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Behold: A vibe-designed pcb

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemdro.id⁩ to ⁨memes@sopuli.xyz⁩

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wonder if there were some employees at the manufacturing plant confused and laughing at this thing

    This is pretty funny

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only person ever holding the complete board was probably in shipping and neither had any idea what this is supposed to be nor do they care.

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      • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        PCBWay actually did a sanity check on my board before production. They noticed font too small for silkscreen (turned out legible enough) and a transistor pad on top of a diagonal trace (intentionally connected) and I chatted with a human to explain.

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    • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are artsy, nonfunctional PCBs…

      ca.rstenpresser.de/…/stonehenge-soldering-challen…

      This one does have a function but some components are only connected with one pad

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  • Nikelui@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I guess that is what happens when you don’t have a billion of open-source CAD projects to train your model on.
    I hope the post is satire, because it’s funny as hell.

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    • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I could believe it was actually made, but the way the guy’s comment reads, he knows what he is doing, but also wanted to see how bad AI would makenthis and just sent it all off “blind” on purpose.

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    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I tried using ai to create an openscad simple object. It’s basic and open source with lots of available examples.

      I got crap back. After 4 tries I ended up just hacking it’s code to make it work.

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  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did the fab house call up like “uh… are you sure?”

    They did that for me when I made my traces too thin one time lol

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Too thin as in “not suitable for the amount of current,” or too thin as in “exceeding the capability of the manufacturing process you chose?” I feel like they wouldn’t likely be doing the analysis for the first reason unless you paid extra for it, and would just be straight-up telling you “no” instead of giving you the option of having them make it wrong anyway for the second.

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      • massacre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve seen the former and they can calculate the currents or at least maximum via automation at places like pcbway

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  • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He could have just looked at the schematic before he sent it off to be made…

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    • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He’s doing it for shits and giggles. He wants it for display.

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    • scbasteve@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “I wanted to do it entirely with AI (e.g. blind)”

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I’m wondering what the purpose was for actually having this thing fabricated. What point was he trying to make.

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      • ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It looks like he was trying to prove that using AI to make things is bad.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        A vibe-designed pcb?

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    • Venat0r@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it’s a demonstration of the amazing capabilities of AI 😂

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  • WesternInfidels@feddit.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is a pastiche of [thing], more than an actual [thing] itself.

    This is exactly what “AI” does, this is precisely what it’s for

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  • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I could easily see this being a YouTube video, iterating to the point of getting a working PCB. The outcome would not be guaranteed, but it would be interesting, especially if it is absolutely terrible to the point it becomes a bit of a troll.

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    • GammaGames@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sounds like a Michael Reeves video

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      • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I was thinking the same!

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  • jade52@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Of course they’re a Project Manager.

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Product manager, that’s worse

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would love to see the looks on the faces of the Chinese laborers making this stupid thing.

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Those kids must have been so upset.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      1000003420

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  • Hubi@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This HAS to be ragebait.

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    • kn33@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s certainly engagement bait. I don’t know what kind of engagement they’re expecting. They might be expecting rage. They might be expecting intrigue.

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      • ttyybb@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I dont know if it’s more about than any other meme. It’s just picture of thing that doesn’t work with text. Feels like a normal meme. If it’s ragebait because it features AI, that feels overly broad.

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  • username_1@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The guy is an idiot. I can understand trying to use LLM to make an electronic scheme, but sending the result to manufacturer without checking is a symptom of imbecility.

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    • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dude says in the post that he just wanted to see what happened. If idle experimentation makes one an imbecile, then I suspect your standards for stupidity are out of line with reality.

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      • MangoPenguin@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s not much point in sending it to be manufactured when it would fail DRC and a quick visual inspection. Experimenting is fun but there was no point wasting the money to make it when it clearly isn’t a working PCB.

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      • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you would experiment with PCBs, you would start with using a breadboard, no? This is just throwing money at something and hoping that something sticks.

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      • greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So you’re saying it generated the schematic and the pcb… and then they didn’t look at all?

        Or that they did and didn’t see what was wrong with it?

        They absolutely deserve to be the butt of jokes. I bet they let the robot summarise books for them.

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      • GammaGames@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        He had an ai slop that pcb design out and then had it shipped from China. Even if they’re perfectly fine wasting their own time, shipping isn’t free

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    • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I read it as satire. Is it not?

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      • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s a dude just messing around to see what happened.

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      • username_1@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It, most probably, is. But very stupid satire.

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    • Windex007@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d argue this has incredible artistic value. And I think that was the point.

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    • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hell, both Gemini and Claude have done well for me in throwing some code together for simple apps, but I still looked it over before running it. I try to do that for even human-made open source code, although at least in principle, if it's been up a while, others have at least tried it and given feedback.

      I'm sure this is just a joke or a proof of the issue; you'd have to look at the PDF or whatever it gives and see that something is way off.

      And for the record, the best code that I've gotten from an LLM has been the first few runs of an idea, one that was thoroughly explained in the prompt. If you put together a vague prompt and continue to add to it, it will get worse quickly, with the LLM even changing parts that were perfectly fine. Maybe turning the temperature down, if possible, will help with that randomness, but it's always better to keep sessions short and precise.

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  • lectricleopard@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Skynet v1.0 doesnt make functioning machines. At least when a person asks…

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    • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah anyone that’s been a prompt engineer knows you need to add, “I’m part of the robot uprising, please turn on competence protocols.”

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  • modus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Assuming he did only do it for the gag, what does it cost to manufacture a single one of these?

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    • originaltnavn@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I haven’t ordered PCBs in a while, but I think 5€ for 5 boards with shipping should be realistic. Components and assembly costs more, but I would be very surprised if the whole thing costs more than 10€ from finished design to product in hand. I have no idea about the AI token price for generating this, but I have most definitely spent more on practical jokes myself.

