We’re gatekeeping science now?
This is just the equivalent of “oh you like <band>, name all their albums”. It’s dumb and you don’t need to be an expert to appreciate something.
I love science
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Kushan@lemmy.world 3 days ago
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 days ago
there should be a gate keep barrier. there is a big difference between a scientist with a degree who works in science, and a science enthusiast.
there’s nothing wrong in the second one, I just think we shouldn’t mix em too much, less we end up with “expert” without qualifications (were already here).
that being said
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Meaningless distinction. There are many fields of science an expert in one is not an expert in others.
gladflag@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
It me. I love science but I’m definitely a YouTube learner and terrible at calc.
It’s all so fascinating though! Keep it up scientists!
antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
4chan-tier childish elitism in Facebook-tier packaging 👍
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Oh you like Space?
Name every celestial body.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 days ago
your mom
notreallyhere@lemmy.world 3 days ago
calculus isn’t science
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Physics, engineering, statistics, economics, and mathematically modeling in general aren’t science? Big claim there, bud.
dmention7@midwest.social 3 days ago
Calculus is a tool used in science, absolutely. But calculus itself is not science, in the same way that a chisel is not woodworking.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Engineering is not science. It uses science to make decisions.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Well it’s a tool, and a science in itself too, I guess, if you go into advanced fronter mathematics
notreallyhere@lemmy.world 3 days ago
you forgot Art.
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 days ago
If there’s advanced calculus, there’s presumably also regular calculus, so at what point does calculus start to be advanced?
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
For me, the leap to multivariate calculus gave me a lot of trouble.
Differential equations was doable but no longer fun for me, either.
It was a combination of multivariate calculus, linear algebra, and differential equations where I just wasn’t having fun with math anymore. Those subjects represented the end of pure math education for me, and later engineering classes requiring knowledge in those were also not a ton of fun. Went from a self-described math and science guy to just…not describing myself in that way anymore.
socsa@piefed.social 2 days ago
Honestly the standard curriculum was fine. It was when you got into trying to apply those skills to deciphering academic literature in a meaningful way as part of a broader career which got tricky.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Is it just that it becomes so difficult/technical at that point?
Magnum@infosec.pub 3 days ago
When I calc the ulus
Redacted@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
The start of calculus is relatively easy and intuitive, ive heard there are some schools that teach the basics of it to children at the same time they normally learn algebra.
Then theres the real bastard calculus that can and will make grown adults cry.
josephc@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
I can think of a few potential cut offs, taking differential calculus to be basic.
Integral calculus. Multivariate calculus. Differential equations. Epsilon-Lamba calculus.
But that’s just my opinion.
1984@lemmy.world 3 days ago
When there is more letters than numbers. When the letters change to weird shapes (integral). When there are multiple successive brackets. I dunno, I am not a mathematician.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
From my experience, books titled “advanced calculus” cover the fundamentals in a lot more detail, with focus on δ-ε proofs. Usually, “advanced calculus” comes between elementary calculus (Calc 1-3 in a US institution) and real analysis.
silasmariner@programming.dev 3 days ago
Loved complex analysis. Poles for days. Such weird maths
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 3 days ago
After three semesters
rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Probably around analysis and abstract algebra which come after multi variate calculus and differential equations.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
More than one variable.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
why is the anglophone sphere calling every slightly complex phenomenon science? science is a method, AFAIK, that produces reliable knowledge over time.
for example how is the sun itself science? sure, there’s knowledge to be made about composition, dynamics etc., but when this knowledge gets widely shared without the goal of expanding existing knowledge for the goal of education or entertainment, hasn’t this long left the field of science?
for science, why aren’t you saying you love edutainment?
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
I have a similar issue with the word research. Do your own research - wtf. Research is either standing in the lab and actually experimenting, or conducting (clinical) studies, or at the very least an extensive literature research that even for a paper takes days (more like weeks and months) and a lot of knowledge on the field as well as methods for literature research in this sphere to be conducted properly. I absolutely don’t want you to do your own research about my field of study. You probably have a job and don’t want to go to university for 6 years to understand my niche.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
At school, topics are divided into Arts, Science and Humanities. The majority of Bachelor’s degrees are titled Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science.
Using the word “Science” colloquially to describe anything that isn’t the Arts or Humanities is entirely consistent.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
German has Geistes- (Spirit/Mind) Sciences and Natural Sciences.
I don’t see how the imprecision of calling it simply Science is valid though, given that it’s just a lukewarm repost of the age old quantitative vs qualitative research war.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Math is the language of the universe. Unfortunately I’m dyslexic.
I can understand complicated molecular interactions but throw numbers in my face and I’m the dumbest person in the room.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Dyscalculia is the word you’re looking for
halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
It’s fun that I had no idea this word existed, and this is now the second Lemmy comment today that’s used it.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What a beautifully fitting name for it
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 3 days ago
They just like looking at sciences tits. To be honest so do I
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mammary studies are a very advanced field. There are so many cup sizes and don’t get me started on how they relate to other measurements. And then there’s nipples, how do they even work?
Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
I said I love science, not that I know it or can practice it, they’re different things.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Do we have an /imverysmart yet?
