Fast heating, wipe clean, works off clean electricity, roasts me less in the summer, doesn’t care about the air coming from a window, starts the first time every time, what more could I ask for? I got this cheap plug in one and it dropkicks my installed gas stove in basically every metric.
Let us end the stovetop war with the real chanp
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heythatsprettygood@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah fast and easy to clean. What more can you want?
Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Physical knobs to turn instead of the tests of the limits of my patience that are capacitive buttons on a cooking device.
Please and thank you.
WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i guess able to cook my food and keep me warm when the power goes out.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
what more could I ask for?
Longevity. My first induction lasted 10 years. My second 3 years, my 3rd six months, my fourth weeks. I use a conventional glasstop electric now.
Allero@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Interesting. Is everything alright with your wiring/electric source? Because them dying in progressively shorter time tells this way.
Still, conventional electric is not bad.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dang, that sucks. I’m still daily using an electric stove from the 1950’s lol. I would love it if modern “environmentally friendly” appliances could last this long
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I got this cheap plug in one and it dropkicks my installed gas stove in basically every metric.
like a hot plate?
~which~ ~one~ ~my~ ~hot~ ~plate~ ~is~ ~too~ shitty ~to~ ~use~ ~my~ ~moka~ ~pot~ ~on~ ~but~ ~i~ ~have~ zero ~problems~ ~using~ ~the~ ~moka~ ~pot~ ~over~ ~gas~
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Probably because your moka pot is aluminum (or otherwise non-magnetic) so induction can’t heat it.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
The main downside is that your pots and pans need to be compatible. In particular we have a few nice small pans, like actually small, and they work exclusively on the front left burner, and need to be a bit off center. I imagine there’s something wrong with the stove or the pans, but it’s a class of issues you don’t have with resistive or gas stoves.
Schemen110676@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Basically anything you can buy now is compatible…of course that means your grandma’s pots downt work any more but all my stuff is now nearly 30 years old and works with induction.
Allero@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
There are flat induction adapters for this very purpose, look 'em up, they’re cheap. They heat from induction and then transfer the heat to anything that doesn’t support induction itself, or is too small to work on a given burner.
While it obviously defeats the efficiency gains of induction, it’s otherwise workable and can help you with everything that can’t be put straight on the stove.
Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
if i could afford an induction cooker with a bowl shaped coil to fit a wok, i’d be fully satisfied.
Allero@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Induction has just gone from “cool, but for the rich folks” to simply an undisputed king of stovetops.
Much like solar and other green technologies.
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Induction rules but the touch controls that almost always come with them can fuck right off.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
“We should put touch controls on things that are permanently greasy” -Kitchen gadget manufacturers hired by Satan’s evil twin.
Allero@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Absolutely. Luckily, there are induction hobs with knobs (I personally own one), and I hope we’ll see more of them going forward.
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
You can usually attach real knobs if you have the space (and permission)
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
We couldn’t possibly use these button things. They are secret arcane technology.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It’s like EVs. A great paradigm shift in the underlying base technology, accompanied by puzzling interface and control designs that really detract from the enjoyability of the transition.
Schemen110676@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Been for some time now.
Allero@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Was still too expensive for many parts of the world until a few years ago.
papalonian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cannot roast marshmallows OR light a joint, literally what is this used for???
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who the hell roasts marshmallows inside???
Also buy yourself a lighter
papalonian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People with proper stoves.
And I’ve got a lighter, it weighs 200lb, has four burner heads and gets my hair for me at the same time.
threeonefour@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Now I’m picturing someone putting a marshmallow on a spoon and holding a lighter under it to roast it.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Induction is anti smoking propaganda. They want to take away our freedoms!
TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Upvote for funny.
Man, so many people have zero sense of humor.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Justice for jiffy pop!
