I had an employee review with my manager this week, at my request. She told me she wasn’t comfortable uptraining me right now even though they badly need the help in the position I asked to be crosstrained for, because they’d rather hire someone just for the role; but we could talk about it again in two months. After a little digging, I found that (A) they can’t afford to lose me from my lower-paid role and (2) they know I’m looking for another job and don’t want to train me until I demonstrate I’m planning to stay.
My response is that (A) well you’re definitely gonna lose me now and (2) I’m definitely no longer willing to stay.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
So… Doing your job well is “quiet quitting” now? I don’t want my boss to think I’m quiet quitting, I Guess I’ll have to underperform instead.
Quiet firing on the other hand is giving raises that are under inflation. Companies should stop this quiet firing shit.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Giving raises? My employer quiet quit that more than a decade ago. Meanwhile inflation and price gouging march on.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
What proportion of people have jumped ship in the last ~8 years as a result? (Understand you could have good reason for sticking around.)
Pohl@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Really? Like you have honestly stayed in a job for ten years without any increase in comp?
Wages have skyrocketed over the last 3 years and you are still willing to take what you were offered in 2014?
My instinct is that this is total bullshit but if it is not, please, I’m begging you, go get a new job and pass on anything that isn’t at least 60% more than your current wage.
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
I fail to see how we are responsible for the emotional well being of our management. Did I do my job? Yep! Did I do it well? Yep! Stand and deliver thy raise O manager, or face the wrath of my competing job offer.
Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 months ago
News organizations have employees as well. It doesn’t surprise me that they are in on the gaslighting.
DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
If they don’t play ball, you think they’ll keep their job?
snooggums@midwest.social 6 months ago
It was always a stupid fucking term that equates doing a job with quitting.
Not increasing pay isn’t quit firing, because there is no firing. It is just businesses being stingy.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 6 months ago
it’s constructive dismissal.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Not increasing pay with inflation is a pay cut because your pay is literally worth less without it.
In a sane world, if the fed is dictating the money supply, with their actions directly impacting inflation, every workers pay should be indexed to inflation. Same goes for taxation, welfare payments, etc. Companies raise their prices regardless.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I agree it’s a dumb term, so I made up my own dumb term. (At least I think I made it up)
Employees are allowed to be just as stingy as businesses.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Quiet quitting: doing what you’re paid for
Normal working: doing what you’re paid for but also asking managers for more work when you’re done -> that’s what’s expected from management and also takes some load off their shoulders, they love that
Over achievement: doing what you’re paid for and more without asking management -> management will promise you a seat at the table of you continue doing that long enough!
If there’s advancement opportunities try to do the second one until you reach a point where you’re happy and then do the first one :)
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Hahaha someone’s living in fairy land.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Tell me you’re 14 and have never worked a day in your life without telling me you’re 14 and have never worked a day in your life.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
This person is a manager
uberdroog@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Or crawl so far up management’s ass while throwing all your coworkers under the bus. THAT is how you get ahead. Stepping on your coworkers.
irmoz@reddthat.com 6 months ago
I actually thought you were joking until the last paragraph
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Quiet quitting is the practice of meeting minimum expectations with low moral or engagement. Underperforming could lead to termination for not meeting minimum expectations.
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Woosh.
Also quiet quitting isn’t anything except a bullshit term dreamed up by capitalist crybabies.
anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Then just make the minimum 30 pieces of flair 🙄
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The issue many people have is how some bosses redefine underperforming as “not doing enough unpaid overtime”.
HubertManne@kbin.social 6 months ago
this. every so often someone posts an article on how wages are beating inflation and im like. where? who? this is not my experience.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
If you want an inflation beating raise, you need to get a new job. Companies have long since stopped caring about employee retention.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Probably if you take an average and include the multimillionaires getting bigger raises.
glimse@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve taken a pay cut two years in a row for that reason. Last year was somewhat understandable with the insane inflation but this year kind of stung
boatswain@infosec.pub 6 months ago
How is taking a pay cut when there’s massive inflation even remotely understandable? Inflation means that they need to pay you more, not less; your costs are rising.
el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Find another job. You’ll quickly find out if you are worth the raise you wanted. My bet is you are.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 months ago
I can’t wait until AI hits these middle managers that were just enough good at their jobs to earn a promotion and now spend their days sending angry emails to the people that actually do the work, while collecting more income than the workers… 🖕
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
AI’s can do their job right now. Haven’t you ever seen an AI not work right?
(Most managers suck, I like mine right now, and it’s odd. He’s stuck in meetings all day so I’m not. )
dojan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Quiet quitting” is a bullshit term meaning to do your job but nothing above or beyond that. Joshua Fluke has done multiple videos on this BS, and at this point there are plenty of other idiotic terms thrown around to try and make workers look bad.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Bosses everywhere: taking notes “no… more… raises.” sets down the notepad “see, now they are speaking my language!”