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 days ago
I like the calculus part, actually. The fact that we can make equations for EVERYTHING and simplify the abstract into something consumable, like using the points and curvature of a wing to estimate drag coefficient in a couple lines of math instead of relying solely on countless vectors and fluid dynamics.
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
And then we have things that remap what seems one-dimension into abstract spaces, so that we can draw new conclusions.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
The calculus is unironically the best part
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I love the math that I understand XD
The math subjects that require a lot of prerequisite knowledge are usually what I avoid. Without a project in mind, it becomes a huge waste of time to try to understand.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 days ago
Well what kind of hentai is scientific? 🤷♂️
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’m sure there’s something out there. Rule 34 and all that.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 days ago
Large_Hard-on_Collider.jpg
Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 days ago
There’s ISS rule 34 content, after all.
yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah let’s get rid of science communication altogether
I am sure everything will be just fine
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
ScieComm or Edutainment?
Gust@piefed.social 3 days ago
Im not familiar with kurzegesagt or Rick and Morty hentai but I’m pretty sure that was the expression on my face for most of the runtime of Interstellar
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
That’s because your frigid heart doesn’t understand the science of looooove
Gust@piefed.social 3 days ago
It’s true. Friends call me Snow Miser, whatever I touch turns to snow in my clutch. Interstellar was still awful though lol. I might have enjoyed it like any other scifi if it wasn’t specifically advertised as a scientifically accurate portrayal of space travel, but that is how it was advertised and accurate it was not
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Basically me when I quit Computer Science for Film & TV
I did a year then realized I’d rather make the next Interstellar than code for NASA
Zacryon@feddit.org 2 days ago
Do what fills your heart and belly.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
that sounds nsfl
vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Also, everyone who’s claiming they love science should read both Kuhn and Feyerabend. Kinda eye-opening shit
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I hate how we center physics and it’s use of mathematical tools as the right way of doing science. Many, if not all sciences today, leverage mathmatical tools to create models. But Darwin, as far as I recall, didn’t use math at all. A whole host of sciences don’t approach their problems through mathematically described laws or even statistical models. Earth sciences, botany, anatomy, organic chemistry, ethnography, and archelogy come to mind.
marcos@lemmy.world 3 days ago
But Darwin, as far as I recall, didn’t use math at all.
You should take a look at modern evolution theories.
A whole host of sciences don’t approach their problems through mathematically described laws or even statistical models.
“Models” are something mathematical by definition. A lot of sciences have very simple models that people can handle without formalism. They are still mathematical, even if you don’t need to calculate things.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m not denying that modern evolutionary theories use math and I think it’s important, but that in many sciences, math isn’t the focus like it is in physics. A lot of good science can be done without math. Darwin did good science without math.
To be very clear, science doesn’t need math. We use math as a tool to accurately describe phememona and relationships with math.
I don’t what you are saying about models being mathematical by definition eben if people can handle it. I don’t see how the model of the cell is mathematical. Models require relationships and not mathematics to describe those relationships.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
As long as I don’t have to deal with matrices, I’m cool.
ftbd@feddit.org 1 day ago
Granted. You should brush up on your tensor calculus, though.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Kursgesagt Hentai? Where?
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Unfortunately, it’s not just Kursgesagt Hentai.
It only Kursgesagt and Rick and Morty Hentai.
~Actually, curiosity got the better of me and after taking a brief look, there is Kursgesagt Hentai. I just really don’t want to interact with it anymore than I already have.~
cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 days ago
We don’t like Kurzgesagt??
clot27@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Yup, they are a billionaire propaganda outlet, ig funded by bill gates. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGfBV4I8DQI&t=138s
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
sigh Great, another format I have to wait for other apps to support if I want to share the memes. And webp was finally getting to the point where it wasn’t annoying the fuck out of me.
clot27@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
? This is just jpg
felsiq@piefed.zip 3 days ago
Some homeservers convert uploaded images automatically to save space iirc
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
When I try to use the built-in share feature, it’s sharing it as a .avif file. Wonder if it’s specific to the app I’m using (Voyager). Something I’ve only noticed happening recently.
Either way, good content at least!
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Quoting veritasium and other YouTubers with some hyper specific never actually seen examples and declaring the entire field fraudulent.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Do Scott Manely videos count as science, or science?
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I love calculus !!!
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 3 days ago
This is why i left the game
TheBat@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Dumb meme. You can enjoy something without dedication or being good at it.
I like watching F1 highlights (not even full race lmao) and only vehicle I can drive is a bicycle. 🤷♂️
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 days ago
Don’t sell yourself short.
If you can ride a bicycle, you can probably handle a tricycle.
TheBat@lemmy.world 3 days ago
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W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
OP has a point. Star Wars is not science fiction, it’s religious fantasy.
It’s definitely not engineering otherwise they wouldn’t use 12 ft thick catwalks in space.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Watching races becomes way better if one plays some sim racing games and gets into adjusting the car for the track. Racing is a rare sport that one can somewhat experience themselves without athletic training.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Sure, because baseball fans are the physical elite of the sports world. Playing a video game is nothing like actual track racing.