Is the "Gen z stare" a real thing?

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As an early 90’s millennial, I’ve never noticed a “gen z stare” as described in news articles like a “blank face that shows lack of social skill or ability to think”. The only times I’ve witnessed it happen and seen the older person accuse them of “gen z stare” is when the older person says something off hand or dumb but isn’t self aware enough to realize they’re being weird. Hell, I’ve given people a blank face countless times because I was taught it was better to say nothing at all sometimes. Especially when it came to talking to older people at work.

I remember when I was 16, some middle aged guy at work accused me of having no personality. In reality, I kept all conversations short as possible with him (like almost everyone in the store) because they were casually racist and misogynistic.

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lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
Every generation is like this at that age. The hallmark of my generation, GenX, was apathy. Not that I care. Whatever. Never mind.

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eronth@lemmy.world ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
It’s basically the same concept the “Jim face” from The Office. You do something stupid, they stare deadpan at you.

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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨14⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
My son is a cinephile, and he talks about iPhone face on young actors, where actors in period pieces look like they’ve seen an iPhone. Once you’re aware of it, it’s really true. Its really prevalent in crappy Netflix productions and the like.

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explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
These people we’ve been screwing over for our own benefit won’t smile for us!

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FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
Me, an aging Xennial: “The hwat?”

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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
The only thing I know of that comes close to what you’re describing is the “thousand yard stare” of someone in the middle of an internalized existential crisis or reliving a traumatic moment as a daydream.

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anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m Gen X and I have that stare when dealing with some people.

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- billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  I call it the “dafaq” stare.
  
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- rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  Me too, with all people, but specifically only the breathing ones. :P
  
  Each generation goes through a phase where they need to weigh out what “vocal authoritative” people are saying.
  
  Each generation later goes through a phase where they try to pass “what worked for them” off to the younger generation.
  
  Sometimes, it rings true, some times is rings out of touch. Sometimes the advice is too suspect to trust but they don’t want to start an argument.
  
  My father tried to tell me I needed to get in somewhere that had a nice pension plan because Funds where bullshit. Turns out funds are bullshit, but pension plans are dinosaurs now and often get raided even worse than fund sheets.
  
  My own is find a good place to work with managers that listen, work hard, become dependable, work harder, become hard to replace, start climbing the ladder.
  
  Either of these things should absolutely cause a blank processing stare on a 20-30 something, because neither are anywhere near universal,
  
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gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Nope. It’s always safe to ignore any articles about “kids these days”

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- TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Oh I take most “news” with a large grain of salt for sure. Just seems like such an odd thing to attribute to a single generation when everyone alive has probably at some point reacted with a blank face to avoid saying “you’re fucking weird”
  
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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It was only a few years ago that journalists seemed to realize that Millennials had jobs and kids. I’m thinking about college for my kids and “Millennials unable to adapt to the work force” articles are still being written. Bitch, we ARE the work force!
  
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- Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They all want to write a book and disrespects their elders.
  
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HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s just a positive sign towards the deprecation of the weird social theater we’ve trapped ourselves in.

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GreenBeard@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
As an elder millenial I might have some insight. You know how when we were kids people used to get all up in their feelings when you weren’t smiling. That’s this. “Gen Z stare”, is just “Resting Bitch Face” or “You look prettier when you smile darlin’” repackaged and rebranded. They’re mad that the young people in general and women in particular aren’t running around with goofy forced smiles on their faces to make them feel special.

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Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Boomers would call it the “fluoride stare”, in relation to some of them believing fluoride in water made millenials stupid.

I dunno. I’d consider it just a dumb generational thing.

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- FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  Big talk for an entire generation dumbed down from leaded paint and gasoline lmfaooo
  
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  - bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    And Asbestos
    
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alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The various answers in this thread are just hilarious.