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I bet if you made the induction coils stronger, it could work on aluminum
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Within two weeks my gas stove and oven are getting chucked out the door. Replaced with an induction stove top and a convection/steam oven/air fryer.
yakko@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Make one the size of my 12" skillet so it doesn’t create a neat little zone of heat surrounded by sticky cold pan, and I’m all yours. Haven’t seen one yet.
noxypaws@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
not quite 12" but the biggest element on mine would probably be great with your skillet (if its the right metal)
TheseusNow@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have a GE profile. That has the various sized burners. The odd part is the matching microwave got rid of many touch buttons and replaced it with a knob, which actually works well, but the stove has no knobs. Stove touch buttons work fairly well though, added bonus is you can lock the controls with a lock button. When looking my favorite choices came from ge profile and bosch.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Consider one of those where you can combine the burners/zones
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I love the idea. I hate the shitty unreliable overly digital implementation. Induction came around after everything was already well on the way to enshittification. Components are sized to last through warranty, not to last 20 or 30 years.
My gas stove, which has certainly many issues, hasn’t got a chip in it, and with occasional replacement of igniters will likely outlast me and my kids, unless we choose to replace it.
MacaqueAndCheese@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
My neighbor’s daughter bought an induction stove for her best friend who happens to be a trans dwarf porn star. She goes by Munchkin Cock Jenny and let me tell you she can cook a hell of a good meal on that thing. She hosted us all for Thanksgiving breakfast last year and made Vienna sausages with coconut rice and strawberry rhubarb pie, all mixed together on the stovetop. None of it for hot because she just placed it all on the surface but at least she tried. She died of meningitis about 4 hours after we left which is unfortunate because whoever had to deal with her estate had to clean the stovetop.
Varesti@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Deyre goin to take muh gas stowve
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Electric coils suck. They never make even contact with the pan, creating hot and cold spots.
Electric radiant is better. But it’s limited by lower burner output.
Gas solves both problems, but creates an additional problem that it measurably reduces indoor air quality with combustion byproducts.
The simple easy solution to that SHOULD be require a vent hood, and wire it so the fan automatically turns on low when the burners are lit. But that seems to require more brain power than the construction industry (or regulators) possess.Induction solves all problems. No combustion byproducts, even heat distribution, high output.
There’s also a company called Impulse that makes an induction cooktop with a 3 kWh battery inside- crank that guy up to 11 and it’ll dump 10 kilowatts into one burner so you can boil a pot of water in under a minute. Put in contrast, most gas and electric burners put out 2-4 kW. Obviously with only 3kWh it can’t sustain that output continually and once the battery is dead you’re left with whatever your electric circuit is good for, but that’s still plenty to get a pot boiling.
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Is there a ‘gib hot’ supremacy gang? Ive litteraly made eggs in a hot stone just give me some temperature ill figure out the rest.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Gas baby!
rowansprig@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Sometimes I have to go back to cooking on a ceramic or gas at someone else’s house and it always annoys me how long boiling water takes.
stumu415@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You won’t be able to make any proper Asian stir fry on this shit. You need huge heat for a short period of time that only a gas stove can do. My parents in law have a gas stove that looks and works like a jet fighter afterburner, including the sound. No induction here mate.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I do love the induction stove at my gf’s house, but the issue with induction is you basically have to throw out 75% of your cookware and go get the special heavy-bottomed pans and pots for the heating to be effective and even. Most everything I have that’s decades old and salvaged from yard sales and the like does NOT work on induction like, at all.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Induction is the best cooktop tech for daily use, and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on. I live in a rented place and cannot simply get rid of our gas range. However, it has a piece of kitchen counter placed on top of it and is only in use for its oven, which thankfully is electric. On top of the counter though? An induction hob.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Which bits on, who can say. Perhaps none of it is on, perhaps resistive touch screen controls are a bad idea on the surface that might get wet. Who can say.
Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is the part where Lemmy’s demographics leaves little room for others to speak without accused of an ecological terrorist.
Induction stoves aren’t compatible with a lot of ethnic cuisines. Chinese and Mexican food require gas stoves for a lot of applications like woks and charring vegetables. Curved induction stoves are not widely and affordably available in the US, and landlords would never bother installing specialty stoves like this. Having to get a separate gas stove to put on already limited counter space and rendering regular stoves useless is frustrating. The oven broiler is nowhere as ergonomic and effective as a stove top broiler and it’s back breaking having to duck and constantly check because you cannot see what you are charring. This is just two of many other ethnic cuisines that are impacted by this.
