broken hip, she drug herself into her car and drove to the liquor store and just honked at people until someone would get the liquor she wanted, then drove home to drink alone. These people had every opportunity and resource to stop, and get the drug, and chose the drug, even when their health was wanning.
Death is perhaps one of the most natural part of addiction. Stopping is abnormal.
- Comment on Save me from going down a dark path 2 weeks ago:
Thats a shame about the rehab.
I agree AA, and NA should not be govt mandated. Id just say its spiritual instead of religious. I know thats a worn thin sentence, but I think it highlights the above mentioned difficulty of developing the desire to stay stopped. If you’ve spent years in the street, a whole different approach to life is required, but completely foreign. You gotta trust someone else’s suggestions on a sort of blind faith at first until you see results. Unfortunately, like you say, its the Bible stuff the programs were originally rooted in that is most common. I decided to be the change I wanted to see in my area, and its well received every time.
When I stay sober for years without saying the lord’s prayer or even appealing to sky daddy, and have grounded real experience as both an active addict and a recovering addict, you cant argue. I have always had a desire to help others and I was taught “each one teach one.” My sponsor said, if youre the first athiest here, teach the second, and save a life. I stay partly because I want an atheist to be able to find me. I dont even have to be at the meeting they show up to because people know about me now, and can just be like “yeah I know a guy thats an atheist, dont sweat it.”
Great chat. Hope you’re in a great place today.
- Comment on Save me from going down a dark path 2 weeks ago:
There are no official AA or NA living facilities. Its against the 12 traditions. If someone characterized it that way to you then they were mistaken, or some group that isnt AA or NA is trying to take advantage of their reputation.
I’ve lived in recovery houses. A home that is maintained as a place for recovering people to live. Sort of like a halfway house, but not for people being released from jail. It was the only rent I could afford, being homeless (100 a week 20 yrs ago, where rent on a studio was double that). They required attendance in some recovery program, but not necessarily 12 step. It was a come up for me. If you own a home, or are stable in your housing in some otherway, its not really an advantage.
Unless you know the people there. I moved into 2 houses where I had already been friends with the people living there, through NA mtg attendance. So it was just like having roommates. Thats often not the case though.
I see people poo poo 12 step recovery and recovery houses all the time, and Ill admit, we’re talking about unstable people doing their best. I had already developed a good street sense by the time I hit the rooms, so if thats not the case for you, it can be off putting to find out what its like at the bottom for a lot of people.
The religious stuff, ill just say, you were talking to pushy individuals. They are out there. I actually have people tell me that theyre glad im an atheist, so a new person can see they dont have to listen to the Bible thumper in the mtg. I shoot em down every time. Im too smart for their scripts lol.
I just dont want someone to read this thread and avoid their local group without ever trying it. Its free and lasts an hour. If you think the people are assholes, try a different 1 maybe. After a couple hours investment, you’ll know if you can hang with the folks there or not.
- Comment on Save me from going down a dark path 2 weeks ago:
I’ve followed her for a little bit now. I guess yt could tell I seen a cup of perc coffee or two and showed me her videos about AA. Ill say, she’s not wrong about poor behavior of repected members. She’s missing a lot of context though.
She wants a top down enforcement of policy to root out bad behavior. Completely reasonable in a govt, business, or religion that has leadership that is stable for the most part for years at a time. This is not the case for AA. Most groups that meet on a given day are simply the people in driving range that want to chat and work on themselves a bit in some quick group talk therapy. The membership is informal so as not to put of the reticent. That might sound sus, but these are people that constantly refuse help, easily accessible help sometimes. People change groups, join multiple, join none but attend many, and a manner of things.
Its like asking America as a whole to do better with allowing pdf files to victimize children. Yes, but its not like anyone’s encouraging it… and if anyone is a creep we watch out for it and warn people when necessary. Just like any group of friends in a neighborhood. Which is what we are, imo.
- Comment on Save me from going down a dark path 2 weeks ago:
I’ve never found them anywhere I’ve lived. After a quick google, it seems the main difference is the powerlessness in 1 and the higher power in 2. To me that’s just recognizing i cant stop once I start, and I cant stay stopped without help. Thats it thats all. Its not something I was taught, I’ve proven it to myself. Some people see a devil/God thing there because the culture in America in the 1930s was nominally Christian, and more observant than today.
