Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd
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EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Taldan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fight fire with fire. Apparently it’s the only thing conservatives will pay attention to
So many of them are convinced all gun violence is coming from the left, and at this point I’m ready to just let them have their delusions. What are they going to do about it? Implement gun control? Please do
EldenLord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
His last words
He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied “Too many” He was corrected, the number is 5. He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700) He asked back: “Counting or not counting gang violence?” and got shot
theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
His last word was “violence”.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
A sniper with an innate sense of comedic timing?
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If violence isn’t working, you’re not using enough violence.
shot; dies
Narrator:
the violence worked.
ceenote@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I always said “You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out.”
And it was literally the last thing he ever did.
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He died doing what he loved
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂
Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I mean ideally it would’ve been at his time of birth
Cruel@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I mean, most gang activity comes from young black men, but that does not mean it’s racist to talk about it. I think talking about whether to include or exclude “gang violence” from a conversation about mass shootings is appropriate and not offensive in the slightest.
jimmux@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn’t count for some reason?
I guess we’ll never know.
bigfondue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a common talking point among the right that there aren’t really that many mass shootings in America if you exclude gang violence. Y’know, which is done by and only effects those people
Deme@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Pointing out that gangs do a lot of violence is an attempt to shift blame onto the demographic groups which are overrepresented in gangs due to socioeconomic reasons (systemic racism).
abir_v@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Given who he was, probably the latter as a to-him socially acceptable racist dog whistle.
ceenote@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Using one minority as a scapegoat for gun violence wasn’t working, so he was switching to a different minority.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a deflection technique. The intention was to not answer or address the question at all, but to shift to another topic he could more easily use to manipulate his audience. If you’ve ever watched him “debate” he was a master of deflection.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
As others mentioned, “gang violence” is generally a euphemism for non white, especially poor, people. I used to listen to Knowledge Fight(stopped after election not because of the boys, but didn’t want to hear Jones gloat) and during several shootings that involved black victims Jones dismissed it as gang violence.
One case I recall was a shooting in a school in GA that he was spinning some other way, until he found out the school was primarily black and the victim (who survived iirc) was black. He then just stated the kid was in a gang with no proof and dismissed the story.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just some good old racism
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It was more anti-trans hate mongering. 2 or 3 trans shooters out of 5700 is nothing. If you can whittle down the number of “mass shootings” to just a handful of incidents, can make it seem like trans people are vastly over-represented among school shooters.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He was obviously arguing that skin colour minorities were doing any shooting that trans Americans weren’t. Because his goal in life was to make people feel like they belonged - by vilifying out groups. And then monetize that shit.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
our gangs of forcefemme communists are very trans and very violent, yes
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.
I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They’re guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Seriously? We’re living in a movie.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It gets dumber…there was a school shooting today, 3 kids dead, 1 state over from this.
EldenLord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Reality displayed an immaculate sense of poetic justice today.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Does anyone have video of this? (This conversation, not the shooty part) All the news media are quoting this while referring to a video but not showing it.
AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
They’re /very/ intertwined. I don’t recommend looking for it unless you want trauma
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I watched the close up video and didn’t find it too traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Almost like the one asking the questions was in on it. I hope they never find them.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Golden Earring - Twilight Zone for the lyrics
“Where am I to go now that I’ve gone too far? Soon, you will come to know when the bullet hits the bone”
Utah Saints - Something Good, for the hilarious, to me, coincidence between the song title, the band name and the location of the event
*NSYNC - Bye Bye Bye, need I say more
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
U2 - Bullet the Blue Sky
You plant a demon seed
You raise a flower of fireHugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Filter - Hey Man, Nice Shot… how could I forget. Still have the CD somewhere, the singer is the brother of the T-1000.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Man, I haven’t thought about Heaven 17 in decades. My favorite lyric of theirs was “brothers, sisters, we don’t need that fascist groove thing”. I remember liking them in the '80s but thinking that their political stance was pretty over the top and that things weren’t really that bad in the world. How wrong I was.
Fun fact: the band took their name from a fictional group that was referenced in A Clockwork Orange.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
LOL. Meanwhile Glen Beck is crying his eyes out on TV.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
I hate how some are trying to spin this as “he was killed just for having different opinions” like no, he didn’t just have “different opinions” that’s grossly oversimplifying things, he advocated for the genocide in Gaza, said kids being shot in school is “worth it” because “god given rights” (which version of the Bible had assault rifles in it?) ridiculed disabled people in his circles, and said if his 9 year old daughter got raped he wouldn’t allow her to have an abortion
All while in a position of authority and power with influence over a significant portion of people. How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
For a white ethnostate, obviously.
Ghis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If they’re “just words” then why are they so butthurt over our words? It’s just words when I say “Charlie Kirk deserved what he got”. What’s the big deal???
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Advocating for genocide in Gaza isn’t even a different opinion. It’s the same opinion as democratic party leadership.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This person is correct.
Knightfox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why. I’m not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that’s what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don’t care except when it’s their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why.
Julius Streicher was also a human being. He was hanged at Nuremberg for the same kind of hate-mongering that Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of crimes against humanity.
bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Maybe it’s time to start fighting fot our liberties, instead of feeling bad for the guys taking them away.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, someone who spread as much hate as he did, doesn’t deserve sympathy.
I hope the bullet is ok.
DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No he wasn’t a human being, he was a fascist. The two are mutually exclusive. The world is a better place now that he’s not in it and that’s worth celebrating.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whatever. He was fucking gloating ever since the MAGAts took over, while others are being violently oppressed for “not qualifying” to be “American”.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hate how some are trying to spin this as “he was killed just for having different opinions”
…like who?
