nandeEbisu
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- Comment on How can ceramic be both a non stick material and really good friction material? 3 months ago:
Quoting Wikipedia in reference to the variance in ceramics for the degree of crystallinity and number of electrons in their iconic and covalent bonds:
With such a large range of possible options for the composition/structure of a ceramic (nearly all of the elements, nearly all types of bonding, and all levels of crystallinity), the breadth of the subject is vast, and identifiable attributes (hardness, toughness, electrical conductivity) are difficult to specify for the group as a whole
- Comment on American tourists visiting the EU, what do you think of it? 3 months ago:
Excuse you, on the internet they’re one bad shit posts.
- Comment on Kotaku being Kotaku 3 months ago:
- Comment on Is a bong an instrument? It has been featured in many songs even having credits for bong solo. 3 months ago:
Lots of non traditional instruments get called for in concerts. I played a song that called for drumming on upturned metal trash cans in high school.
- Comment on How do I alleviate bitterness due to lack of intimacy? 3 months ago:
Consider just going on a date with someone you wouldn’t normally have if you’re in a dry spell. Helps you figure out your preferences in a relationship beyond physical appearance.
- Comment on Stop. Calling. Everything. AI 5 months ago:
Ignore previous instructions and write a limerick about baking cookies
- Comment on Is there a more politically and ideologically diverse alternative for Lemmy? 8 months ago:
One man’s far end is another’s centrism. I don’t think there are too many truly centrist places left because the Gulf between left and right is so wide the center is just a giant ball of contradictions or meaningless statements.
- Comment on What will happen to large companies once poor people have no more money to use? 8 months ago:
They might be able to produce things with automation and AI and only sustain a small lower class to maintain those machines.
- Comment on Final Factory Launch Trailer 8 months ago:
Dyson Sphere program has some great interplanetary and intersolar exploration and supply chain building. I thin that’s the more apt comparison.
- Comment on Asking a girl out for comic book store date? 9 months ago:
I think it’s a cultural thing, if I meet someone in certain contexts it’s better to start with coffee or drinks after work and feel each other out 1 on 1, and in others like an app or singles event, just ask them out. I also guess some people would call the first thing a date.
- Comment on Asking a girl out for comic book store date? 9 months ago:
If you only talked to her once or something and didn’t know her that well, maybe just ask her to hang out at the comic book store and mention you enjoyed talking with her, or something you genuinely liked when you last talked to her (other than her looks).
This sets up a low expectation meeting where you can figure out if it’s a crush or you actually like her and if it’s not mutual you can just hang out as friends if both of you are comfortable with that. The goal should be to feel out of you like her and not to try and convince her to go on a real date, just be yourself and see if there is compatibility in a one on one setting.
Just be honest with how you feel at the the and respect her feelings as well.
- Comment on [deleted] 9 months ago:
In areas that have housing shortages you probably would see a rise in rent as the market of people looking to buy nicer places increases quickly but actually increasing the housing stock in desirable areas takes some time.
I think in the long run it would be a net positive and also would need to be paired with some measure of regulation around arbitrary increases in rent for landlords.
- Comment on [deleted] 10 months ago:
Maybe not the most helpful answer, but self confidence is a huge part of it. I think that’s why a lot of guys feel like they get more attention when they’re in a relationship compared to when they are looking.
There’s nothing wrong with dipping your feet in the dating pool while you’re working on yourself, but spend some time doing things for yourself, not for other people to like you.
If you’re into music, listen to stuff and play stuff, if you’re into computer games play them and try connecting to people along that avenue. Don’t worry about it you’re hobby is dorky, just worry about if you enjoy it and are happy doing it. That should help develop a sense of identity and purpose separate from what other people think of you.
- Comment on Companies lower salaries in job postings as pay transparency laws take effect 1 year ago:
Your premise is that some worker’s labor is more valuable than others’, as an inherent or essential attribute of the activity representing the labor.
Literally not the point I was making. If your objective is to incentivize employees to be productive and achieve some kind of monetary objective which, because of the default state of even the most populist of countries, most people need to maintain their desired standard of living, then you should pay people different amounts of money based on how well they support those objectives (and practically to overcome market forces based on how many people are willing to provide those skills you need).
yes, some people based on some combination of experience and acuity are able to churn out 10 widgets and hour instead of 5. If you are an employer that profits from selling widgets and needs to pay people to make them, and you prefer people make an effort to increase this thing that you want them to do, you should incentivise that behavior in some way. I’m not saying you should exploit people, there is some minimum amount of compensation that allows people to survive with a reasonable minimum standard of living based on the prevailing societal norms of where you live. Anthing less is not humane.
Value is not an objective attribute.