The main benefit is I can find a meeting in almost any town, any day of the week. I feel at home in a meeting where I know everyone knows what its like to deal with addiction. I can sit down and feel ok, instead of on gaurd.
I am interested to know how low bottom cases fare in smart recovery. I mean like homeless junkies that boost for a living. 12 step recovery seems to have started from the bottom, and smart recovery from the higher bottom cases.
- Comment on Save me from going down a dark path 2 weeks ago:
Wow. Im an atheist. Im in an aa mtg room waiting for the mtg to start. No one gives me shit.
Step 2 is just accepting help. Admitting your not the one that has the all the answers. Every modern treatment ive heard of in 20 yrs either cribs aa, or eventually recommends it. Its not perfect, but I know dozens of people that are only alive because of it.
- Comment on [deleted] 2 months ago:
I feel you. Ill do something nice, like open a door and smile, then immediately turn and ignore them.
- Comment on London stabbing rates vs X posts about London crime 2 months ago:
2/3 of murders in Minneapolis MN were committed my ICE agents this year. They say they want to make us safer.
I have frequently said, I have never been helped or protected by law enforcement. I have needed their help, and received shrugs. Overall, the world is a lot safer than government would have you believe, and they only want to protect capital anyway.
- Comment on Do it for your country's debt! 2 months ago:
Im doing whatever I can to not work. My family and friends are more important to me than any job.
What can you possibly offer to me that would make that math change? Threats? There’s more of us than you buddy. There’s a reason its “eat the rich” and not tax them. We dont need you, you need us.
- Comment on Waiting mode is the best! 2 months ago:
This is every day for me as an engineer. Every day there are calls with important conversations. Its exhausting. I thought I’d be able to find a job where I could keep my head down and work, but thats not reality.
- Comment on Of course there is. 3 months ago:
Fetterman became conservative after his stroke, too.
I think it may be possible to damage the brain in a way that makes empathy harder.
- Comment on So anyway I kept posting... 4 months ago:
Its the steroids and high and shit. They say dont do any ab workouts, because they tend to get too large.
- Comment on how do respec 4 months ago:
I can starve my homeless character to death if it means a later reward, while eating a burrito wrapped in a snuggie like a burrito.
- Comment on lierally unwatchable 5 months ago:
Angry upvote of the day. Got me.
- Comment on Indiana Professor Removed From Class Over White Supremacy Lesson 5 months ago:
Nazis are whiny bitches.
- Comment on Totally 5 months ago:
That might make you feel better about being ill.
- Comment on Sounds about right 5 months ago:
My CEO told us we need to work faster. 100,000 people and he just makes that blanket statement, like we’re all naughty children for not sleeping on our office floors every night to save commute time.
Literally said he want things that take a week now, he wants done in a day, and a 1 day turn around should now be 1 hr. Did not specify what department or discipline or was referring to. We all just lazy to him.
Of course, this company has the same employees for the last like 10 CEOs. The bulk are just jaded as fuck. Every now and then I see a new hire find the company song and start playing at meetings to lick boot. Then someone pulls him aside to let him know the company was helping the Nazis with eugenics when this was being pushed, so just shut the fuck up, we dont need to be glorifying those idiots.
- Comment on Why are people using the "þ" character? 5 months ago:
Or all training data is scrubbed with a perl onliner.
- Comment on Louvre security vs CVS 5 months ago:
Sounds like a skill problem.
- Comment on [deleted] 6 months ago:
Yes we can!
Someone had to…
- Comment on Fear not, and enjoy this mere interlude to its fullest! 6 months ago:
Thanks
- Comment on Fear not, and enjoy this mere interlude to its fullest! 6 months ago:
Just had a friend die of a heart attack while working in construction with his friends. Didn’t make it to the hospital.
That’s how I want to go. Just times up one day.
- Comment on This Plastic Mr. Fantastic 6 months ago:
I recycle when convenient. I have two can the same company empties, one for trash one for recycling. I’ll fill the recycling, and overflow goes in the trash.
My wife hates it, but the amount of plastic trash that factories produce just blows consumer household recycling out of the water. There are people whose jobs include fillling a whole dumpster each shift. No comparison. Im not bending over backward to be little Dutch boy with my finger in the dam while it’s got a backhoe digging out the foundation.