The context makes it worse, but I’m just trying to gauge how fucked up normal people would find this, because being raised by this kind of person messed with my calibration.
Is your mom an English sex therapist?
How abnormal is it for a mother to be her son a fleshlight for his 18th birthday?
Submitted 1 day ago by FATALRPG@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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Auli@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It depends - are their arms broken?
Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 1 day ago
a semi obscure Reddit reference appears
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s an older meme, but it checks out.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In that case why would they need a fleshlight?
kautau@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Physical therapy tool for when their arms heal and mom is at work
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You can mount them on a wall.
Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I… Uh… Might have been raised in a culture that is quite different from yours, but I’d say very abnormal.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s entirely possible for a mother & son to have a loving, honest, and very Open relationship. They can discuss anything and be supportive.
Giving that kind of gift could fit right in with the dynamic. Or, a family could enjoy giving “gag gifts” and it could be one of those.
It does not have to be a weird or bizarre gift.
warm@kbin.earth 1 day ago
Yeah, context is very important. It goes from fucking weird, to funny depending.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I fall into the latter category. At one point while I was growing up my dad gave my recently-divorced aunt a glow-in-the-dark vibrator for Christmas and everyone thought it was hilarious. My sister and I had to pretend we didn’t understand what it was. I definitely also have known people who would be mortified to hear that story, much less have it happen to them. It really does just depend on the dynamic.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeppers
slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
True, fair, and open minded. But if that were the case, though, then the question wouldn’t need to be asked.
Psiczar@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Very. When I want to get off, I don’t want my Mum involved.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Not even with broken arms?
JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Why must I keep being reminded of this :(
PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Your poor mother with broken arms most certainly should’nt be involved.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The only thing more fucked up is if you broke both arms.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is rather high on the cringe list.
rustyfish@lemmy.world 1 day ago
On a scale of 1 to 10?
A solid 13.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s an unusual gift and would make most people incredibly awkward but there’s nothing sinister in the act itself, absent of the context. People gift things like guns and alcohol and I would argue those do more harm.
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It’s not out of the realm of possibility that it’s normal for your family, but for most families that wouldn’t be normal.
If you’re family is open about being sex positive, if talking with your parents about masturbating wasn’t weird as a teenager, then I don’t think it’s that weird of a college send off gift.
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m going against the majority.
It can be made into a weird situation, but the act itself is pragmatic and likely comes from a caring place.
Every parent with a son knows that theyre buffing the helmet any chance they get as teenagers. They’re gonna make messes, ruin washcloths, use all the hand lotion, etc. Any parent who thinks their son ain’t beating their meat like it owes them money is delusional. Long before your kids get to masturbation age, the parent(s) should have talked about it. If you wait until they get to the age of shame, that is going to be an uncomfortable and unproductive conversation. If you have had an ongoing and open dialog about sex, masturbation, their bodies and other topics, talking about some of the details later will not be a taboo topic. Thusly if the parent offers a masturbatory device to the child, it won’t be weird unless someone wants to make it that way. If the conversations have not taken place and you still want to get your kid a sex toy, you could just order something online and leave it for them without saying anything. You could also get them a gift card to the sex store so they can get something for themself. While I presume most teenage boys dont want to share their private acts of self - gratification with their parent, there is no reason why there cannot be practical honesty about them. Get your kid a sex toy, leave it in his room, and unless he wants to talk about it, assume that he will get many hours of satisfaction from it.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Giving their son a sex toy, whatever, not common, but it can help have a normal conversation about sex and realistic expectations.
For his birthday, kind of weird. I don’t think it should so formal a thing. Just so it and have the conversation about safe sex and how porn isn’t like real sex.
For his 18th, uhhhh little late to the party.
Red_October@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Okay but also giving a kid a sex toy before their 18th birthday is how you end up on a list and have to tell your neighbors about it.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think most teens want parents who are caring and involved, but not in your face to this extent. They embarrass easy
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
I fully agree, this is a pragmatic gift if you kept your discourse about sexual topics open with your child from the beginning. I would’ve gone for a gift card so they can choose themselves in privacy, but it’s fine either way.
For prudish families who learnt of this gift this would be gossip material for the next year tho. So many puritans in the US, the neighbors might be the biggest issue, so i would’ve kept it on the down low.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
its extremely wierd, and getting close to oedipus/fruedian territory. maybe as a gag gift, if the son is doing something like porn, but even that is sitll wierd.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Pretty weird.