The state is real; it’s when they work in a service position but don’t communicate. You walk up to the counter and instead of greeting you or asking how they can help you or saying anything at all they just stare at you. That’s the Gen z stare. It’s that simple and I’ve encountered it everywhere that employs younger people. It doesn’t bother me, you don’t have to do shit for a shit wage, but it does make interactions unnecessarily awkward.
The comment saying that Gen z just doesn’t tolerate stupid is hilarious. What percentage of your generation voted for Trump again?

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- BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨34⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  Unless you are literally a child there is no reason for the person at the counter to greet you or ask how they can help, put on your big boy pants and just tell them what you need and move on, everyone is busy and no one has time to make you feel special, have your order prepared before getting to the counter, just say Hi can I have xyz and they will get it done, that’s all the conversation that needs to happen.
  
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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  Sounds like poor training maybe
  
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- exist@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Huh maybe it’s cultural but I have totally encountered this with older people. Any time there is a ticket or info booth like at a train station, they are either staring or doing something else and I never know if I’m interrupting something. It’s the best when they fiddle with something looking very busy, and then they look at me annoyed that I’m not saying what I want from them.
  
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Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Nah. The “Gen Z stare” is the blank-faced look we give people that we think are idiots. It’s not that we lack self-awareness…it’s you. Gen Z doesn’t tolerate stupid. We just can’t be bothered to call you out on it, because that’s drama we don’t need. So we just stare at you, instead.

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- starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  If someone says “good morning” and you just stare, you’re not “not tolerating stupid”, you’re rude. You know how much better you can make someone’s day by giving a friendly response? It’ll make your own day better too.
  
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  - Jack@lemmy.ca ⁨36⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Yes it’s rude, but there are some people who think that insincerity, dishonesty, and wasting time is rude. They’re probably a minority even within Gen Z tho.
    
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- breezeblock@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Regardless of how you phrase it, it’s still a lack of social engagement.
  
  Do you think you’re the only generation surrounded by idiots? Most humans have been idiots for all of history. Is just that without digital media you’re forced to live with those people your whole life. Retreating into a digital world for your social and intellectual support isn’t the flex you think it is.
  
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  - Tiresia@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    If it’s not social engagement, then why are you experiencing a particular social signal from it?
    
    A boycott or a strike is political engagement. Deliberately ignoring you is social engament. A blank stare sends a stronger signal than small talk: It means actually engaging with your ideas and judging you for them. Where small talk seeks to neutralize tensions with noncommittal affirmations, a blank stare communicates a boundary clearly and efficiently.
    
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  - Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I don’t think you fully appreciate what it’s like to grow up with boomers for parents. Your generation can basically ignore them, without any direct interaction. All you lose, is a birthday card. We grew up with them in our face, every single day. You can’t argue with these people. All you can do, is stare at them like they’re fucking idiots…because they are. Confronting them, is next to impossible, unless you are prepared to go to war over the stupidest shit imaginable.
    
    This isn’t our "social deficiency. It’s theirs. We grew up with no way of communicating with a generation of Karens, other than deliberate non-engagement.
    
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  - fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Why should someone put up with dickheads who aren’t worth it?
    
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- 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  My sister in law is a conservative millennial and she does this anytime you mention anything negative about Trump
  
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  - veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    There are women Trump supporters? My God…
    
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- Kernal64@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Congratulations, you’ve described a common human behavior that humans have been doing for all of human history. 😐
  
  All this nonsense about this or that generation doing something incomprehensible to other generations is just distraction and noise meant to keep us attacking each other instead of coming together against the oligarchy that’s been systematically grinding us down for ever increasing profits.
  
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- RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The issue is when people are so self-absorbed they treat everyone like idiots, so the “stare” becomes a default.
  
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Meron35@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The Gen Z state is simply the rational response in dealing with customer facing situations where either 1. the customer is problematic, or 2. if the worker genuinely doesn’t know what what to do.

Responding or engaging to problematic customers (racist, homophobic, misogynistic) can only lead to conflict, reprimand, or lawsuits.

