The absolute best breakfast in the world is square sausage and potato scones.
in all fairness italian cuisine is a relatively recent invention
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bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Donkter@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Don’t worry, it’s not a trad misogynist belief that women belong in the kitchen. It’s just a widdle bit of cute racism.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Yeah, no, Italians can’t make breakfast for shit.
Coffee and a cake does not breakfast make.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
I hate Italian breakfast. My stomach doesn’t fare well with coffee, sugar, or wheat. I skip breakfast when I’m there.
mika_mika@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
English breakfast might be considered an acceptable meal if it wasn’t served at the time of day it is.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
I mean even scrambled eggs is too much for any Italian hotel or breakfast restaurant I’ve been to. Like literally as if they made it mediocre on purpose.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 hours ago
Huh? It’s a passable breakfast, I don’t really see it being much of a lunch or dinner. Okay MAYBE lunch.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
That’s better than my Israeli coworker. Coffee and cigarette.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
British cuisine is abysmal, but Australia doesn’t even have a cuisine at all.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
But seriously i had a roast at an English friends house, have you guys ever heard of slow cooking? Braising? Grilling? Marinating? Just throwing a roast in boiling water or in the oven for an hour isnt gonna cut it
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 hours ago
I was gonna say hey, that’s what I do and mine turns out fine, then googled to see what braising means and apparently that’s what I do with my roasts.
Do you mean the brits just… Straight up boil roasts, fully submerged and without browning firat?
nialv7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
jokes aside, i’d say british cuisine is definitely taking more flak than what it deserves.
alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
A lot of you still cooking like the Germans are still flying over your heads NGL
DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
We still are, but now it’s Lufthansa, not Luftwaffe. Big difference.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 day ago
Well de are, but instead that the English read the dropped recipe books they use it as toiletpapers!
Rinox@feddit.it 13 hours ago
Maybe…
What I don’t understand is how they can be on an island, surrounded by some of the best fish in the world (including the fantastic Scottish salmon) and the only piece of fish you can find in the whole country is freaking cod with four layers of batter applied to it and fried until the only flavor you can perceive is that of mediocre burnt oil.
They make good meat dishes (roasts, meat pies), but then they pair them with the most uninspiring sides… The UK cuisine has a few good things, and they have good ingredients, but more often than not they cook them in boring ways and stop there, calling it “good enough”
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
They make good meat dishes (roasts, meat pies), but then they pair them with the most uninspiring sides…
I mean… British were always shafted by their nobility. The land wasn’t known for fruits or sweet veggies, the rent in UK paid to the landlord was relatively high, so most peasants ate pickles, chutneys or different mushed veggies as sides.
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I once read that a group of Rotterdam Housewives wrote a collective letter to their fishermen husbands, that they would abide no more then 2 days of salmon dinner a week. Maybe having an abundance of it makes it unbearable after decades. I mean, complaining about salmon dinner seams crazy to me, so who knows what you can get fed up with :)
squaresinger@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Tbh, british food is mostly just salt-deficient. Add salt to it and a lot of it tastes really good.
lobut@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
Of course it does. I grew up in the UK and it’s fun taking jabs but then you have a bunch of people who just keep doubling down as if they’re God’s gift to the kitchen.
My favourite take of theirs is always what they exclude from English food but they’ll talk about American food and include everybody else’s cuisine …
hraegsvelmir@ani.social 20 hours ago
In fairness, a lot of people will only experience or know what’s brought out as quintessential English for at holidays or other special occasions, which isn’t always the best thing there is to offer from the cuisine. It’s something else entirely if you actually go there for a couple of weeks and pay attention to all the delicious stuff you’ll eat while there.
Plus, you get plenty of weirdos from every country who seem to have Stockholm syndrome with the most bland/boring aspects of their cuisine and will wholeheartedly recommend their absolute most terrible dish as the pinnacle of their country’s cuisine. I have a coworker from Ireland who won’t touch a spice bag if his life depended on it, but will tell anyone who listens how wonderful beans on buttered brown bread is and that it should be more common everywhere.
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
What’s crazy is all the trash they talk about American food, and somehow managed to completely forget that Louisiana is in America…
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Yeah, you all definitely have… 8 or maybe 9 edible things that aren’t beer or curry.