Please let people, especially female minorities who are disproportionately impacted by this, keep one of our last vestiges of cultural ties. If it comes to ecological impact, there are so many other aspects in life down to the very phone you are using and clothing on your back that can be improved upon.
Lemmy, for better or for worse, is a very tech-bro environment. I know that this makes matters like cooking seemingly trivial and gas stoves to be in excess. But for many of us, the meals we cook are the last things we hold on to after our languages and national identity fade away. Meals made without an open flame are simply not the same because many techniques cannot be done without it.
TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can’t justify it. I run one burner on my gas stove for about seven minutes a day. That’s it. It’s paid for and gas is dirt cheap here. Seven minutes a day gas fume exposure is not what will end up killing me.
Sure, if you cook all day, reducing big pots of stock for hours at a time, etc., then it makes sense. But, it’s not for everyone.
theneverfox@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Sounds pretty convectional to me
Zink@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
It’s funny because while I didn’t comment on the previous post about the superior burner location, I do happen to have an induction range that has the big coil in the front right. So I get to have a side in both conflicts!
Seriously though, induction is the undisputed winner. We’ve had this thing for years, and whatever price premium I paid to move up to a lower priced induction model was totally worth it.
That big “burner” plus my big nitrided carbon steel pan is my go-to now to start like 80% of things I cook on the stove. Not counting heating up water in the kettle daily, though. That uses the small burner behind the big one. Then there are two mediums on the left. Or maybe it’s small, two large, and one XL.
sompreno@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’ve had too many induction stove tops turn off too many times by moving a pan over the on button for this to be true
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Induction is fast, but actually cooking is a PITA because mine at least adjusts power output via PWMing the whole output with a very slow square wave: i.e. it alternates between full on and completely off. Yes that’s also what thermostats do on electric stoves with resistive elements, but those have extra thermal mass and thermal lag that smoothes out the overall heat output.
clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have a hybrid cooktop. one burner is radiant, the other is induction. this solves all my problems.
I also regularly buy bar keepers friend to clean the pots as stuff stuck outside those pots tend to get fiercely stuck when not using LPG.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Y’all motherfuckers arguing about burners like the best food isn’t cooked with woodsmoke
AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
I wanted capacitive but couldn’t, where I live that spike in electricity is simply not sustainable, power wise
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I stopped using an induction burner after having some issues with it, but I think that may have just been user error. I only ever use burners for boiling water for tea these days, so maybe I should give it another try.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Induction can have the crown as soon as appliance designers stop giving them infuriating capacitive touch controls that are a fundamentally bad input method for a fucking stove.
Give them knobs. The UI nerd in me is so angry at the slow death of competent design as its cannibalized by marketing and branding people, and the penny pinchers they serve.
herrvogel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The problem is not with the controls fundamentally, it’s with the low quality controls. A glass touch surface has merit: it’s extremely easy to clean and keep clean, you’re never gonna get boiling pasta juice in there and corrode the contacts or whatever. It’s just that the manufacturers use the worst, most pathetic sensors that stop working as soon as the surface gets slightly moist. My own induction stovetop is pretty bad in that regard, but my parents’ significantly more expensive one is perfectly fine. The control part of the glass surface never gets very hot either.
Point is, it’s pretty good when done right. But they often don’t do it right.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
The problem is give me a damned knob.
The highest quality touchscreen on earth that works perfectly not matter what is on my hands and never makes a mistake would still be shittier than a simple fucking knob.
schnokobaer@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Knobs belong on the front of the stove, under the ledge of the range/counter where you can’t spill anything on anyway.
Induction already wins cleanliness by a mile through not burning in whatever lands on the cooktop. No need to make knobs worse to make them easier to clean, when they don’t get dirty in the first place.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
No, touch screens are always shit compared to knobs. You might have even worse touch screens but that’s just like even worse!
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
But I never want to try and find the right place to touch a flat surface when I’m in the middle of basting meat and my pot is boiling over.