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I dearly regret Charlies tragic passing.
When I initially heard the news I was hoping he was in for a half a century of quadriplegia with destroyed vocal cords.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yep. I’ve already said this like three times on other platforms: it’s ok to be happy about this. He gave you permission. Twice, actually. The “it’s worth sacrificing a person every now and then if it means we get to have guns” and this empathy thing.
This is maybe the only time it’s ok to be happy someone died.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is maybe the only time it’s ok to be happy someone died.
There was also that one guy who shot himself in an underground bunker in Berlin. Gun violence and suicide are never OK but sometimes they are.
MBech@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
Every single time a fascist dies, is a time to celebrate. And yes, I mean absolutely every single fucking time.
Technotica@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You could also be happy in Kim Jon Un dies… maybe Putin?
I always wonder where the cut off is, how evil does someone have to be for society to accept their death with gladness?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It’s what he would have wanted.
MisterOwl@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The world is just a little better today.
Overall it still sucks, but it’s nice to know good things still happen once in a while.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m savoring it, as things are bound to get worse. The right produces too many directed nutters.
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I firmly believe that there are people who make the world better by dying.
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The problem with this is that it will be used to increase violence against non-white cis males.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I beleive all life is sacred and there is always opportunity for reform.
But at the end of the day we are all just meatbags with ideas and actions that back them.
If our ideas and actions undermine the greater good then its hard to argue that much is lost when the person that brings their ideology to life is themselves lost.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let’s also not forget how giddy he was when Paul pelosi was nearly killed over his politics.
BlueZen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
so does this mean that any maggot who says they feel for his family or friends or colleagues, are really just liberal cucks in disguise?
PenguinMage@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sure enough. Probably on soros payroll too.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I remember every single time someone they didn’t like died. They would rejoice in the most vile manner imaginable. Fuck them.
I am betting that Kirk’s killer was a fellow conservative who found him too soft and not hard right enough.
Or… maybe it was the same guy who killed Brian Thompson… because Luigi is innocent.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Elbow1240@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Maybe it wasn't murder. Maybe it was just an accident. There were probably lots of guns on campus, after all open carry is legal on campus' in UT, as I understand. Let's not prejudge the guy, he deserved a fair trial.
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He was permanently deported to the afterlife.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I wonder if we will get a new wave of users as reddit has another ban wave for people laughing at this cunts neck exploding.
Octavio@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
OK, honestly I’m not going to celebrate a murder. But nothing can stop me from appreciating the heck out of the irony.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ghis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They didn’t seem to care when it was Paul Pelosi, or the two democratic politicians that were assassinated in their homes.
AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not wearing a helmet, bullet-proof vest and all and arguing against gun control.
He was asking to be shot…
/s obvsly ffs
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I’d like to ask a general question that I’m not entirely sure I can give enough context for.
When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?
Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.
When did we start caring about high schooler’s opinions on a national level?
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, rest in piss, but my celebration is mildly stunted by the fact that this is a dangerous thing to normalize and this is a massive notch in that direction given how huge of a public figure he was and the nature of his assassination being so public.
Of course, the right is largely responsible for that normalization, and Charlie Kirk’s death is actually on people like Charlie Kirk’s very hands. However, for me its just the consequences and the dark future that this seems to push us further into.
Hopefully the right fails to capitalize on his death effectively and we move onto largely forgetting about the piece of shit.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel bad for this guys family but becoming your own meme for getting assassinated is crazy. This whole thing has been insane.
Geodad@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I had someone try to tell me I was stooping to his level with my dark humor memes.
I told them, I can’t do that because I’m not 6ft under.
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Here’s the frustration and why this should not be celebrated:
Charlie Kirk spent years dehumanizing people, making lives measurably worse, and profiting from hatred. The cosmic irony of him being shot while calling trans people dangerous and minimizing gun violence feels like the universe delivering a punchline he wrote himself. There’s a cathartic release in seeing someone who seemed untouchable suddenly silenced by the very violence he dismissed.
But that catharsis is blinding, vile, and destructive. Every celebration post, every “rest in piss” meme, every “fucked around and found out” joke is already being screenshot and weaponized. The worst people imaginable, those eager to exploit violence, are being handed exactly what they want: supposed proof that “they were right,” justification for crackdowns, and, most dangerously, a martyr whose blood sanctifies every awful thing he stood for.
Celebration may feel like a dunk on fascism, but in reality it accelerates it. It may feel like strength, but it exposes a movement so strategically bankrupt that it mistakes emotional satisfaction for political victory. Kirk alive was one influencer among many; Kirk dead is a rallying cry that will outlive us all.
The rage at what he represented is justified. But celebrating his death guarantees those very ideas will flourish. American democracy is dying, and a gravedigger falling into the hole is no victory when it only deepens the grave.
His ideas needed to be defeated. Instead, they’ve been immortalized.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is genuinely the first time in a long time that the news has brought me genuine joy. I don’t give a fuck, but I am angry at him and people like him for being so shitty that it makes me feel joy at their deaths. This is on you bitch.
Katrisia@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
He had shitty opinions, we know. I won’t follow them. I will have empathy and I will not celebrate his death. Still, I think the world’s population improved with one less hateful person around.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
stardustsystem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
No really, if he was a nicer guy this probably wouldn’t have happened.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m not convinced it did happen. His last words were literally making light of gun violence. If I read this in a book, I’d say it was too on-the-nose
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
We have no clue how long the shooter was zeroed in. It’s entirely possible they chose the funniest moments to pull the trigger.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This timeline’s scriptwriter has been phoning it in for years.
errer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Seemed like it was more in the neck to me
Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure” - Clarence Darrow