What kind of institutional gaslighting is this?

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• EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wanna punch Olive.

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• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Funny and strange that the article came from The Irish Times. I live in Ireland, and foreign nationals love to work here because of more laidback working culture. This is not “quiet quitting” in the Irish context, it’s “as long as all your work is done, you can do whatever the fuck you want.”

  I have culture shock hearing from others who worked abroad and say how toxic the work environments are in some places. I had co-workers from Spain and Portugal say you can get pressured to work on weekends, or do tasks outside of working hours. Verbal abuse and shouting also happens more frequently.

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  • pathief@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I worked on one of the largest Portuguese tech companies, it was kinda dependent on the business area. In the telcos department I barely had to do any overtime. My colleagues in the banking department, however, wouldn’t ever see the light of day. They arrived before sunrise and left long after sunfall. Projects were submitted at a loss to in the hope of netting future projects. Developers were supposed to work overtime to compensate this… If you refused to work overtime your carreer would have and at that company.

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• Mango@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bro, what can I even say to this??! 😂

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• griD@feddit.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not astonishing, as it is in line with THE major belief of conservatives, i.e. a person’s status in live determines their worth and character traits.

  As an employee you are a bad person. Simple as.

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• derpgon@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I love the desperate calls. But not instantly, you get them like a week later, every single time. Sometimes they schedule a super important meeting where they HAVE TO talk to you and just cancel it a day or two before it because they realize it’s futile.

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• EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Translation: “Oh those poor poor billionaires! It’s not as easy for them to abuse their employees as it used to me!”

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• catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Can we stop calling every behavior we don’t like “gaslighting” already please?

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  • bilb@lem.monster ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s as if I’m being gaslit into thinking I don’t know what the word means!

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  • dystop@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    gaslighting noun gas·​light·​ing ˈgas-ˌlī-tiŋ : psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one’s emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator

    i’d say use of the word is actually accurate here

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• bquintb@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  God the status quo is fucking dopey. I hate this world.

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  • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nixing Google’s little spyware from the end of that link

    I am not a bot, and this action was performed manually

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    • MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That is exactly what a bot would say.

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• yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Translation: “Workers aren’t happy with their pay and we keep refusing to give them a raise despite noticing a ceiling in their productivity.”

  PAY. THEM. MORE.

  Labor isn’t free, you cheapskate bastards.

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• friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I see a lot of people complaining about the term “quiet quitting.” In this thread there are people saying that that’s exactly what they want in a job, that that’s what they’ve been doing since before the term existed, etc…

  I’m curious what other succinct terms people would use to describe the act of doing the bare minimum and not engaging beyond what is required and asked for.

  I’m asking because I also dislike the term “quiet quitting”, and I know such an activity has existed forever. At the same time it does seem useful because I can’t think of a succinct way to describe what it explicitly describes. In the past it seems like such a behavior was implicit, but with modern “engagement” and “hustle” and “110%” work culture, it seems like we need a more explicit term.

  So, is there another term we can use that people don’t hate as much?

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  • HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Acting your wage.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you buy a monitor from Amazon, do you expect that they will thrown in another one for free?

    What about if you hire a plumber to come fixe a leaky pipe, do you expect them to install a new set of water taps for free while they’re at it?

    Do you go to McDonalds and expect a posh table waiter, and a complimentary bottle of Beaujoulais wine along with lightly seasoned oregano and olive oil garlick bread, for the price of a Big Mac?

    So why expect that workers will do more work than what they are being paid for?!

    If it’s only a business relationship, as those very same managers treat it when it’s time for layoffs or when giving below inflation raises because the job market isn’t tight and they can easilly find replacements, then it’s only fair that workers too treaty it as only a business relationship and only provide the level of service they’re being paid for.

    If they want the haute cuisine Michellin Starred service they’re gonna have to pay more than McDonald prices.

    The whole calling it “quiet quiting” is just a reflection of the moneyed class wanting to, as the Brits would call it, eat the cake and still have it afterwards.

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  • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m curious what other succinct terms people would use to describe the act of doing the bare minimum and not engaging beyond what is required and asked for.

    Working. Doing the job for which you were hired.

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  • guy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Work-to-rule

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    • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That implies malice though, which I don’t like. What’s malicious about doing exactly what we agreed I’m paid to do, nothing more, and leaving when the whistle blows? In a job market where promotions are a pipe dream and equitable raises not far from it, why should I waste my time trying to impress someone that won’t reciprocate?

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  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m curious what other succinct terms people would use to describe the act of doing the bare minimum and not engaging beyond what is required and asked for.

    Perhaps these aren’t punchy, but that’s also why we’re stuck with awful things like “quiet quitting”. But these capture the correct (IMO) sentiment:

    • “Adhering to the employment contract.”
    • “Doing my job.”
    • “Meeting documented expectations.”
    • “Following management’s lead.”

    The last one is important. There’s a concept of “modeling” in terms of providing strong examples of allowed/expected behavior in the workplace. If management really wants people to go above and beyond, that change starts with a show of the same on their part. I would bet that a lot of frustrated managers are themselves not putting in the extra effort, or do not make a show of it.

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  • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    high quality working. individuals really need to lower the bar. when I was young the expectation when hiring minum wage was if you got someone who showed up, on time, consistantly and was not drunk or on drugs. that was a high quality hire. workers need to learn to slack like the 80's.

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  • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doing your job

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  • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Being normal.

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  • Shortstack@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Back in the big union days, this was called “work to rule”, as in you worked exactly to the letter of your job and not an inch more.

    Supposedly it was a union tactic to fight back if the company wasn’t playing fair or wasn’t playing ball at the negotiating table

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• niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This has got to be made by the same type of shitheads who churn out clickbait excrement every five minutes, in a different section of the clickbait excrement factory, opposite side of where they churn out
  “Physicist Brian Cox’s terrifying reveal - CERN at Switzerland unlocked demon forces, world’s end by 2025”.

  Or you’re being trolled and got those big red shiny buttons pushed.

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• NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “How dare the slaves have time for other things and not prioritize our profits first?”

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• Damage@feddit.it ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is this someone just looking have their name circulated, no matter what? It’s a bit over the top.

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• feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How do I get a “career” that pays more cm minimum wage, there’s some kind of occult mix of words and body language I’m just not getting. Am I autistic? I don’t care.

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• Binthinkin@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have been in corporate management and you should all fuck them over as much as possible because they intentionally do it to workers because they’re too lazy to sit and listen to their own compassion in leadership courses.

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• edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  When “line go up” mentality gets applied to your workforce. God forbid they keep working to the same standard they always have, must be moar! Always moar!

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