I might put on my goin out overalls and check these things out. Ain’t my fault I’m a true american with pockets full of wet clay. Takes a pressure washer to get that kind out mud out from under my fingernails.
Local Walmart just installed cameras in the aisles…
Submitted 2 weeks ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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SillyDude@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Archer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let those among us who haven’t accidentally packed our pockets with wet clay cast the first clod
tal@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I mean, that Walmart already is going to have had cameras all over the roof.
Snapz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dude… Are you really oblivious to the difference? These are for facial recognition, eye tracking and surveillance pricing through RFID price tags.
Ghoelian@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
The only part of that not really possible with ceiling cameras is eye tracking, you don’t need eye-level cameras for the other two.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Find the peanut butter aisle. Then make all the aisles peanut butter aisles.
QueenFern@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Looks like a used gum disposal unit to me
stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Have you ever seen the security room at a Walmart? If you ever thought you weren’t on camera in a Walmart, you were. It’s like a casino.
That particular camera looks like it is in a locking case, usually for hight theft items. The bizarre thing here is why the extra security on Sugar in the Raw and what looks like maybe Stevia.
DillDough@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Not a locked case, it’s a normal shelf…also not a normal camera and not for security.
Do you get it now?
remotedev@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Being earnest here, I don’t. What’s the difference between a normal camera and a security camera? If it’s used for surge pricing, absolutely it’s terrible. But if it’s being used for shoplifting like cameras have been used in stores for forever, I’m not grasping the big deal of these ones. Is it just the potential of them using it for bad (which honestly they probably will)? There’s cameras all over aisles, checkout areas already
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This is for dynamic pricing
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Walmart shoppers will put up with anything
HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I mean, yeah.
Wal-Mart caters to people who will buy cheaper things no matter what, whether that’s because they’re desperate or disinterested in how that impacts their world.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Many are in food deserts and have no other choice.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
The cameras beep at you too
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Perfect, draw my attention so I remember to fuck with it
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know someone directly involved with this work/these changes and Walmart absolutely shares this stuff with law enforcement basically freely
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I suddenly feel the need to grab my largest tipped sharpie and a mask and walk around Walmart for the first time in years
turdburglar@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
pro-tip: use paint pen.
sharpie comes of with alcohol.
paint comes off with scraping and scratching cheap plastic camera lenses.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
What the actual fuck
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My first thoughts exactly word for word.
The closest store to my house is Walmart, so unfortunately I go there pretty regularly. They just rennovated. I’m going to have to see if they did this.
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thoroughly illegal in the EU. Luckily Walmart doesn’t operate there.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It wasn’t luck. They tried and failed, on account of how many of their normal practices are illegal in the EU.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Part of it was illegal, part of it was that their way of doing business pushed people away. Suppliers didn’t want to negotiate with Walmart and workers generally weren’t desperate to work there.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I still have rather fond memories of shopping at Walmart in Germany. Tho I was a child and it always was more of an experience than a chore. Then Wexit happened and the world’s gone to shit ever since
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m interested, what makes it illegal?
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
(likely) face identification and other surveillance of regular customers, if any data at all is created by that and analyzed or stored by anything that is a grave GDPR violation. Surveillance cameras for larger areas can be allowed but only to record for cases of legitimate control, no automated analysis nor data transfer to god knows where.
Personalised pricing is illegal as well in a supermarket. Digital price tags are allowed (and common) but there are clear rules how often prices are allowed to change. I’d have to research it myself but I think not more than once a day.
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not yet, at least. It seems that they operate almost everywhere else though
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They actually tried it in the EU but failed hard.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sometimes I pick up a shirt and then decide I don’t want it, so I just leave it on any old shelf. I’m not very neat about it, and it might hang over the edge a bit. Oops.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do we have a “boringdystopia” instance on Lemmy yet?
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Never really got the appeal of walmart, they have only had some I wanted maybe twice over the last 20 years.
Oh well, yet another reason to never go somehwere.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not sure how many shop there because it appeals to them
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
only by necessity for me. the next cheapest store is on the other side of town with at leat a couple dozen traffic lights and intersections between us.
sanitation@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
For many people it’s nearest grocery
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For many smaller towns, it’s the store. And for larger towns, it’s still a 1-shop stop. If you’re busy and need to grab gym shorts, a hammer, groceries, and a new router you can do it all in one place on the way home from.work.