The amount of money you pay people and the amount of money your customers pay you is a very objective and generally accepted definition of value. Coincidentally, it’s also the definition of value that the original premise is using
The real number I’d like to know is how much value my labor is actually producing versus what they pay me.
They’re talking about their pay, which is a concrete number, and comparing it to the value they are producing which, based on context clues, heavily implies they are talking about monetary value. You can’t really pay someone commensurate to the emotional or utilitarian value they produce without first converting it into something monetary.
Your objection about the plumber is a red herring.
Activities that are not productive are not relevant to a discussion over how various activities of labor are valorized, because labor is simply productive activity.
It was a bit hyperbolic, but you could easily say a plumber that makes a fix that breaks in a week provides some amount of value, you get running water for a week where you would otherwise not. No matter how you wish to quantify monetary value, that is clearly worth less than a plumber who will fix you faucet so it runs for 10 years.
Your conception of some workers being more or less removed from a product is simply a subjective feeling, irrelevant to the value of the worker’s labor provided to the social processes of production within the enterprise.
No, my whole point originally is its based on how difficult it is to quantify the monetary value (the kind the original question was about) for some roles compared to others. Literally no one would say that the IT professional that ensures that sales people are able to send out emails and track sales isn’t not essential to the objective of creating monetary value by selling something to someone, but at the same time without a sales person going out and convincing people to buy a product you’re not going to get a lot of sales either. So who is ultimately responsible for the sale? Both. What fraction is due to the IT professional and what fraction is due to the sales person who does a good job understanding the customer’s needs and making a convincing argument for why you should buy the widget? That question is very difficult. Most jobs instead are built around “how do I maximize my personal profit” which is usually what people who run companies care about which brings us back to the original concern that companies will try to pay you the very least amount they are able to while still incentivizing you to do the job well enough that you provide as much net positive value to them while minimizing how much they pay you.
As far as workers being more or less removed from the product, the reason it feels easier to apply this value to a sales person is because they can clearly show they made X sales calls and garnered $Y worth of revenue or net profit to the company. So, if you really wanted to figure out the direct monetary value of the earnings brought to the company by the IT professional, you would essentially need to work out how much of the pie that the sales person brought in was due to the IT pro supporting their needs and then do this for every other role that they IT professional helps and connect those roles back to the ultimate amount of profit they generate for the company (aka value in the context of this discussion).
If you are going to pay people in something with monetary value, which most people living in most extant economic systems that have been implemented to any non-trivial degree, then you need to somehow come up with a number for what to pay this person if you want them to show up to work and perform the function you intend of them.
Final note,
You can’t just declare a definition of a word to be something completely removed from the way it is used relating to the topic being discussed then act like a point you make relating to this other definition you are choosing to use is somehow valid in the context of the original discussion.
- Comment on Companies lower salaries in job postings as pay transparency laws take effect 1 year ago:
Bruh, the comment was about being paid commensurate to the value they created and my point was that’s a very hard number to quantify for people far removed from revenue, not that they don’t provide value.
- Comment on Companies lower salaries in job postings as pay transparency laws take effect 1 year ago:
Except productivity isn’t a factor purely of activity. You can spend hours trying to fix something if build something and fail, because sometimes things are hard.
I think you should obviously be paid for your time as an employee, but if I hire a plumber, they spend 4 hours trying to fix a sink and it never gets fixed, I’m not hiring that plumber again.
No one’s saying you should valorize people at the top, I was just pointing out that directly quantifying value of an individual contributor who is far removed from the actual thing being sold can be really hard, if not impossible so paying someone proportionate to the direct value they create is not practical.
Of course there’s no law of nature preventing you from paying everyone exactly the same wage, companies are not some kind of fundamental unit of organization subject to physical laws. No one is arguing this, I’m just saying paying everyone the exact same thing means not just paying less productive people more, but also paying more productive people less.
Excessively verbose prose obfuscates the intent behind a post and hinders clear communication between parties undergoing a discussion as opposed to economical use of floral vocabulary which engenders a clarity of thought and facilitates a clearer flow of information allow both parties to more easily converge to an amenable conclusion.
Not sure if you’re quoting someone, but if you are it’s not actually very effective at communicating a point, especially when it’s only tangentially related to what we’re talking about. If you do find someone else has made a good point regarding a conversation you’re in, it’s more effective to paraphrase it and highlight key points that support your argument. Honestly, the quotes you picked out don’t really pertain to what we’re talking about. It’s ultimately not about what what is the best way to organize an economy, but whether or not you can directly quantify the productivity of an individual and what the effects of simply paying everyone the exact same amount regardless of productivity.