Responding with inaccurate information or simply saying leads to conflict, reprimand, or poor reviews.

Both have worsened as people have become more polarised, and management cuts funding and hours for training.

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Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Nah, it’s “old man yells at cloud”. Blank face is a long standing tradition in the retail and service industries. Ignore 'em and keep being yourself.

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protist@retrofed.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
As an elder millennial, I’ve neither witnessed nor even heard of this “phenomenon.”

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- P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s quite possible you’ve done it tho.im 41 and never thought about it until I heard about it. My CPU usually resets and just plays jenny talking to Forrest Gump on the bus. “Are you stupid or somethin?” And then I come back to reality and can function again, and respond in a manner that isn’t offensive. If my brain didn’t reset, it would respond with low RAM and i would invariably say something incredibly offensive.
  
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Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m an older millennial and I’ve been doing the gen z stare since the late nineties. I often find the stupidity that spews forth from not just my peers, but what seems all humans, to be disarming to the point of disbelief. That translates to me staring at you blankly for a second. The times i don’t stop and recover for that second results in insults spewing from mine own mouth before my brain can restrain. The pause is for both our sake.

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- TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  We’re actually giving them a second to tell us they’re just kidding
  
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- P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Exactly, it keeps me from quoting Forrest gump. “You stupid or somethin?”
  
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scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
GenX here. I think it’s the name that’s given to a small collection of social mismatches between the generations’ explanations of one another and their social behaviors. Gen Z in my view do not place much value on social graces as I define them. I define them as things like “greet someone before you ask for something,” and “say thank you before you leave.” I try to do these things at all times and I find GenZ do not always return them or give any sign they even saw them. When a cashier hands me my change and it’s time for me to go, I will say “thank you,” and imho it’s good social graces for them to say “thank you” as well or “you’re welcome” or even just “have a nice day.” But with GenZ cashiers, I say thank you, and then realize they had stopped paying any attention to my presence even before I said it. The second the change has been handed to me, it seems they consider the transaction over, period.

This is not always or even most of the time. But it’s something that happens often enough to notice as a pattern. Once you’ve heard the stereotype of the “GenZ stare” you can start to experience confirmation bias of it. And really you never know if the person you’re facing is GenZ or not.

So it’s not a thing one should over-think. But yes I think there is something real behind it. Like a lot of stereotypes, it’s not fair to apply to everyone, but it may have some origin in reality somehow.

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- rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  
  But with GenZ cashiers, I say thank you, and then realize they had stopped paying any attention to my presence
  
  Generally, what works for me is to say it like you mean it. Say it like they just walked across the store to pick up a can that rolled off your cart. throw a little ‘unexpected’ in there, light smile, and then tell them to have a good day. If you don’t sell it, they’re going to assume you’re going through the motions just to feed the machine. They’ll blip back to you for a second from the next mundane task, get a smirk or a little grin, and say you’re welcome. Then GTFO, don’t tie em up, don’t make em think you’re flirting.
  
  I doubt it makes their day noticeably better. It hasn’t seem to make them noticeably worse. They’re probably burned out and don’t want to emotionally invest further into their job.
  
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  - Jack@lemmy.ca ⁨46⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    and then tell them to have a good day
    
    Might this be an extravert thing? Do extraverts enjoy being told to have a good day?
    
    I prefer not to, and I also don’t want to be told to smile. I’ll put up with banalities like “Hi” even when there’s no need to actually get attention, and “Thanks” when the person clearly isn’t thankful; but if asked “How are you?” I might actually answer and they probably won’t like my answer if they didn’t mean it.
    
    Maybe introverted people put more value in honesty and not wasting time?
    
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inmatarian@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve seen it a few times. Each time I immediately thought “damn this job must suck” and then later I realized I was the moron customer who asked a dumb question.

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- FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The thing is, even if you do ask a dumb question they should treat you with respect, right? And not make you feel bad about it, unless it’s perhaps offensive.
  
