deHaga
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- Comment on We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. 1 day ago:
- Comment on Key UK Nuclear Deterrent Link Destroyed Over Yorkshire 2 days ago:
This is a last resort device. If they’re putting that up, we’ve been nuked and all the bases with Comms are gone
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 2 days ago:
Lol. I’m sorry you’re too stupid to know you’re wrong.
Keep swallowing the propaganda sheep
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 2 days ago:
Did France leave?
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 3 days ago:
That’s a service export. And the EU offered to include it in the deal but the Tories said no.
- Comment on When she French kisses you immediately after you bust a load in her mouth 3 days ago:
Was called a Swiss kiss iirc
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
Source?
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
Laws literally define what torture is. How could it be enforced otherwise? How could they create coercive techniques that avoided it being torture?
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
Torture was outlawed in the Bill of Rights in 1689.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
So it wasn’t torture, then it became torture? Seems contradictory. Perhaps you should stick to the legal definition of the time, otherwise it makes discussing the subject impossible.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
So what was it prior to the change?
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
I’m not making any attempts, desperate or otherwise. I’m just stating facts.
You are just using presentism to make your point, which is moot.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
The article is about interrogation techniques that were not torture at the time and now are.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
It’s not about what you think it means though.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
They were designed to not be torture. Coercive techniques were also discovered to be ineffective.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
Why do you think that?
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
It wasn’t though, “torture” was almost exclusively understood as extreme, direct physical violence intended to cause severe bodily injury or pain.
The techniques were developed to specifically avoid being called torture.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
They were subjected to now banned methods of torture which involve sensory deprivation, such as completely covering someone’s head with a sack and bombarding them with noise.
Those were the 5 techniques. Those SAS soldiers went through the same thing during training. Are you suggesting the British army tortured trainees?
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
It was classified as torture by the UN in 1984.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
The 5 Techniques were used for ~8 years until 1972 when they were banned.
The UN classified techniques like these as torture in 1984.
Again, please point out where I defended it.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
But incapable of understanding nuance
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
Quote me where I defended anything. It was not considered torture at the time.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
I’m not defending anything.
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 3 days ago:
Yawn
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 3 days ago:
Ok wanker
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
The 5 Techniques were standard British military interrogation methods. There was public outcry after they were used in Northern Ireland in the 70s and were then banned and made illegal.
They were then reclassified as torture by the echr in 1976. That was appealed, successfully, and classified as not torture in 1978
The UN classified them as torture in 1984.
So, the UK did not use torture to control the strait of Hormuz, but did use those techniques illegally in Northern Ireland.
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
No
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 3 days ago:
Yawn
- Comment on Billions lost to Brexit could make NHS waiting lists disappear, top economist says 3 days ago:
Feel free to point out where the UK lost 8% of its GDP
- Comment on When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz 3 days ago:
When Britain used torture to control the Strait of Hormuz
The headline is wrong. They used interrogation techniques.