That’s old enough they can buy their own.
Is it like a really passive aggressive sign mom doesn’t like their gf?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Ignoring context, it would be unusual, but not inherently worrying. There’s plenty of mothers that help good guide their daughters to an age appropriate sex toy, and some that will did the same for their sons. Rarer, there are fathers that will do so, but men have to worry more about external opinions about such. A mothers buys a dildo for their kid, the default assumption is that it’s weird, but not bad. A father does it, and the default assumption is that he’s over the line.
That being said parents should be the default source is advice about such things, because a bunch of young idiots (as opposed to old idiots) trying to advise each other about things they don’t have much experience with is a recipe for hospital visits.
In terms of general purpose guidance, and funding/ordering sex toys, there’s nothing wrong with a parent helping their kids in that way, assuming care is taken. There’s even an argument to be made that verbal instructions on safe use are even to be encouraged, and helpful hints aren’t exactly out of line (for real, a lot of young people masturbate in unhealthy ways that just a few sentences could prevent much trouble down the line).
In context, with the info you provided in comments, the mother in question is not being a good parent in this case, so it fits the word abnormal in the sense that it is unhealthy.
SuperEars@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s tough for me to imagine having a talk about sex toys with any of my differently-sexed kids in the future.
However, on the topic of safe use I have seen too many videos of surgeons removing a football-sized orc dildo from someone’s ass. I think I would find the courage to at least mention the importance of a sufficiently-flared base, especially if I’m on the hook for their medical expenses. Also, the junk caught in the metal cock rings. I’m sure there are more examples.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
too many videos
One. One is the number.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It’s a little weird for sure. But the whole “do not shove things into you that aren’t fingers or designed for it” conversation is a lot less disturbing than the potential disturbance of that hospital visit. For that matter, it applies to the “don’t shove yourself or rub yourself against anything not designed for it or on/in a consenting and legal human” as well.
I’ve known a few people that suffered injury from humping stuff that wasn’t wise.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 day ago
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You know… Technically speaking there is probably much more incest in Utah than any other state.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
No, it’s ok, it’s just soaking, which a lot of them are convinced doesn’t count
/s, in case it needs to be said
swordgeek@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
“Abnormal” is pretty clear - this isn’t something I’d expect to see from one mom in a thousand - maybe ten thousand.
But so what? I doubt it’s an unhealthy act or situation, so fuck those other 9,999 moms! Actually, don’t - you have a fleshlight.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Same energy as grandad buying his grandson a sex doll. Make sure to not buy the Gazorpazorps Gwendolyn model.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I’m gonna go with somewhere around super duper.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 day ago
between a scale of “giving your kid condoms and the talk on prom night” and "mother measures my penis every weekend at bath time” this is a solid “my mother bought me a fleshlight so I remember her every time I crank it”.
Jesus dude…I’m sorry. and if you’re into that shit…congratulations?
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I remember watching this show dark side of the ring, and this one wrestler buff bagwell would get his mom to shave his asshole for him. Some people are weird
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I could have gone my whole life not knowing this. now that I know…I must tell others, and progress the dark shame of humanity.
asmoranomar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Only if it’s a present the size of a car in the garage and you invite everyone over to witness him unwrap it.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
In on itself it’s not directly red flags I’d say. It depends on the family, it depends on a lot of things. Maybe they’re just oen about sexuality and don’t see it as a big deal. As long as there is no abuse involved, I think it should be fine.
It’s unusual for sure and I’m guessing that if the birthday boy opened up this present in public this would have caused a lot of uncomfortable laughter, sure.
BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I’d be super curious to hear the context if you’re willing/able to share, but it all depends on the relationship between the mother and son. It strikes me as a bit weird and abnormal, and certainly embarrassing, but if you normally talk about sex in an open and healthy way with her, then this might not be as weird as it seems. Parents know their kids play with themselves, and it’s usually healthier to be open about it than to stigmatize it, but actively buying this kind of thing for her son is a bit much in my opinion…
FATALRPG@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
He’s slightly intellectually disabled (if she had permitted him to have an education, he’d probably be normal) and she was obsessed with him. His sexuality was something that was very “open” to the family, like we all knew about his Megan Fox poster with a hole in it (which she bought for him) and the used tissues in his room were… excessive. Never cleaned up, could smell it in my room.
At one point he chased me and my younger sister around the house waving his penis at us.
