Ensign_Crab
@Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
- Comment on Anon hates reddit 11 hours ago:
On 4chan.
- Comment on You know which voice to use. We all know which voice to use. 6 days ago:
The skeevy teacher from Azumanga Daioh?
- Comment on Bernie Sanders says that if AI makes us so productive, we should get a 4-day work week 1 week ago:
It means if you want more labor than can be accommodated within a 2 day work week, you should hire more people.
- Comment on Bernie Sanders says that if AI makes us so productive, we should get a 4-day work week 1 week ago:
Once we have decent wealth distribution, we can make an informed decision on whether we want to reduce our total productivity in order to have more free time.
And since that will have its own set of prerequisites that centrists will work with republicans to block, we’ll keep on as we are, with productivity outpacing wages forever.
- Comment on Bernie Sanders says that if AI makes us so productive, we should get a 4-day work week 1 week ago:
Briefly, we can collectively choose to work four, three, or even two days a week, despite seeing a decrease in overall productivity.
Or we can collectively choose to never shorten the work week while productivity continues to outpace wages forever. Which is what republicans and centrist democrats both want.
- Comment on Bernie Sanders says that if AI makes us so productive, we should get a 4-day work week 1 week ago:
Because people deserve more time to be people. Not everything has to serve the Holy Economy.
- Comment on Current events 1 week ago:
Roquefort.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 1 week ago:
The problem is that my country gets as far as taking away the bench.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 1 week ago:
They (you) get the benefit of not having to look at poor people.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 1 week ago:
They don’t use the benches, but lord do they complain if they encounter a homeless person.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
Yeah. the problem of posh people being confronted with the icky poors.
- Comment on What do you think the solution to selling progressive politics to young men is ? 2 weeks ago:
And the great thing is, even if that’s the full extent of their promises, democrats don’t keep their promises.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
So hostile architecture is unnecessary.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
You forgot racist. Everything you don’t like is racist.
I did not. Though now I suspect you hear it a lot.
Keep raging at the people trying to solve the problem while you do nothing.
hostile architecture is not a solution.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
I live in a country where if you don’t have a job the government will pay for your rent and utilities, indefinitely.
Well, good for you. I live in a country that doesn’t. I live in a country where your perspective is classist and callous.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
I would prefer shelter and no anti-homeless architecture. But I get that you prefer anti-homeless architecture and no shelter, since we’re being uncharitable.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
Instead the message is "no child should ever sleep on the streets. We made it impossible to sleep on this bench because it’s for people we want here.
- Comment on I'm gonna mute this one 2 weeks ago:
Imagine trying to spin anti-homeless architecture as pro-homeless.
- Comment on What do you think the solution to selling progressive politics to young men is ? 2 weeks ago:
Do what you say you’re going to do when you get elected. Quit finding just enough no votes and making excuses. You promise, we vote, you don’t deliver. Then you ask “why does no one want to vote for us? We promised to be marginally less terrible than our opponents!”
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
You keep acting like saying “Elon Musk is a Nazi” is some kind of sacred password that proves moral clarity, when in fact it just shows you’ve got your rhetorical hammer and now everything’s a fascist-shaped nail. I don’t need to prove to you that I see Musk for exactly what he is—he’s a megalomaniacal, racist, transphobic, apartheid-raised billionaire whose social media platform has become a fascist pipeline and who pals around with actual white supremacists. You don’t get points for calling that out. That’s the bare minimum. The difference is I’m not so lost in self-righteousness that I think calling him names solves anything.
That’s a lot of words to avoid four little letters.
You don’t trust me to oppose fascists because I don’t use your exact tone or terms.
I don’t trust you to oppose fascists because you’re advocating working with a nazi and refusing to call him one.
- Comment on How often do you take him for a walk? 3 weeks ago:
That kid got into a gorilla enclosure. He could have figured out the clasp on a leash.
- Comment on The perfect accessory 3 weeks ago:
Almost perfect. The water in the toilets should not be blue.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
You keep mistaking anger for clarity.
If you don’t have the clarity to admit that elon musk is a nazi, don’t tell anyone else about clarity.
And I get it—that rage you’re carrying is earned.
By people you are defending.
You’ve been watching a party that claims to fight for working people repeatedly fold in the name of bipartisanship, inaction, and big donor interests. You’ve watched policies you care about gutted, leaders you believe in sidelined, and warmongers handed the keys. You’re right to be pissed.
And you’re wrong to defend them.
But you’re swinging wildly and hitting everything in sight—including people who aren’t your enemies.
nazis are my enemies.
You’re doing exactly what you accuse centrist Democrats of doing: handing power to the right by making the left ungovernable.
Well maybe elon will fix that for you.
I’m not defending Musk, and I never have.
You’re defending democrats who are eager to do whatever he wants for money. That’s a distinction without much of a difference.
If I could snap my fingers and vaporize his empire of tech-bro fascism tomorrow, I would.
I doubt it.
But you don’t get rid of oligarchs like Musk by pretending they don’t exist, or by refusing to engage with the systems they’ve embedded themselves in.
musk just pissed off his only major customer. democrats do not need to provide him a replacement. Without access to the government teat, he will fail.