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  - Jack@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Some think that respect needs to be earned. I think everyone deserves courtesy, but I wouldn’t blame someone for blanking for a second when confronted by MAGA-level idiocy/sociopathy/greed.
    
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  - Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Remember when you’re mother told you, “if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all”? Well gen z is the kids raise on that behavior. They don’t insult but they don’t give fake small talk to cover it. Maybe I’m projecting but i feel the gen z stare is the evolution of that mindset.
    
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  - scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yes. They work in the store and know all the things. Others do not. It’s literally not their job to know. It may seem dumb when someone doesn’t know something you have learned 100x over. You may even convince yourself that any normal person should figure some thing out easily. But everyone isn’t working in that store thinking about this stuff for 8 hours at a time and we are all busy living our lives. I don’t believe in being a dick to someone because you think their question is dumb. Frankly we are all smart at some things and dumb at others and the rule should be to have some grace with one another about it.
    
    The water cups may indeed be right there dude but excuse the fuck out of me for not spotting them - I just walked into this restaurant and there are a million things to look at in here.
    
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Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve encountered what I think of as the Gen z stare once or twice.

It skews more towards the younger end of Gen z, and honestly might even be more of an older gen alpha thing.

What I’m talking about isn’t the blank look given after being asked a stupid question, although they are absolutely masters of that as well (and I love that look and use it as myself)

It feels like more of a lack of understanding that someone is asking you a question and expecting an answer, or perhaps an inability to process that question and come up with an appropriate answer.

My friend who works at a bank has what I think is kind of the quintessential story that shows this version of the stare looks like, a younger person walked up to the counter, he asked some variation of “How can help you today?” And just got a stare back, like it never crossed their mind that they’d have to answer a question and say “I need to make a deposit/withdrawal,/etc.”

And I don’t think it’s necessarily a feature of the generation as a whole, not that gens z and alpha don’t have their quirks, but I have plenty of Gen z friends and coworkers and I don’t think they’re much worse off in any particular way than my fellow millennials. I have somewhat less exposure to get

I think it’s a very specific subset of the generation with a perfect storm of social isolation/anxiety issues, maybe some neurodivergence, probably some overbearing helicopter parents, and COVID kind of hitting at exactly the wrong point in their lives so that they missed out on some kind of social development milestones.

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DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s just another distraction from the class war. Anything that tries to divide us is just a distraction.

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PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve had 1 experience with 1 younger employee that encapsulates what is considered to be the “Gen z stare”. She was prolly just bored at working in a beef jerky shop. Not gonna get my ruffles in a feather (I like em crunchy).

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- bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ive worked with younger folk at my work. Half are "oh my lord , we are so screwed " the other half is “damn, this kids smart, I like em”
  
  Soo nothing has changed in the last thousand years.
  
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Baggie@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Oh my god leave the poor fuckers alone.

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- webp@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Thank you. stares
  
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JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m also an early 90s baby. It used to be you’d say something back when you caught someone staring at you. Like hey take a picture it’ll last longer. Then the one staring would out of the moment, crack a joke back, and be done with it. Now it’s that moment going on too long and the person engaging the stare doesn’t even acknowledge it afterwards. My brother’s girlfriend does it all the time. The other day I’m getting ready to leave and opened my door to go to the bathroom and the girl stopped what she was doing to glare at me. No hello, no good morning, no thought behind those eyes. Just nothing. I put my hands up like I got arrested and she snapped back to what she was doing without acknowledging my existence.

It’s almost as if nobody told them staring is rude. It’s weird. It sucks.

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- lmmarsano@group.lt ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Staring isn’t rude. People are awfully self-conscious. People can just be. Weird is fine.
  
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  - JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Maybe it’s a culture thing then. I grew up in a city where I was told if you look at someone the wrong way they’ll beat your ass. I’ve seen it first hand too. You get the wrong person at the wrong time, staring can lead to a fight.
    
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- wolfpack86@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  This isn’t that.
  