I experienced something complicated from her, which toes the line around sexual abuse but isn’t as direct as “she diddled me.”
I’m of course the black sheep and have zero contact with anyone other than my sister now for having pointed out how weird/abusive the family dynamics were…
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Dude, no. That is all super problematic.
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Dude you buried the lede here
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 day ago
He has been sexually abused by her, perhaps covertly. There is enough in what you described that if I was a mandated reporter, I’d be making a call. From what I know of CSA, he has multiple flags and signs of being sexually abused.
Highly recommend, when you feel okay to do so, to look up emotional incest first, and parentification/adultification. That will explain how your mother has been grooming your brother to be her stand-in husband. The reason she didn’t want him to go to school is because a husband her age wouldn’t go to school.
It sounds like your mom also had an emotionally incestuous relationship with you as well, so reading that material can be extremely “triggering” for you. My sincere condolences, it is very traumatizing. Reading about it can bring up old memories as your brain tries to organize old memories with this new information. Often people get tired, agitated, or even regress in age. Give yourself plenty of time to mentally adjust and read and lots of breaks outside walking around, ideally in nature, w eyeballs moving around. OR you can try to play a game like Tetris afterwards (Tetris is specifically studied as being helpful for PTSD/trauma).
I will also rec the book The Borderline Mother, I’m not sure this applies to her at all, but my guess is that it does
BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
That does help explain the strangeness of the whole thing, thanks for sharing. Sounds like things were pretty tough for you, so I’m sorry for that.
It sounds like he is a bit oversexualized (not sure if that’s the right term), but it doesn’t seem like it’s anything too out of the ordinary for someone figuring themselves out. Many of us probably pushed things a bit too far when we were little, I certainly didn’t understand how uncomfortable it made people for me to run around the house naked when I was young. But we all test boundaries like that when we’re growing up, and usually the adults around us help us find the right boundaries, not stretch them.
So yeah, with that new context, giving a fleshlight to her 18 year old son is very odd, and does raise some red flags. Sounds like you made the right call cutting things off.
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
In that situation id say a fleshlight without a serious theraputic intervention on how to express sexuality in a healthy way is nothing but enabling very dangerous behaviors.
freijon@lemmings.world 1 day ago
I didn’t know what a fleshlight was and assumed OP misspelt Flashlight, assuming OP expected something bigger for their 18th birthday. Needless to say, the comments were quite confusing.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 17 hours ago
It depends on the actual intention but it potentially falls under what is referred to as covert incest, especially if there’s a pattern. It’s not something people talk about a lot but it’s more common than you’d think and it can definitely have a lasting impact.
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
How would this be incest? I know most people don’t talk about sex. But some people are more open and talk about this stuff. In your opinion is talking about sex with your children incest?
I mean I think the op it would be weird but my family just shoved everything down and hides it.Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 51 minutes ago
Covert incest is a fixed term and that’s a common reaction to hearing it for the first time.
In your opinion is talking about sex with your children incest?
Usually not but if it’s done with hidden motives it sure can be covert incest - which again is a different thing from what the name might lead one to believe.
MTK@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As far as societal norms go, a 9/10.
As far as actually being unhealthy? Depends. If this is a sex positive, giving you the tools you need, and being supportive type of thing, i would say this is unconventional but healthy. If it’s some sort of personal involvement or insertion into your sex life, I would say this is very unhealthy.
Your mom getting involved in any sort of sexual topic can be really uncomfortable, but that doesn’t make it wrong, it just needs to be in a healthy, mature, and appropriate way.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
Is it weird as in the sense of being uncommon? Yes.
Is it weird in the sense of being gross or harmful? No.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
its a mother and son, which is very wierd. if it was a bf or gf, or friends of the son, that is different.
Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Don’t he’ll end up asking you to clean it
scoobford@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It isn’t an inherently problematic act in itself but it is very weird and I’d be shocked if it has ever happened without being connected to some very creepy shit.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How about a card filled with 150 bucks. Then a joke on it…go by a fleshlight or take a girl out on a date. Happy Birthday!
Buying one straight up is just plain odd and should not happen.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 day ago
They’re $150??
occultist8128@infosec.pub 1 day ago
they offer good experience though
Drekaridill@feddit.is 1 day ago
I wouldn’t want to think of my mother when I look at my fleshlight
Nasan@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
It’s quite acceptable… In Alabama.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Roll tide
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 21 minutes ago
Exceptionally. Exceptionally fucked up.