I quit my first real job on 9/11. I watched the buildings go down, walked into the deli I hated working at and said, âlife is too short.â Which for an 18 year old me was a pretty big move.
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chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I had a job in Colorado at a small 20-30 person company, including two devout muslim immigrant men from Afghanistan. OMG, they were freaking the fuck out, thinking people were going to come drag them out of the office and murder them in the parking lot. Everybody had their back and tried to calm them down, but boy, they were so stressed out.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Americans went nuts after 9/11. It was weird how all of a sudden, it was ok to be openly racist. Up to then, I knew older people were racist, but were being shamed into keeping quiet and it was fading from younger generations, but 9/11 set all that back. They were right to be scared.
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I mean, if they were in Texas they probably have a reason to worry
Kennystillalive@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
May I ask, did you manage to find something that made you happy?
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Oh hell yeah. I walked over to the pizza shop, got a job, and Iâve been doing pizza ever since (well, almost, I did repo for a while, too). Itâs the best gig in the world. Thanks for asking, friend :)
Seimhe@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I only know Seven Eleven. Had no idea they had competitors.
BoosBeau@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Wait till you hear about Seven Twelve.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
But what about 6 7
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Well, at least I made a lot of money on OT with that oneâŠ
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
what i kinda donât get about this whole thing ⊠is that kinda, in other countries (look at the middle east), they get bombed daily and none of you bats an eye (well, some do, but still, this has been going on for 50 years and i hardly ever hear anyone talking about it). meanwhile you get one terrorist attack and everyoneâs supposed to lose their minds over this.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The US never gets attacked. Thereâs an ally to the north, an ally to the south, and two big fucking oceans to the east and west. So, when it does happen, itâs a pretty big deal.
Napster153@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Control the media, control the mind.
Itâs not about the actual casualties and destruction, itâs about how you can spin it into your favour.
American Democracy got suckered for over 20 years to put oligarchs in power.
Fizz@lemmy.nz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
People outside the US dont care or arenât expected to care about 9/11. Americans are loud and own the platforms so it seems like the entire world but its really just them treating the entire internet like an American fourm.
pipe01@programming.dev âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I mean, itâs a terrorist attack involving multiple simultaneous plane hijacks crashing into the center of one of the most populated cities in the world. Not that we should rank terrorism, butâŠ
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
yeah and i find it weird how little attention is given to the symbolic targets ⊠the World Trade Center was largely involved in establishing cross-country businesses ⊠in other words, meddling within other countryâs internal economics (often to the dismay of the local population). by far not all people in the world wanted free trade. so they attacked the free trade center ⊠and that was a symbol against free trade, free trade being an unwanted thing by many other people around the globe because it meant the disruption of native economic systems, etc.
and yet that fact that free trade is not globally understood as something universally good, and that maybe there should be less of it, ⊠i donât think that iâve ever heard any newspaper talk about that.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs just so blown up because it hurt american pride; of the self-appointed
war lordsworld police.starlinguk@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I lost 14 colleagues and none of them were American. Was the response overblown? Yes. But itâs called the âWorldâ Trade center for a reason.
Tiger_Man_@szmer.info âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
racism i think. that time the âsupreme raceâ got attacked
phoenixz@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
America has been punching and kicking countless countries since WWII, causing thousands if not millions of deaths (Iraqi âfreedomâ alone caused like 300.000 Iraqi deaths IIRC) and the second that somebody punches back and gives them a bloody nose its all crying and needing to make 50 movies about the heroes of that day, and of course it was immediately used to implement the âpatriotâ act (hint, it has shit to do with patriotism and everything with making the IS an autocratic state)
I get it, of course. For the individuals that died or were injured that day, itâs a tragedy, but as a country? They completely deserved it and much, much more
moakley@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Do you think maybe thereâs a way to phrase that where youâre not saying that 2,000 innocent people deserved to die?
cmbabul@slrpnk.net âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Youâre spot on, and that said tragedy was exploited to do even more cruelty makes it even worse
bitjunkie@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
What it was used to justify is unforgivable, but please remember that a population of ~350m people is not a monolith. Our government is garbage, but many of us were aware of what was being done in the name of ânational securityâ and protesting /voting against it at the time.
dismay3915@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
*One terrorost attack from your own government
FluidBeef@quokk.au âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
âWhyâs it called 9/11 if it happened in September though?â
amorangi@lemmy.nz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs named after their emergency number. Lots of people dialed 911 that day.
lauha@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
No, there used to be 9/11 buildings there. Donât know about the two missing ones. Two buildings were attackes. No thereâs 7/11
BigDiction@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Iâve just barely survived a date format discussion and this is the first comment I read after. God dammit
iocase@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Thatâs quite the euphemism for what many would call a hand-to-hand edged metal disagreement (in my experience at least. Also metric vs US customary metric)
davidgro@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Because it happened on 2001-09-11 in the One True Date Format.
howrar@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The country sobered up and decided to write dates correctly, only to relapse the very next day.
smeenz@lemmy.nz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Why, what happened on the 9th of November?
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I dunno, but remember, remember the fifth of November.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Plenty of things in Germany: en.wikipedia.org/âŠ/9_November_in_German_history
smeenz@lemmy.nz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Ah yes, I remember the wall in 1989
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Should we double check, and make sure he knows what Pearl Harbor was? And Hiroshima, and Nagasaki? And the Holocaust?
What? Itâs not unreasonable to say he may have missed some key moments in history.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I only learned of this one from Behind the Bastards
Jax@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Since Iâve come back from India Iâve sort of just been waiting to hear about an environmental disaster there. This makes sense.
Nomad@infosec.pub âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
We studied that in university from a industrial and aviation safety expert. Its really worth reading how that shit came about. The human stupidity on this was recklessness on steroids.