Folstar@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
It must take a lot of compute to have AI review all those cameras and calculate surge pricing. I wonder where they will find it?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The cost of AI to do all this will be higher than any profits they could possibly make, but the managers who came up with this shot already committed and in the end they can just put that cost on the consumers anyway
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One man’s cost is another man’s profit.
At some point, Walmart execs sitting on a pile of NVIDIA stock won’t see this as a loss for them. It will just become an excuse to trim spending - on healthcare, on wages, on wholesale costs, on maintenance of their fleets and facilities - everywhere that isn’t AI.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You vastly underestimate how cheap and prevalent that sort of AI stuff already is. The upfront costs are high, and there’s usually some sort of ongoing support cost, but it’s been much cheaper than people since ~2020 and it’s only been getting more prevalent and miniaturized.
I’d encourage you to peruse everseen.com/solutions for some dystopian horrorshow. That is one of the companies that Kroger and Walmart ‘leverage their capabilities from’.
There’s also the b2b quid pro quo investment schemes already mentioned.
And also that retail insurers are one of the major ones helping to ‘drive adoption of these innovative ermergent technologies’ as both the retailers and insurance are constantly trying to
scam each other for profit‘maximize the potential earnings from their synergistic, mutually beneficial, relationship’.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Pretty soon they’ll just assign a drone to follow each customer. Well, not EACH customer, that would be weird.
Just the minorities.
taiyang@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My God that camera is way too easy to “accidentally” tamper with, lol. At the very least, my kids greese covered finger tips while I stroll by.
radiofreebc@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
How many different scenarios can you put together for a company putting cameras on shelves in a store?
What’s to guess about, here?
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Probably billed as anti theft. Likely some form of surge pricing
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Loss (shoplifting) prevention
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People are stealing sugar?
I’m not a scientist or anything, but that seems like really bad news
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I’m guessing the cameras track your gaze, and they use that to decide what people are most interested in.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Seems easier to just look at how many were rung up at the till…
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Funny thing is, the regional grocer in my area has cameras up all over the entrances and parking lot. In my situation, there is less surveillance at Walmart than the “other guy”.
Surge pricing, here we come!
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Kroger stores are especially bad
daggermoon@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
This is why they’re losing to Amazon.
sanitation@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
No it’s because their website sucks
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oops, my greasy hands just smeared over the lens!
… Whoops, this one too!
sunsofold@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Metal scouring pads are only a few aisles over. Aren’t they worried about people being able to so easily reach their expensive equipment?
mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
was gonna ask, what aisle is electrical tape in?
modus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Silly me. Better take it down and toss it in the toilet.
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
If I ever end up back in a Walmart and see these, I’m definitely setting something in front of them.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pinch of thermite should do it
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I was thinking a box of cereal, but I like the cut of your jib!
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Oh, these Cheerios are too bulky! I guess I’ll just place them here, right in front of this electronic eyeball. Pure coincidence.
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh I got nail polish on my finger accidentally. Good place to wipe it off.
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Accidentally.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Sharpies are just a few aisles over
meathorse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Right next to the white-out
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Why is that infuriating. Are you trying to shoplift and you have a harder time now?
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
If you look too mong at granola you take a 10% increase on Coca-Cola.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
It will be impressive if they can surge price in a store. You could do it right now for delivery apps, but I don’t know how you can do it in the store.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Walk around with mask and reflective lenses.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Interesting.
If it’s only a couple, could be surveillance. If they’re all over the place, they’re probably doing stock checking or shopper heuristics. They’re probably local AI just reporting back either where people are stopping, what they’re picking or if the shelves need attn.
If you wanted surveillance you’re better off with 4k zone cameras in the ceiling, cover the store with a couple dozen wide angle
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have a feeling there have been cameras for a while. They just want you to see them
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Mine has had these, but only on locked cabinets, for years.
I don’t know if they review 'em tho. Got sick and fucking tired of needing an employee to open the cabinent with the dog treats (most of the time, nobody even comes no matter how long I wait or how many time I press the button for service) so I got my own universal barrel key that opens their cabinets and just take what I need. Sometimes, I even pay for it.
CombatWombat@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
Tell me more about how one procures a universal barrel key.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
covertinstruments.com/…/covert-tubular-lock-pick
turdburglar@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
yes, my friend would also like to have this information
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
You go to your favorite search engine and enter “universal barrel key.”
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It looks kind of like a screwdriver. Ask The Lockpicking Lawyer.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You could just find an associate. From my experience they will help right away
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
They still gotta find the ONE employee who has the friggin keys.