Tariffs? Oh right, import taxes. Fuck Trump.
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Submitted 3 months ago by Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
And most of the media went right along with wording such as “tariffs on China” rather than than “tariffs on US buyers”
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
MSMs are totally complicit because the owners of these msms are trump supporters. CNNs and the others are just fox-lite.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They should just call them import or sales taxes, the average person doesn’t get tariffs.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ew…I don’t even want to know what cheeto based sexual diseases you’d get from fucking trump…
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
I worry it’s a lot, and many different varieties. They may be thunder-doming in his body as we speak, with only the injections from the pre-teen blood banks he has trapped in the basement keeping everything at bay.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
JakenVeina@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Props to whoever this company is. This is one of the best bits of customer service I’ve seen in years.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Solid boundaries, clearly communicated. Giving the customer a choice without hurting their own bottom line. I agree. Excellent handling of the situation.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
I may don’t know how the law works but I believe (at least in my vountry) if you agree on thr conditions you can’t pull a Darth Vader and alter the conditions after signing/ordering and paying.
Now if there is a clause that states otherwise this may change.
But I agree, at least they are open and upfront with it.
bassow@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They are not changing anything. They are warning the customer import charges wil incur if the purchase proceed. They gain nothing and stand to lose a sale.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Doesn’t matter on their end. If they wanted to they could ship it and let it get held up by customs with a demand to pay the tariff to release it.
frazorth@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Import duties are not always part of the agreement.
They didn’t change the rules, there is now a charge by the government on it getting delivered, not by the company.
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
The doctrine is called force majeure. Most contracts have a force majeure clause.
If an external factor makes a contract impossible as agreed, the contract can be made void under force majeure. This is very common, and suddenly applied tariffs would likely be covered by a force majeure clause because neither party were responsible for them.
based_raven@lemm.ee 3 months ago
This should be the standard lol. Who you dealing with, the mafia?
echodot@feddit.uk 3 months ago
I mean technically it’s not the company’s responsibility. If you’ve ordered something and they’ve sent it in a reasonable time frame and it just gets charged extra on entry. It’s not the company putting the price up, it’s your own government, so you don’t really have a recourse.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Pretty standard business practice for the U.S. is “The Customer Can Always Get Fucked.” There’s a lot of money that’s basically just been stolen from me because I got tired with fighting the company to just ship me the thing I paid for, and I either bought the thing somewhere else or decided I didn’t want it anymore. Most companies don’t even actually have customer service, just chatbots or outsourced chumps who only seem to exist for Americans to yell at, because they have no authority to do, view, or fix anything.
qarbone@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It is inane that one of the options is “just hold on for a few days and see what happens” and that it is a viable option at all. Government is in shambles.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This is 100% because of Trump’s flip flop ways. Fuck this guy and his MAGA cult.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 months ago
There’s only one thing businesses hate more than tariffs and that’s uncertainty. They would be happier with the towers being definite than the maybe existing and maybe not existing on a almost daily basis.
Because even if he gets rid of the tariffs, he’ll try this again in a few weeks once he’s forgotten about all of the push back and has randomly decided that Canada is still shipping drugs into the US. Because fentanyl can’t be made in the US, everyone knows that.
qarbone@lemmy.world 3 months ago
He’s stupid but not that stupid. He doesn’t even care where any drug originated from. He surely slotted “hot-button drug name” into place and blamed Canada because he wants to put pressure on them.
One of the few things in his entire life Donald has learned and been able to apply is the US Republican playbook for blame-throwing.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Looks like having the option was not that wrong with the partial exemptions that have already come in.
vrojak@feddit.org 3 months ago
Hey, at least the company seems decent and understanding. I just hope stuff getting more expensive will change the minds of some Trump supporters that aren’t completely braindead yet.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Both of them?
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
the minds of some Trump supporters that aren’t completely braindead yet
I’m not sure they’ll change their minds, but just discourage them from ever voting a republican again and that’s good enough. They can sit at home on election day and let us save the country. (hopefully elections still exist)
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 months ago
“Additionally, the $800 exemption for low-value goods has been removed.”
I didn’t even know such a thing existed, it’s not something reported on the news.
So every product will be hit with the tariff raising prices, and not just expensive products getting the tariffs. Yikes!
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Quik@infosec.pub 3 months ago
This is what allowed Temu and Alibaba and Wish and the like to happen (their business model was to send every single product as a single package worth under 800$, leading to enormous shipping times and waste etc., but they don’t have to pay import taxes).
dan@upvote.au 3 months ago
enormous shipping times
This definitely improved over time. I don’t order much from Aliexpress, but the last two items I ordered arrived in just over a week - a similar time frame as ordering from a US store that doesn’t do fast shipping. A few days in China, then on a plane, then a few days in the USA.
A_norny_mousse@lemm.ee 3 months ago
damn!
And it’s not even this government’s first big unambiguous fuck you to the common people.
Tower@lemm.ee 3 months ago
dan@upvote.au 3 months ago
Why does this article describe it as a “loophole”? It’s not a loophole; it was intentionally written into law.
Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 months ago
Wish the company name was included. They seem to have their shit together.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 months ago
After the November election we bought a fridge early we were mildly interested in that is manufactured in Mexico. It seemed conspiratorial to consider possible tariffs in the purchase equation considering decades of free trade with NAFTA and later USMCA.
Yet here we are and we’re very glad we bought the multi-thousand dollar fridge pre-trump-tarrifs.