All the same, I’d rather have a full English breakfast than 90% of French food and 98% of German food. Kidneys in cream, or raw pork crackers, or bread and cheese like they invented it or whatever.
FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Very ignorant take because everything a full English offers is also very German. This includes the pig blood which isn’t french but you probably didn’t think of that anyway.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I guess you’re not into bread, because Germans have incredible bread
Cyclist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It may not be as nuanced, but it’s pretty damn good.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Yeah their curry is awesome.
Waitasecond…
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Yeah, tikka masala is awesome. And yeah fish and chips is amazing too. It’s just that brits also have stuff like boiled roasts
crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 21 hours ago
I do believe tikka masala is British but it is funny that it’s the first thing you said because it’s also very clearly Indian
merc@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I’m not much of a fan of many traditional British dishes, and there are some things many British people seem to enjoy make me wonder about their taste buds. OTOH, Britain once had a worldwide empire, and it brought back a lot of dishes from that empire to the mainland. Indian curries are the obvious example, but there’s also Caribbean food, Chinese food, even other curries from South-East Asia.
Lenny@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
In comedy, timing is everything. This cut down TikTok ruined the joke :(
idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
idk man. I went to the UK to sample of cuisine thinking it can’t be that bad and I have mixed feeling afterwards. Like the food is edible at least.
echodot@feddit.uk 21 hours ago
What did you have because you can go to a crap pizza place in Italy.
n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
England had to utilize military force to control India to get the spices, to make the blandest food on the planet.
mika_mika@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
They sold the spices to other nations for major profit to enrich themselves. They never intended to eat said spices.
deHaga@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
Never tried English mustard or fresh horseradish sauce then?
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
British food is great. Chicken tikka, pizza, Chinese, lasagne… The list goes on.
lobut@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
In all seriousness, there’s some great British food and people get too territorial about what constitutes as what food belongs to whom.
arc99@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Definitely - foods like British / Scottish / Irish / Ulster fry, pork pies, bangers & mash, fish & chips, Sunday roast (carved meat, roast potatoes, yorkshire puds), shepherd’s pie, beef wellington to name a few. Plenty of deserts too.
A Sunday roast / carvery is basically what Americans get when they order prime rib. The cut of meat is slightly different due to different classifications but for all intents and purposes it’s a Sunday rib roast. For some bizarre reason in the US it’s regarded as fine dining with a price 4x as much as it would be for a better Sunday roast meal / carvery in a British pub. Over two decades ago I went to dine in a Lawry’s Prime Rib in Chicago - big mistake - massively overpriced for what it was.
pewpew@feddit.it 8 hours ago
I’m italian, but I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t want me in your kitchen
gmtom@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
British food is actually top tier. Tye difference with Italian food for example is Italian is quicker and easier to make, so your average person can put together a pasta dish pretty quickly as a weekday evening meal. Whereas youre not going to come home and quickly make a roast dinner or a beef wellington or a proper steak and ale pie, so instead you’ll just bang some fish fingers and chips in the oven and 20 minutes later have some perfectly good scran for while you watch EastEnders.
Riverside@reddthat.com 10 hours ago
British food is actually top tier
Stopped reading. Actually, gonna block you right after writing this message. I don’t want to know anything from you ever again lmfao.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
As a British person myself, I completely disagree that our food is anything you would call top tier.
We have some nice food (as you mentioned) but it’s the exception, rather than the rule.
As a child I was forced to eat a lot of Sunday roasts at the grandparents that were bland and anemic and mushy, with veg boiled within an inch of its life, and where the meat was the only good part. I don’t think my experience was atypical.
British food these days is getting better all the time, but mostly because modern British food is a cultural fusion of tastes and techniques from everywhere in the world, and thanks to the Internet people are actually learning how to cook. Good roasts these days have sweetly caramelised oven-roast veg with olive oil and herbs and seasonings, and are a million miles from the mush I was served as a child.