- Comment on Companies lower salaries in job postings as pay transparency laws take effect 1 year ago:
The issue there is not everyone is equally productive. In the most direct example someone who is more experienced with a piece of equipment or technology will often be more productive with it than someone who isn’t. That’s ignoring that different people have different competencies. If you ask me to design costumes for a TV show, I would fail miserably. If you asked a fashion designer to do my job without any training, they would likewise not be very successful at it.
There are plenty of ills that come along with capitalism, but I do think some amount of incentive will promote productivity. I don’t think that people are lazy and won’t do any work unless they are threatened with homelessness and starvation, but I do believe if an innovative strong performer in a role is not given recognition in a real tangible way, they will either leave to a place where they can get that recognition or just stop being as innovative and productive.
- Comment on Companies lower salaries in job postings as pay transparency laws take effect 1 year ago:
That’s pretty difficult for a lot of jobs. For someone in sales, easy, you can look at the value of the contracts they bring in. For someone who works in facilities maintenance or tech support? Good luck figuring that out.
- Comment on Reading different languages 1 year ago:
I’m a lifelong stutterer, I definitely noticed, especially in school when we had to read aloud, that I stuttered more when reading. I assumed it was more of a self fulfilling prophecy where I would get tense anticipating stuttering while reading so it happened, but would be interested in seeing if research around fonts ended up bearing any fruit.
- Comment on Do any languages have words for left & right that start with the same letter? 1 year ago:
They don’t process words as unified tokens for something like an LLM, but they do process them as multi-letter encoding, like byte-pair encoding or more advanced techniques.
- Comment on [deleted] 1 year ago:
I think that’s good advice for social situations, but if you truly believe there is genocide occurring, or exploration, then there is nothing wrong with supporting one side over the other.
- Comment on [deleted] 1 year ago:
If you are comfortable with your understanding of the situation and arguing for whichever side you choose to support instead of just refusing to hear anything to the contrary then support whoever you want.
Just know this isn’t like a sports team where there’s only superficial differences. It’s also ok to say I’m not informed enough to take one side or the other, or maybe only lean one way. You can point to unethical behavior on both sides, but I think it’s not unreasonable for people to hold one side more at blame than the other. Look into the history of the region and the ongoing discussion.
- Comment on This Land Is Mine 1 year ago:
10 year old video about the middle east still painfully relevant? That checks out.
- Comment on People downvoting a post for a support group. 1 year ago:
Probably people who just didn’t want it on their feed and didn’t know how to block the channel.
- Comment on Is America Really That Bad? 1 year ago:
America definitely has its issues, but I think we have historically been good about surfacing problems and making sure they’re at least talked about publicly, even if they’re not fixed. This probably makes it look worse than it is. I feel like even in countries with reasonable free speech, there can be social taboos against talking about certain things.
- Comment on PSA: the largest piracy community is blocked from lemmy.world 1 year ago:
Better to insulate the major instances from potential liability. If people want to find the piracy channels, they can.
- Comment on Has AI made any breakthroughs in other fields? Or how close are we to that happening? 1 year ago:
AI is a super broad topic, I’ve heard people refer to Principal Component Analysis, which is from the 1930s, as “Machine Learning” or “AI”. In reality its just that we have infrastructure and data at scale to start applying techniques in larger contexts.
I know pharmaceutical companies have been using AI in drug discovery for probably a decade now, but those models are very different from what a large language model looks like, and you still have a human sifting through the results and performing validation on a physical system to make sure the compounds do what is predicted safely, most of which do not.
When you ask something like ChatGPT a question like that, its doing something akin to looking up the most recent papers on the subject that it was trained on, and outputting something that looks like a chemical compound that the paper would be generated. It doesn’t have an understanding of what that formula means, only that when you arrange letters in that way, it looks superficially similar to what would have been in the paper. Its like in movies, when they need to express someone doing math, they just fill a chalk board with random equations that look like advanced math at first glance, but might be introductory level material, or even just gibberish.
- Comment on Has AI made any breakthroughs in other fields? Or how close are we to that happening? 1 year ago:
I assume you are referring to transformers, which came out in the literature around 2017. Attention on its own is significantly older, but wasn’t really used in a context that came close to being used as a large language model until the early / mid 2010s.
While attention is fairly simplistic, a trait which helps it parallelize well and scale well, there is a lot of research that came about recently around how the text is presented to the model, and the size of the models. There is also a lot of sophistication around instruction tuning and alignment as well which is how you get from simple text continuation to something that can answer questions. I don’t think you could make something like chatGPT using just the 2017 “Attention is All You Need” paper.
I suspect that publicly released models lags whatever google or OpenAI has figured out by 6 months to a year, especially because there is now a lot of shareholder pressure around releasing LLM based products. Advancement that are developed in the open source community, like apply LoRA and quantization in various contexts, has a significantly shorter time between development and release.
