I might put on my goin out overalls and check these things out. Ain’t my fault I’m a true american with pockets full of wet clay. Takes a pressure washer to get that kind out mud out from under my fingernails.
Local Walmart just installed cameras in the aisles…
Submitted 1 month ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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SillyDude@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Archer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Let those among us who haven’t accidentally packed our pockets with wet clay cast the first clod
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
I mean, that Walmart already is going to have had cameras all over the roof.
Snapz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Dude… Are you really oblivious to the difference? These are for facial recognition, eye tracking and surveillance pricing through RFID price tags.
Ghoelian@piefed.social 1 month ago
The only part of that not really possible with ceiling cameras is eye tracking, you don’t need eye-level cameras for the other two.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Find the peanut butter aisle. Then make all the aisles peanut butter aisles.
QueenFern@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Looks like a used gum disposal unit to me
stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Have you ever seen the security room at a Walmart? If you ever thought you weren’t on camera in a Walmart, you were. It’s like a casino.
That particular camera looks like it is in a locking case, usually for hight theft items. The bizarre thing here is why the extra security on Sugar in the Raw and what looks like maybe Stevia.
DillDough@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Not a locked case, it’s a normal shelf…also not a normal camera and not for security.
Do you get it now?
remotedev@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Being earnest here, I don’t. What’s the difference between a normal camera and a security camera? If it’s used for surge pricing, absolutely it’s terrible. But if it’s being used for shoplifting like cameras have been used in stores for forever, I’m not grasping the big deal of these ones. Is it just the potential of them using it for bad (which honestly they probably will)? There’s cameras all over aisles, checkout areas already
Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
This is for dynamic pricing
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 month ago
Walmart shoppers will put up with anything
HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean, yeah.
Wal-Mart caters to people who will buy cheaper things no matter what, whether that’s because they’re desperate or disinterested in how that impacts their world.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Many are in food deserts and have no other choice.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 month ago
The cameras beep at you too
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Perfect, draw my attention so I remember to fuck with it
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I know someone directly involved with this work/these changes and Walmart absolutely shares this stuff with law enforcement basically freely
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I suddenly feel the need to grab my largest tipped sharpie and a mask and walk around Walmart for the first time in years
turdburglar@piefed.social 1 month ago
pro-tip: use paint pen.
sharpie comes of with alcohol.
paint comes off with scraping and scratching cheap plastic camera lenses.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 month ago
What the actual fuck
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My first thoughts exactly word for word.
The closest store to my house is Walmart, so unfortunately I go there pretty regularly. They just rennovated. I’m going to have to see if they did this.
Jiral@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Thoroughly illegal in the EU. Luckily Walmart doesn’t operate there.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It wasn’t luck. They tried and failed, on account of how many of their normal practices are illegal in the EU.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Part of it was illegal, part of it was that their way of doing business pushed people away. Suppliers didn’t want to negotiate with Walmart and workers generally weren’t desperate to work there.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 1 month ago
I still have rather fond memories of shopping at Walmart in Germany. Tho I was a child and it always was more of an experience than a chore. Then Wexit happened and the world’s gone to shit ever since
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’m interested, what makes it illegal?
Jiral@lemmy.world 1 month ago
(likely) face identification and other surveillance of regular customers, if any data at all is created by that and analyzed or stored by anything that is a grave GDPR violation. Surveillance cameras for larger areas can be allowed but only to record for cases of legitimate control, no automated analysis nor data transfer to god knows where.
Personalised pricing is illegal as well in a supermarket. Digital price tags are allowed (and common) but there are clear rules how often prices are allowed to change. I’d have to research it myself but I think not more than once a day.
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not yet, at least. It seems that they operate almost everywhere else though
Jiral@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They actually tried it in the EU but failed hard.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sometimes I pick up a shirt and then decide I don’t want it, so I just leave it on any old shelf. I’m not very neat about it, and it might hang over the edge a bit. Oops.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Do we have a “boringdystopia” instance on Lemmy yet?
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Never really got the appeal of walmart, they have only had some I wanted maybe twice over the last 20 years.
Oh well, yet another reason to never go somehwere.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m not sure how many shop there because it appeals to them
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 month ago
only by necessity for me. the next cheapest store is on the other side of town with at leat a couple dozen traffic lights and intersections between us.
sanitation@lemmy.today 1 month ago
For many people it’s nearest grocery
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
For many smaller towns, it’s the store. And for larger towns, it’s still a 1-shop stop. If you’re busy and need to grab gym shorts, a hammer, groceries, and a new router you can do it all in one place on the way home from.work.
Folstar@lemmus.org 1 month ago
It must take a lot of compute to have AI review all those cameras and calculate surge pricing. I wonder where they will find it?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
The cost of AI to do all this will be higher than any profits they could possibly make, but the managers who came up with this shot already committed and in the end they can just put that cost on the consumers anyway
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 month ago
One man’s cost is another man’s profit.