But has British food historically been good? No, it has not.
gmtom@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
As a child I was forced to eat a lot of Sunday roasts at the grandparents that were bland and anemic and mushy, with veg boiled within an inch of its life, and where the meat was the only good part
And I used to date an Indian lass who was the worst cook I’ve ever met in my life, the food she made was truly disgusting. But that doesn’t mean all Indian food is bad.
I know self-flagelation is a time honoured tradition of hours, but the whole “Britain bad” circlejerk is just getting annoying now.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
But has British food historically been good? No, it has not.
Oh boy. You should Google that, because you couldn’t be more wrong.
matlag@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Italian is quicker and easier to make
Oh no! No it is not!
If you want a real Bolognese sauce, know it needs to simmer for a looooong time, and if you’ve never had this, you never had a real Bolognese sauce! Nothing you will find pre-made in a jar will ever match the fresh one!
It’s just like pizzas: fresh made are incomparable to frozen ones.
Italian food was made “quick-and-convenient” by the food industry because it is top-tier, not because it was initially quick and convenient.
And industry italian-style food is of a much lower standard than genuine italian cuisine.AeonFelis@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
This affirms my hypothesis that the problem with British food is that they still have their nobility. France is the textbook example of the process - after they guillotined their nobles the good chefs that once served the elite had to offer their services to the general populace. But Britain? Only the nobles (or otherwise wealthy people) can have their servants at home prepare “a roast dinner or a beef wellington or a proper steak and ale pie”, while the comments have to settle for “some fish fingers and chips in the oven”.
Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 day ago
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
The cow that made that cheese should sue him for assault.
Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
A classic. For sure that’s a dope sando tho
Saryn@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
He’s Scottish though, not English
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
The Scotts will one up the English at any chance they get out of pure spite if for no other reason.
mrslt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“Relatively recent”
I’ll be sure to let the Etruscans know.
swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
Isn’t tomato native to the Americas?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Most food is.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
It’s a reference to Alberto Grandi and his theses about the origins of many popular Italian dishes that are perceived as “traditional” but did become mainstream until after WWII (and that Italian cuisine before that was much more regional and less homogeneous).
I think there’s something to those arguments, but it is worth noting that he’s not really a “food historian” as he’s often described but a professor of economics and management.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 hours ago
economics and management
The foremost things I have with every meal.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The Etruscans, famously known for their tomato sauce.
mrslt@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Yeah, all they did was form the basis for modern pasta, and cultivating the seasonings used by modern Italians. I’m sure that counts for absolutely nothing. /s
Zink@programming.dev 23 hours ago
Ahkshually, cultures all over the world have eaten crustaceans for millennia!
(I made up that fact for the sake of the punch line, no idea if accurate)
logi@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
My people would rather have starved than eat crustaceans. Lobsters were being fed to prisoners in the US until recently. People are weird.
(It was a valiant attempt)
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I have several thousands of millions of food intolerances, so I love that British simplicity
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Curry is the greatest dish of English cuisine.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What about doner kebab and garlic sauce?
Johanno@feddit.org 13 hours ago
The best German dishes are Döner, Spaghetti and Lasagne.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Fuckin schnitzel doesn’t matter or anything!?
Noodle07@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
France favorite dish is couscous
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
“Everybody get the fuck out of my way and don’t touch anything”
-Me, in the kitchen
lobut@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Seriously, you don’t enjoy cooking with a partner or family member or anything?
I actually really enjoy it. Apparently for my friends it’s like real life Overcooked levels of screaming.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 minutes ago
Oh I definitely enjoy cooking in the presence of a partner or family member
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The best chefs in the world are men.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Your mum is the best sausage handler in the world
mrslt@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Nah, they’ve just got better publicity. Gordon Ramsey couldn’t whip up a dish half as delicious as my nonna could.
QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Who would have anything against British cuisine? www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVHbWHGVYaU
Skyrmir@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I can’t agree, but I can very much understand.
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
“'ow about we add some vinegah—”
“ANDARE!”
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I agree but if you need some beans made, they will excel in that.
deHaga@feddit.uk 1 day ago
She just needs a bit of toad in the hole
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So what you’re saying is, I need to find an Italian woman! I can work with that.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Yeah, I get this sentiment. I don’t particularly like cooking, but I like cooking a lot more than what my partner prepares.