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, my car shit the bed right before the election and I had to get a new one.
Looking back, I’m glad I got it when I did. It was manufactured in Mexico, like most cars in America. If my old car had lasted 6 more months, I might have ended up paying 25% more for it.
flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
In November, the boyfriend and I went ahead and pulled the trigger on replacing both of our aging laptops (even though it was a bit earlier than I’d like- I just play a lot of Stardew Valley, I don’t really need anything fancy).
Thank goodness for that. I’m sad other people won’t have been as fortunate.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Our fridge is 12 years old and we’re just hoping it keeps chugging on 🥲 Four more years!
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Good thing there isn’t hundreds is miles of unprotected border to snuggle across.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Hmmm… sounds like I need to be spending more time at the border. Question: do we get to choose who we snuggle with or is it like a first come first served situation
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I hate to sound like I’m attacking OP, but unprotected border snuggles are a risky behavior. Please consider having protected border snuggles instead. It feels the exact same, I promise.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You get to pick, but of course it needs to be consensual. But Canadians are very friendly and free with their hugs.
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I will finally get to snuggle with my girlfriend in Canada!
Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
That’s a lot of snuggling
Master@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Its a little bit of sexy snuggling that could happen anywhere and any time!
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Quite a bit. With increasing prices in the US, lots of people sneak up north with snuggling in mind. You do need to be careful at the official border crossings though. Snuggling is generally frowned upon.
DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Question: what would happen if lots of people swarmed right next to the border without actually crossing?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We’d have to snuggle with our fellow Americans. That would be weird.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Hmmm… sounds like I need to be spending more time at the border. Question: do we get to choose who we snuggle with or is it like a first come first served situation
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 months ago
All the business owners voted trump and now they’re crying about free trade 😂
grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 3 months ago
But this will make the cost of eggs go down!/s
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 3 months ago
Crash the market hard enough and people won’t be able to afford them…
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I mean… it might make the eggs cost less relative to other things.
fubarx@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
#trumptarrifs
C’mon, it writes itself.
Tja@programming.dev 3 months ago
It writes itself? Is that why it has a spelling error?
TBi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
From the covfefe guy I wouldn’t be surprised if he misspelled himself.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 months ago
#TrumpTardifs
arotrios@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Naw…
#TardisTrump
Send him back to the 40’s where he belongs. Preferably to the front lines of Leningrad in 1941. Let’s see how much he likes Russians and fascists then…
Zink@programming.dev 3 months ago
#TrumpTardigrades
They will finally inherit the earth once humanity and 3/4 of animals burn away.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 months ago
#trumpiffs
rayyy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Hold off. Kraznov is getting so much shit he is going to walk it back, so he says. Can’t trust him any more than a rabid bat though.
SaltAndSoda@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This will definitely affects every American, every Canadian, and all citizens and residents of any country targeted by a trade war.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Not sure how much it will affect China tbh, they can self sustain. The manufacturers and exporters though, they won’t be happy about it.
SaltAndSoda@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Trump’s taxes on imports (tariffs) from Canada, Mexico, and China will cost people in the United States somewhere around $260 billion a year or around $2,000 a household.
Here is an article about it:
Trump Set to Whack US Working Class With Historic $2,000 Tax Hike
SovsensMester@feddit.dk 3 months ago
Trump is a Russian asset. America will fall within a year. Russia and China will expand their territories freely until Europe is ready to arm itself.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Does anyone actually know why we are putting tariffs on Canadian goods?
legion02@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Because Trump thinks he’s Putin and wants to annex Canada.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
My theory is that they want to control the North-West Passage, which due to climate change will become a high traffic trade route. Something currently dominated by Panama (which he also wants). So they’re putting pressure on Canada now.
Greenland is in a similar situation but I think there may also be oil and such there as well.
rayyy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Didn’t they say climate change was a hoax or was that just for their brain dead cult followers? Amazing how easily they are manipulated. It’s like Republicans captured all the media then spewed shit to dominate them, but hey, it works magnificently.
DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I cant wait until the European/Mexican/Chinese parts that I order from the USA that always arrive with a customs declaration of Origin:USA … starts biting me in the ass because of their ignorance.
the better option is to just stop doing business with American shops. and thats what I’ve chosen, the USPS and Canadian Postal service are both such shitholes, that I have legitimatley recieved stuff from the UK, Poland and Denmark faster than I’ve recieved stuff fom Illinois and Iowa , in the orders I’ve made this year. For small things too.
JulieLemming@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s exciting time for smugglers. Ever wanted to be one now is prime business hours
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
I bought a bunch of electronics from China back in December. No regrets.
60d@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
…so you ordered this in July when he announced the tariffs?
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 3 months ago
I got my Kobo eReader literally days ago, phew
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Any news about your part Sir_Kevin? I’m curious if anything has happened since Trump already backpedaled a bit.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Honestly; I’m impressed they both messaged you and gave you options.
Usually you wouldn’t find out until the mailman is demanding payment for the package he’s holding in front of you.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Is the USPS even equipped to collect customs fees? As USian I’ve never paid an import fee as an end consumer ever in my entire life. All of this is so stupid.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
The CBP collect import taxes. You never had to pay it because there was a longstanding rule called “De Minimis” which excepted all items under $800 from import taxes. the 2nd trump administration overturned the De Minimis rule (does not require congress AFIAK).
b3an@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Right?? My first thought was, damn. That’s some good customer service 🤯