You claim I have no objection to Democratic sellouts, but I’ve literally listed examples where I agree with you: the public option betrayal, the Manchin theater, the Biden admin’s groveling to Netanyahu, and yes, the DCCC backing centrists over insurgents like Cisneros. Those were all shameful, and I said so. You think I’m blind to this. I’m not.
And now that all of those are faits accompli, you’ve come around. This latest thing with elon will be the wrong decision after the fact too, once the party has moved on to something inexplicably worse.
I’m just not ready to throw every Democrat into the same trash fire because they’re not all equally culpable.
Of course they’re not. But the ones who are should not be allowed to continue unopposed. Others will get the idea that they can get away with working for elon the nazi instead of the American people. Just like they worked for netanyahu. If it doesn’t stop with support for a man who delivered nazi salutes, will it ever?
It’s the kind of kneejerk purity politics that makes the left easy to ignore.
Until after the election, when they’re to blame for all the world’s ills, in order to justify moving to the right. In this case, into the arms of a literal nazi.
Not because it’s wrong in its goals, but because it can’t tell the difference between an enemy, an imperfect ally, and a potential pressure point.
netanyahu was the previous imperfect ally. manchin before him. The party did everything both men wanted. elon will be no different.
You say I should start applying pressure. I am. I back the AOCs and Jayapals. I donate, organize, and raise hell when Biden kisses Netanyahu’s ring or when the DNC backs scumbags like Cuellar.
I would ask if there are any examples of this in your comment history, but conveniently:
But I also don’t confuse shouting into a comment thread with changing the world.
I live in texas. Shouting into a comment thread is all I have at my disposal. My rep is a republican. Both of my senators are republicans. It’s republicans all the way up. So when I see democrats, cast their lots with a nazi at the end of decades of betrayal, what else am I to do?
They didn’t betray you.
And as long as your strategy is just typing “nazi” in all caps at anyone who doesn’t fit your purity checklist, you’re playing right into the hands of the people consolidating actual power.
And bleating “pUrItY” at anyone with standards is how centrists consolidate that power with republicans.
You want to be part of the fight? Then be part of it. But know the difference between sabotage and dissent.
Right. sabotage is anything to the left of elon musk.
Because right now, you’re throwing stones at the people you’ll need beside you if we ever want to break the machine instead of just rage at it.
The people I need are jumping all over themselves to defend people who want to work with nazis and never progressives. It’s your machine.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
You’re absolutely right to distrust power.
You’re absolutely wrong to defend musk and his newfound toadies.
You should be suspicious when politicians start cozying up to billionaires, especially ones like Musk who openly enable fascist rhetoric and build platforms for it.
So should you. But you’re not.
But what you’re doing here isn’t just holding people accountable—you’re flattening nuance and turning every complex strategic move into evidence of moral failure.
And you’re turning naked simping for a literal nazi into a “complex strategic move.” What hogwash.
You say I’m defending collaboration with Nazis. I’m not.
You’re doing absolutely nothing else.
I’m describing the reality that when someone like Musk controls huge pieces of national infrastructure—satellites, EV production, social media, and contracts with NASA and the Pentagon—governments can’t just ignore him.
Yeah, democrats want his sweet sweet nazi money and will collaborate with him to get it.
That sucks.
I’ve heard this when the party’s VP candidate killed the public option. I’ve heard this about every last time manchin “worked with” republicans to make sure campaign promises got broken. I’ve heard this about the unconditional weapons sales for netanyahu’s genocide. The current toadyism for musk is part of a pattern of behavior from a party that does nothing but suck.
If Democrats had any real power to dismantle Musk’s influence tomorrow, I’d be cheering.
Democrats are always conveniently powerless when they’re doing what centrists want. I don’t want a nazi becoming the de facto leader of the democratic party. Like manchin and netanyahu before him.
But you don’t dismantle entrenched oligarchic power by refusing to engage with it at all.
Engagement in democrats’ case means “kiss ass, take money, do as instructed.” elon is a nazi. You can’t appease nazis.
That’s not moral courage
Democrats possess no moral courage whatsoever. They just want nazi money.
that’s political impotence dressed up as righteousness.
After decades of moving to the right for no gain, you expect this to be any different? I doubt it. Frankly, I think you welcome nazis like elon because they’re not progressives.
You’re also setting up this neat little trap where no matter what Democrats do, they’re evil.
No. There are a precious few democrats doing the right thing right now. David Hogg is being ousted for doing the right thing. AOC is doing the right thing. The party censured Jayapal for doing the right thing. The party protects centrist incumbents in the primaries like they did for coathanger cuellar, but don’t protect progressives like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman.
If they talk to Musk, they’re “quislings.”
Given centrists’ lengthy track record of selling us all out for donations, yes.
If they don’t and he continues to spread fascism unchecked, you’ll say they failed to do anything.
Tell me, what legislation have democrats even attempted to obstruct during the Trump administration? There has been one filibuster, and it wasn’t to stop any particular legislation or appointee. Right now, musk is a pile of nazi money without a party to give it to.