At some point, Walmart execs sitting on a pile of NVIDIA stock won’t see this as a loss for them. It will just become an excuse to trim spending - on healthcare, on wages, on wholesale costs, on maintenance of their fleets and facilities - everywhere that isn’t AI.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You vastly underestimate how cheap and prevalent that sort of AI stuff already is. The upfront costs are high, and there’s usually some sort of ongoing support cost, but it’s been much cheaper than people since ~2020 and it’s only been getting more prevalent and miniaturized.
I’d encourage you to peruse everseen.com/solutions for some dystopian horrorshow. That is one of the companies that Kroger and Walmart ‘leverage their capabilities from’.
There’s also the b2b quid pro quo investment schemes already mentioned.
And also that retail insurers are one of the major ones helping to ‘drive adoption of these innovative ermergent technologies’ as both the retailers and insurance are constantly trying to
scam each other for profit‘maximize the potential earnings from their synergistic, mutually beneficial, relationship’.
taiyang@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My God that camera is way too easy to “accidentally” tamper with, lol. At the very least, my kids greese covered finger tips while I stroll by.
radiofreebc@lemmy.world 1 month ago
[deleted]Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
How many different scenarios can you put together for a company putting cameras on shelves in a store?
What’s to guess about, here?
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Probably billed as anti theft. Likely some form of surge pricing
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Loss (shoplifting) prevention
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Pretty soon they’ll just assign a drone to follow each customer. Well, not EACH customer, that would be weird.
Just the minorities.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 month ago
People are stealing sugar?
I’m not a scientist or anything, but that seems like really bad news
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 month ago
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 1 month ago
I’m guessing the cameras track your gaze, and they use that to decide what people are most interested in.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Seems easier to just look at how many were rung up at the till…
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Funny thing is, the regional grocer in my area has cameras up all over the entrances and parking lot. In my situation, there is less surveillance at Walmart than the “other guy”.
Surge pricing, here we come!
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 month ago
Kroger stores are especially bad
daggermoon@piefed.world 1 month ago
This is why they’re losing to Amazon.
sanitation@lemmy.today 1 month ago
No it’s because their website sucks
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Oops, my greasy hands just smeared over the lens!
… Whoops, this one too!
sunsofold@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Metal scouring pads are only a few aisles over. Aren’t they worried about people being able to so easily reach their expensive equipment?
mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 month ago
was gonna ask, what aisle is electrical tape in?
modus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Silly me. Better take it down and toss it in the toilet.
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 month ago
If I ever end up back in a Walmart and see these, I’m definitely setting something in front of them.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pinch of thermite should do it
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 month ago
I was thinking a box of cereal, but I like the cut of your jib!
altphoto@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Oh, these Cheerios are too bulky! I guess I’ll just place them here, right in front of this electronic eyeball. Pure coincidence.
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Oh I got nail polish on my finger accidentally. Good place to wipe it off.
altphoto@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Accidentally.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Sharpies are just a few aisles over
meathorse@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Right next to the white-out
titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Why is that infuriating. Are you trying to shoplift and you have a harder time now?
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 month ago
If you look too mong at granola you take a 10% increase on Coca-Cola.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
It will be impressive if they can surge price in a store. You could do it right now for delivery apps, but I don’t know how you can do it in the store.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Walk around with mask and reflective lenses.
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Interesting.
If it’s only a couple, could be surveillance. If they’re all over the place, they’re probably doing stock checking or shopper heuristics. They’re probably local AI just reporting back either where people are stopping, what they’re picking or if the shelves need attn.
If you wanted surveillance you’re better off with 4k zone cameras in the ceiling, cover the store with a couple dozen wide angle
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I have a feeling there have been cameras for a while. They just want you to see them
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 month ago
Mine has had these, but only on locked cabinets, for years.
I don’t know if they review 'em tho. Got sick and fucking tired of needing an employee to open the cabinent with the dog treats (most of the time, nobody even comes no matter how long I wait or how many time I press the button for service) so I got my own universal barrel key that opens their cabinets and just take what I need. Sometimes, I even pay for it.
CombatWombat@feddit.online 1 month ago
Tell me more about how one procures a universal barrel key.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
covertinstruments.com/…/covert-tubular-lock-pick
turdburglar@piefed.social 1 month ago
yes, my friend would also like to have this information
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 month ago
You go to your favorite search engine and enter “universal barrel key.”
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It looks kind of like a screwdriver. Ask The Lockpicking Lawyer.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
You could just find an associate. From my experience they will help right away
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 month ago
They still gotta find the ONE employee who has the friggin keys.