One example: the siren that should be used to evacuate all personnel was used daily to call employees to lunch.
You can imagine how that ended.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
To be fair 9/11 is probably going to be forgotten about way sooner
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs not too relevant for a school history lesson because it didnât have too many consequences except for the Iraq war
eltacopeludo@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Naninjing, dresden, tokio bombing, pol pot⊠there is no shortage of atrocicites.
Malyca@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The first 3 are American, I could see a foreigner not knowing. My sister is a teacher in Europe and she says none of her students knew about the Holocaust. These are teenagers. I think maybe we might be fucked as a species.
FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Like lots of muricans forget about minsk and go neanerthal about russia. Happens a lot
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I would like to offer some perspective to the Americans upset the world doesnât revolve around them. And share a terrorist act from my country, that I know you lot wonât know about.
But most of you lot celebrate the party that did it so, maybe it wonât land well.
unmagical@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Did he go to a Waldorf school? I heard thatâs a thing. Like they just collectively tried to keep kids from knowing about it.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Remember remember the 11th of September⊠wait that doesnât sound right
jaygray91@piefed.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Disclaimer: am not American nor Western
I remember this day. Was a wee lad. We were on vacation. The TV was on and apparently it was the news. I donât remember if itâs breaking news but it might not be, since weâre 12 ish hours different time zones, and I remember seeing it at day time.
Well, back then I thought it was a movieâŠ
And the eerie part was that my dad had just gotten back home from a business trip there just a few days before.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The equivalent today would be someone in 2001 not knowing something that happened in 1976.
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Well, I was in the third grade when 9/11 happened, and there was never any kind of formal education about it, because we had all experienced. Kids a just a few years younger than me would t remember it at all, but likely still wouldnât have learned about it in school yet. Thatâs probably where this guy falls
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Did ya tell him how much people went in circles trying to explain who did it but it was really territorial control and we kept switching who did it and then killed Osama bin Laden as a world distraction.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
If you want to tell our response to it through comedy, I suggest the Seanbaby article The Nation that Freaked Out www.seanbaby.com/news/terrorism.htm
Kennystillalive@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
2001 or 1973?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs why, out of habit, I call them the 9/11 attacks since thatâs a websearch-able term that will yield informative results. I am often caught flat footed, not knowing things that are assumed to be common knowledge.
scytale@piefed.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Is that a hotel front desk?
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Are we sure even happened?
Beeen132@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
What happened?
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
He is either not a US American, or the âNever Forgetâ nation forgot to properly teach him.
Asetru@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I live in one of those ânever forgetâ nations that promised to never forget something⊠but it seems that we, too, managed to forget.
rotkehle@feddit.org âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I feel you so much right now.
Taldan@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Germany with AfD becoming the largest individual party?
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
PsssssstâŠ
Damit besagte Personengruppen es vergessen könnten, mĂŒssten die es erstmal verstehen. Das wĂŒrde Bildung erfordern und da wird dann schwierigâŠ
starlinguk@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Hallöchen.
Carl@anarchist.nexus âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Or he just didnât pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesnât help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
see: forgot to properly teach him.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
He doesnât look that young. I canât imagine somehow missing the post 9/11 fallout and the war in the Middle East. The 20 year anniversary of it wasnât as extravagant as the 10 year. But as an American it was kinda hard to ignore.
If heâs from outside the us and like just turned 18 maybe. But like how does one even miss all of the memes about it? I guess even those have died down too.
Rhaedas@fedia.io âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
History teachers in grade school seem to be either great or terrible. Nothing in between.
I can see someone born around then or after not understanding the scope of the event. I can think of things that happened when I was born or just a kid where even knowing about it later it just seems like something in a book. You can't know what a world was like before an event if you weren't aware of it.
How he escaped ever seeing more about it online is another thing, but then again I see lots of reaction videos, many that are probably legit, of people who never heard or saw things, even if they've heard references to it. It's yet another XKCD Ten Thousand moment.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Ooh can confirm: Our coach taught us that nazi germany was communists and north korea killed more people than any civilization in history.
Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
When I was in school all the coaches taught physical education
Klear@piefed.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Fuck you, Iâm not old!
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
What the hell is this coach thing?! No wonder some American schools have a teaching problem đ±, itâs already hard to get good teachers but letting mr run after the ball teach historyâŠ
Baffled.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
When I was in schools, American history was Pilgrims, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, The Great Depression, and WWI. Then it was summer. We might have a school assembly in February to talk about MLK.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
If you were to ask my teachers, American history goes revolutionary war, then nothing happens for awhile, then the civil war, then nothing happens for awhile, then WW1 had to happen so that we could have ourselves a WORLD WAR TWO! The four years that make up 9/10ths of American history. And then the Japanese signed the surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri and then stuff I-the boomer history teacher-personally remember so it legally canât be history.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Did you finish school prior to 2001? Cuz, I mean, thatâs everything I learned in school too at that time.
But my daughter is 13 now, and I can confirm that she has been formerly told about 9/11. I donât think with as much detail as she will learn in her during her high school tenure, but she at least knows about it.
OwOarchist@pawb.social âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Yep. And with each successively later era in history being more and more rushed because the history teacher was always behind schedule and the big standardized tests at the end of the year ate up a lot of time.
And then next year, in the next history class, you start over at Pilgrims again!
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
HomeschooledâŠ
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
o no I đ forgor đż
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
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toynbee@piefed.social âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
OwOarchist@pawb.social âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
But I thought they didnât like âwokeâ stuff?
Bytemeister@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Well, the number of people talking about the 3 planes getting hijacked on another thread makes me think weâve forgotten at least a little bit.
greenbit@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Many people are just alien tourists