If they compromise on a bill, they’re sellouts.
When they killed the public option without a single republican vote and then promised to revisit it but didn’t, they were sellouts. When they bailed out the banks without any accountability whatsoever, they were sellouts. When they worked with republicans to block the minimum wage increase, they were sellouts. When they worked under president manchin to kill Build Back Better one piece at a time, they were sellouts. In all cases, if the democratic caucus had voted with the unity they demand of the electorate, we would be in a better place. Not only that, if the caucus had voted with the unity they demand of the electorate, they could have killed the filibuster they have yet to use against the slightest whim of the trump administration, and instead voted in the lockstep they demand from voters to codify Roe and Obergefell. In NONE of these cases were they being steamrolled by republicans. In ALL of these cases, democrats had the seats but conveniently not the votes.
If they refuse to compromise and the GOP steamrolls them, you’ll call them ineffective.
The GOP didn’t steamroll them on the minimum wage. The GOP had turncoats willing to work with them for money.
There’s no outcome where you’d say, “Yeah, that was principled and strategic.”
There is no outcome where you’ll admit they’re sellouts. Just a south park cable company “that sucks.”
That tells me this isn’t really about policy, it’s about purity.
There is no objection to anything centrist democrats do you won’t twig as “purity.”
And I get it—being betrayed over and over makes you stop believing in any middle ground.
Middle ground? That thing democrats keep chasing to the right?
But writing off every engagement as proof of corruption is a recipe for endless cynicism and zero progress.
There is space in the party for elon musk but not David Hogg, Cori Bush, or Jamaal Bowman. They censure Jayapal and work with a nazi.
And by the way, I didn’t say I “trust” establishment Democrats.
Did you have to?
I said they’re navigating a system where guys like Musk have been allowed to accumulate dangerous levels of influence. I don’t trust them to resist selling out unless they’re pushed—hard—by people who don’t buy into the “let’s all be polite and civil” nonsense. We need pressure. We need protest.
Then start. And quit having a greater problem with opposition to nazis than you do with nazis.
But we also need clarity about what we’re actually fighting, and it isn’t that Bob Garcia said a few sentences to Elon Musk while also calling him a right-wing extremist.
The only thing your party fights is progressives.
Rage is justified, but if you want to build something better, you’ve got to aim it precisely. Otherwise, you’re just another person screaming betrayal while the real fascists laugh and consolidate power.
I guess you do find it funny. Enjoy the power you’re consolidating with musk.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
Seems we have moved on from discussing the article.
The article is just the latest in a pattern of rightward movement by the party.
Back on topic though, the entire Dem party is not kissing Elon’s ass. There was one in the article that did, but that’s it.
There were two by my count, plus the founder of centrist democrats’ anti-progressive “welcomefest” get together
It should be zero. It’s shameful that none of the people who are jumping at the chance to work with a nazi weren’t immediately censured or kicked out of the party. But it’s not like they’re someone truly nefarious like David Hogg.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
Look, I get the centrist impulse to browbeat anyone to your left. I get that you see a rich nazi’s money. I get that you want his money by any means, and know the easiest way to get it is to collaborate, but if you’re gonna collaborate with nazis, you’d best get used to being compared to vidkun. Democrats don’t take an evil person’s money and then be like “sucker!” and run off with it and work contrary to that person’s interests. They stay bought. Just like they did with netanyahu and his genocide. That must not happen again here.
No one’s defending collaboration with fascists—we’re pointing out that trying to get a powerful oligarch with control over key infrastructure to behave responsibly is not the same as praising or submitting to him.
You’re defending collaboration with nazis in particular. You’re claiming that trying to get a wealthy nazi to give you donations is responsibility instead of selling out to a nazi.
During the last election, I watched democrats move to the right on immigration. I watched them throw trans people under the bus. They did this in a stupid attempt to get republicans to vote for them. republicans didn’t vote for them. republicans know how to shout “sucker!” and run off. And now I’m watching democrats look at a literal hitler heilin’ nazi and be like “oh now look, he’s not so bad! We can work with him to get what we (will come to) want!” Against all evidence, you trust establishment democrats to maintain integrity and not sell us all out. I don’t. They have no integrity to abandon.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
Just don’t throw others under the same judgement due to belonging to the same label, i.e. Dems.
For the last quarter of the biden administration, I saw the establishment wing of the democratic party openly and happily violate US law in order to play arms dealer for netanyahu’s genocide.
Nazis like elon must be opposed, democrats just spent a solid year demonstrating that they will absolutely go along with the worst of humanity’s every whim if it means thy get campaign donations. They must not do that with nazis in an environment in which we already have one nazi party. I will make no excuses for them and will scream abuse at their worthless nazi asses until my lungs no longer function.
Collaborationism must not be allowed to spread.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
I’m not the one defending quislings.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
Well, you keep calling me a rightwinger for saying that democrats shouldn’t be kissing up to a fucking nazi.
You’re fine with nazis but not criticism of quislings.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 weeks ago:
Ask your god elon, then.