Analog style dials (they’re digital now) are easy to reach without looking, which keeps your focus on the task. Muscle memory is super important for flow.
lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Knobs are definitely better for a stove. Even the best capacitive touch sensor won’t work if you’ve got an oven mitt on, or you need to make a quick adjustment without taking your eyes off the food
ivan@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I’ve seen really rough “analogue” control designs. Like, an oven with knobs and touch buttons, so you can set temperature more easily with a knob, but some more specific settings are set through touch input. Overall idea sounds good, until you try do something with it - then it quickly becomes a convoluted mess, because rather than separately choosing which directions to heat, manufacturers decided to make a list of all possible combinations to scroll through. 🌝
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do your parents have cats? Ours have turned the stove on during the night by walking across it. Now we have to “lock” the controls every night, and then “hold for 3 seconds” before we can unlock. The more sensitive the controls, the worse this all gets.
Knobs, dude. If you will it it is no dream.
olafurp@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Easy to wipe true, but what if instead of a capacitor button we can have a magnetic control board with magnetic push keys?
It would be fully removable, attachment magnet snaps it into place and then it’s essentially a button with a magnet physically travelling up and down.
The I really hate the capacitor buttons since if you get pasta that boils over it fucks with the buttons pretty fast and the “off button” is just not good for quickly turning it off when flooded. It’s same for pan cooking sauce that splashes a bit, wiping the surface moist rag can have mixed results, paper towels become a requirement. There’s just a lot to not like.
A standard knob, as long as it’s not designed by an idiot, can be very simple by having a piece of heat resistant non corrosive material stuck out of the stove top and the button having a 1cm gap under it. Just make the pin chonky and you can drop a pan on it without anything happening. Lift the button off and it becomes still very easy to clean.
fonix232@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Some newer stoves now put the control panel separate, and you can e.g. build it into the edge of the countertop.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
does the good one have like a ridge or something so you have more tactile response than
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BussyCat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Rented a place with the capacitive touch style and my cat kept turning on the stove… luckily with it being induction it meant it didn’t get hot as long as a pan wasn’t on there but holy shit could that be really dangerous
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I was going to comment, that the touch control defenders, definitely do not own cats.
BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Mine has knobs. It’s fucking great. It’s Bora professional 3.0
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
that’s showing up as an extractor fan on my computer
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah that would be nice ngl
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
got your knob right here bb.
Seriously though, I’m with you. I have an induction, and it’s fantastic, but any stupid moisture gets on it, and the controls don’t work until you wipe it off, and the things spazzes out at you, beeping incessantly.
toynbee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My wife once dropped a metal bottle cap on the capacitive controls for our oven.
I don’t know anything about oven software, but so far as I could tell, it caused the entire thing to basically reboot.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
🎵a good induction stove has a knob on one side🎵 just doesn’t scan right tho
Allero@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I hunted specifically for an induction stove with knobs, and couldn’t be happier. It’s how all induction stoves should be.
Btw, it’s a secondhand Gorenje stove, and it only costed me $50. An absolute bargain.
eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
There are induction stove tops with normal knobs, thankfully. Neff also makes ones with a magnetic puck, which I also find very intuitive and easy to use.
Phunter@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
My induction range has knobs! Even the oven setting is a knob.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hoooolllllynshit you nailed the head right on the hammer!
I cannot stand the controls on my induction cooktop. Still fundamentally the right choice of tech but it is a PITA to actually use.
silver@das-eck.haus 2 weeks ago
One of my friends just bought an obscenely expensive stove bc it was the only one they could find that was induction with knobs
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I made the switch from gas to induction this year and had no issue finding models that had physical knobs.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Omg yes
ebc@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
My Samsung range has exactly that. And yeah, it’s very nice.
Defectus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Check out impulse labs. I think you’re gonna like those knobs
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They exist
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
But knobless means the shareholders get an extra 0.00001¤ per unit!
Won’t someone think of the shareholders!
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
But didn’t you know that all old design is bad design, and you’re supposed to laugh at people with knobs on their stove?