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  - JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    What is it then?
    
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- Zirconium@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I do that, I stare and say nothing. Too shy
  
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RegularJoe@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Forbes has an article from a Ph.D. who claims it’s real.

The ‘Gen Z Stare’: What It Means And Why Employers Can’t Afford To Ignore It

By Bryan Robinson, Ph.D., Senior Contributor. author of Chained to the Desk in a Hybrid World: A Guide to Balance.

Jul 16, 2025, 06:43pm EDT Jul 21, 2025, 04:07pm EDT

forbes.com/…/the-gen-z-stare-what-it-means-and-wh…

He was born in 1945 according to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_E._Robinson

That puts him in the Silent Generation, as Boomers don’t start until 1946.

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- halcyoncmdr@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ah yes, an 80 year old definitely has the perspective to understand Gen Z. It’s possible, extremely unlikely, but there are always exceptions, just look at Skyrim Grandma.
  
  Quickest way to tell is to see how they explain a current massive meme like 6-7. If it’s some overly complicated explanation, they clearly have no fucking idea what they’re talking about, degree or not. A degree just means you’re more educated in one specific thing, the higher that degree, the more specific that knowledge. Often that means anything unrelated to that specialization end up lacking. Some of the most educated people I know are the absolute dumbest as soon as it leaves their very specific knowledgebase.
  
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  - RegularJoe@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Here’s a quote from that article
    
    Galvin says the facial expression is a subtle cue from a digital-native generation raised on screens, fast content and online communication. “For many Gen Zers, constant eye contact doesn’t always signal attentiveness the way it might for older colleagues,” he explains. “What a Boomer or Gen X manager may perceive as checked-out might actually be Gen Z’s version of active listening.”
    
    Sujay Saha, president of Cortico-X agrees. “Gen Z entered the workforce in an era defined by screens, social distancing and remote communication, and companies must now close the experience gap with empathy-focused onboarding and support, not judgment,” he told me.
    
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  - Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    6-7 is a combination of absurdism, reference humour, and demand resistance, no?
    
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  - bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    23 skidoo daddy-o
    
    Nothing has ever changed.
    
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Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yep. They never really learned that facial expressions are important part of communication due to being online. Their equivalent is throwing emojis everywhere.

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ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m a millennial too and tbh I’ve done the gen z stare, sometimes there are just things that dumbfound you.

Nobody is always going to have the answer to everything and be immediately quick on their feet at all times.

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mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve seen a lot of this over the last few years, esp since covid.

Part of it is: “That’s the most absurdly stupid thing I’ve heard in a while, let’s allow this to echo for a bit and maybe when the speaker thinks on what they said for a bit, they’ll reconsider.” But there’s a range, from that to grey rock - just deny the other party any kind of reaction, much less satisfaction. just be a blank space. grey rock is really useful vs narcissists and people who feel entitled (why don’t you just smile more).

we weren’t as sophisticated in this way when I was a kid; if your parent was emotionally manipulative or abusive, we generally had to just eat shit. kids these days can do research and find strategies, and I respect that. on the other hand, I’ve never had a problem just picking up the phone and calling someone, which my kid thinks is absolutely deranged.

it’s funny how times change.

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lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Gen see, gen do. People adopt each others behaviour.

enculturation noun

The process by which an individual adopts the behaviour patterns of the culture in which he or she is immersed.

The adoption of the behavior patterns of the surrounding culture.
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- Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Or they or ze or xe
  
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voicesarefree@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Only encountered it once maybe two years ago. Was in a part of town I am not often around anymore and dropped in a coffee shop I used to frequent. The staff couldn’t have been much older than 20, all with bare midriffs that I have never seen in food service before (this is kind of a grungy art district spot, but still). Ordered my coffee and asked about their food which used to have some gluten free options, and got a blank stare for maybe 10 seconds.

That’s it. Just once. Not a general stereotype but I’m not exactly well traveled so maybe more regional?

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