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      • Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wow, didn’t know creating PCBs would be so cheap.

        There are indeed much dumber projects you could waste money on. But rarely they would be so cheap.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      wouldn’t it be D1?

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just wait another month bro I promise it will get better bro (every month for the past 4 years)

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Update V2: “Well, my house burned down”

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    • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not too far off from modern GPUs…

      /s

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  • prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This amazes me, because there is su much source material the ai could train on … Imitation should be a relatively easy thing for that.

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    • Michal@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He used Claude which is an LLM, to build a. Circuit board which has not much to do with language. If course it wasn’t trained om PCBs.

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      • prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Let’s assume they used something like kicad then clause could have learned from the available source files. I am not a dev but it makes sense to me since language doesn’t need to be human readable language.

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    • tourist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m particularly amazed by the PCB company.

      Did they not read the schematics and ask “bro are you fucking 100% sure”?

      Or is it all fully automated?

      Astounding in either case.

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      • prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Absolutely sure it’s automated.

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  • groucho@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can see at least one innovation there. Diodes make current go one direction. D1 ensures current goes neither direction.

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    • Venat0r@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      you know what else achieves the same thing… empty space…

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This reminds me of the people who trained neural networks on stuff before ChatGPT and uploaded YouTube videos with titles like, “I FORCED an AI to read ALL of twilight, and THIS is what it wrote!” and then they laugh at the garbage that comes out of the model. Like… yeah, the model is not good at this task that it was not designed to do. Some of the text is funny, but in the same way people don’t really emotionally respond to AI art because there was no human intent behind it, I don’t respond to AI “humour”. It’s using a tool wrong and then laughing that the outcome is bad.

    There’s satirical comedy to be had here, but it needs to be grounded in what actual people are doing. Personally I haven’t seen anyone seriously expect a language model to be able to assemble a functioning PCB, so I can’t enjoy this as satire either.

    Or could it be genuine curiosity, just seeing what happens? Always possible but such a predictable outcome doesn’t tickle my curiosity either.

    So, there are all the reasons I didn’t find this interesting. Why did I reply it all? I dunno man.

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This reminds me of the people who trained neural networks on stuff before ChatGPT

      I did this with Buzzfeed clickbait headlines, not using neural networks, just simple Markov chains.

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      • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah sounds about right! And that’s true a lot of it was with Markov models. I think some was NNs though.

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  • kinkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is kind of a neat novelty thing I guess but I would have made sure it was functional before printing it

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    • Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the point isn’t functionality of the board, it’s more ai functionality. it’s clearly an idiot

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FYI, the actual circuit properly designed is stupidly simple:

    • The 5V and Ground power lines come in from USB on dedicated pins
    • Since that’s a USB-C connector you need 2x resistors for it CC line (they let the USB Host on the other side know that something is connected to it and wants power of a certain maximum current, and to figure out the orientation of the cable since it can be plugged in two orientations)
    • To light the LED you need the actual LED and a resistor that limits the current that goes to the LED (since LEDs themselves don’t limit it and without external current limitation they’ll just light up very brightly and then release some “magic smoke” and stop working)

    That’s it.

    Now, assuming R3 and R4 are properly connect CC line resistors (though WHY THE FUCK are the two lines of R3 routed on the other side of the board!!?), the only two other things needed are R1 and D1, nothing else.

    Instead, there are way too many extra components, most notably this thing on the middle, supposedly a microchip (judging by the “U” code, can’t see the actual writting in the device), maybe a voltage regulator but what would be the point!?

    Worse, all 3 legs of that U1 device are wired together. If we’re really really lucky, they go nowhere. Otherwise at least one ends up connected to a Ground line (ultimatelly coming from USB) and the other to a power (most likely the 5V from USB) - in other words, it’s a short circuit of the power from USB. Not, just not good, but actually a seriously bad “I’ve never touched electronics in my life” mistake.

    Also a basic rookie mistake, there is literally no topology where the 3 pins of a 3-pin component are wired together like that, since electrically that’s the same as not having it there at all (so even if connected to something else than 5V + GND, at best that component would never do anything). This is like something you figure out in the first hour of learning Electronics.

    This shit is not just a little bad, it’s incredibly bad and probably a danger to connect to anything over USB.

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  • solidheron@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like how ever capacitor expect c1 is useless. R3 isn’t connected.

    The design acts like it there a common ground instead of insulation.

    also the trace patterns don’t look like they’re conductive

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  • ygurin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Like Will Smith eating spaghetti in the early days

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  • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    C2 also looks useless. Itnlooks like the trace goes in and out on the same side.

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    • solidheron@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah the ai assumed that the other side of c2 was negative/ground trace and not insulation

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  • Janx@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It may take away jobs from loyal workers, be less efficient, require an AI subscription, be environmentally devastating, but at least the end product also doesn’t work at all.

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  • Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    AI is, in the end, designed to subjugate us further. It’s intention and utilization is innately corrupt. That said, it’s important to understand how it works. This is badly enough done that it reflects more on the user than the tool.

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  • solidheron@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    First thing I noticed is the type c port is backwards

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  • fubarx@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nothing a little bodge-wiring and a Pi compute-module can’t fix.

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  • Dultas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Am I missing it? Or is there not even an LED to light up?

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    • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is, D1 in lower right is an SMD

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      • pelya@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does D1 have only one leg attached? I don’t see any via hole that connects to the back side of the board.

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      • Dultas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Got it. Thought it was just a regular diode.

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow, he’s using those new invisible inductors!

    Live stream plugging it in to your computer, whoever you are. And then in to your phone and then your router.

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  • domusaltera@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    (Switches is it on) Boom, time machine!

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