The opening is too wide, the shower head should be a rainfall shower, not the Commando 450.
Doorless showers just make a mess and everything ends up wet
Submitted 3 weeks ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nah. Ours is a rainfall shower but the floor still gets wet.
Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you’re dead-on. I had a 5’ wide doorless shower, 3’ of glass, and a rainfall showerhead and it was fine. Minimal leakage
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Mine was fine till the kids grew up and wanted showers not baths. Water everywhere. Had to replace it with a sliding door
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’ve built three doorless showers.
rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can wash an elephant with that thing.
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Wouldn’t a handheld showerhead be even better? That way, you could aim the showerhead directly away from the opening, somewhat reducing the incidence of splashing.
I know from experience that it’s not sufficient, but I’m certain it minimizes the damage, and honestly I consider handheld showerheads to be superior regardless
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That just looks like an unfinished shower, or a sliding door set with a missing half. Maybe you could get a little shower curtain to hang up across the hole
YoFrodo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I encountered this exact setup at a hotel recently. This seems like a hotel as well with how those bottles are attached to the wall
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Looks like a hotel. Best just to ask the front desk for extra towels.
crank0271@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Peak aesthetics
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Why even have a doorless/curtainless shower? I don’t understand the appeal. How is the warmth supposed to stay in so you’re not shaving off the tips of goosebumps?
diablicja@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Shower doors are difficult to clean well, shower curtains stick to the body, space is limited (problem if you’re bigger), steam can make it harder to breathe…
Finns have figured out doorleess showers: they waterproof the whole room and equip it with a squeegee on a long stick. The floor is flat with a slight slope towards the drain. After you’re done you just wipe the floor with the squeegee (takes 10 seconds) and that’s it.
PagPag@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Japanese did it right. Essentially the same thing you’re describing and in a way that mitigates anything commenters below you blurted out.
Unfamiliar with Finnish techniques.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s still worse than just having a door. The squeegee helps, but it’s not perfect, and I hate stepping on wet/damp floor after drying my feet. I mostly see that style in hotels or bathrooms which are too tiny to fit a proper shower. Whenever not space constrained, I’m pretty sure they’re just there to save money.
Building code in most if not all of northern Europe require bathrooms to be a proper wet room, meaning waterproofing and a drain for all parts of the bathroom. This means either having two drains, or to allow water to flow from the rest of the bathroom to the shower. Guess which alternative is easier and cheaper to do?
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
But your towel would get damp. And your poor toothbrush is gonna taste like your brother’s shampoo!
Cherry@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I have had this style once. The shower head even reached around near the toilet, so when cleaning I could just hose the whole thing over, and then squidgee. Very convenient.
Strider@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well that’s just bad design. The opening is wrong so of course it’ll splash and the floor needs to be one level and tilted to the drain.
I’ve seen some really good ones that work
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Came here to say this, if don’t right they’re pretty sweet
rumba@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
we have one at work that doesn’t have any glass at all, just the plastic fixture. we installed a curtain rod because it felt strange but yeah drain in the shower basin and a decent floor grade, followed up by non-slip tile. Works a treat the whole 2 times I used it.
PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
Design is fine but it should be placed in the bathroom with tiles not in the midle of living room with wood floor… 😅
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I’m guessing (hoping) that’s not actual wood
majster@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Looks like plastic to me. Or ceramic in style of wood.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
As a disabled person who can’t sit or stand up doorless showers are my holy grail I could finally feel fucking clean instead of relying on sponge baths.
I could never afford it though and being severely disabled means I’m poor so yay capitalism.
ThanksForAllTheFish@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
No offense intended, but isn’t that why shower rooms were invented? Waterproof the walls/floor with that cheap plastic stuff, curved edges on the walls for easy cleaning, plastic curtain on rails on the ceiling for blocking most of the water. Slope it down into the floor drain. No steps or doors. Is there really no safety net to get this sort of thing installed where you live? I would happily contribute a bit to a gofundme link for this, and I’m sure there’s plenty of others who would too. Example gofundme.com/…/helping-ric-live-safely-in-his-lat… . Ideally social services should have grants for this sort of thing though. There may be one you can access depending on where you live, DM me and I’d happily put in a bit of research to help you find out if this is an option.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Yeah can’t afford that either. Can’t install anything because I’m renting, can’t be anything but renting because I’m disabled.
And the legal system I live under doesn’t have any law to make landlords follow accommodations…
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
the door on mine is a slider that can be moved with a feather.
eyekaytee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I could never afford it though and being severely disabled means I’m poor so yay capitalism.
damn capitalism, you could be dead or in a home somewhere! i bet you’re on welfare as well
Thoven@lemdro.id 3 weeks ago
What does a doorless shower offer that the same design with a door for that opening doesn’t? I would think there’s some accessible compromise that keeps the floor dry. Of course, the true holy grail would be the showers you sometimes see overseas where there’s a whole compartment built on a drain pan so the open door isn’t an inconvenience.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
need to be able to lay in the shower. Elevated threshold makes that impossible.
Cort@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m guessing the difference is the threshold height for the doors. Easier to get a wheelchair over a low or non-existent threshold
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
My fav is the ones that just say fuck it and make the whole bathroom into a shower; as if people don’t keep anything else in the bathroom, like idk towels or the clothes you’re putting on after you shower…
I didn’t want a practical bathroom anyway…
fireweed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is the way most Japanese showers are set up, and it works well because the shower/tub, toilet, and sink/storage area are three separate rooms.
Here is a (simplified approximation of a) common layout:
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
When the shower is literally alone in its own room, that’s a little different.
I’m talking about when the full bathroom; toilet, sink, and shower, are all in the one uninterrupted space.
Did Dave piss on the damn toilet seat again, or is it just splash from the shower? 🤷🏻
dingus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Interesting. I thought a lot of Japanese dwellings were smaller than the average American home. But I’m in the US and my entire bathroom is like between one third and one half of this image. I don’t have room for a setup like this without making the neighboring room significantlly smaller.
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Oh hey it’s the bathroom from my student campus housing
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Honestly, if it was built right, that would be the perfect type of bathroom. Imagine a bathroom where all the surfaces are water proof. Then, when it’s time to clean the bathroom, you just hose everything down the floor drain!
Sunspear@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
My uni dormitory bathroom was like that, a very tiny off-white plastic cube with a toilet, sink and shower in no more than about 2 square meters.
It looked like crap, especially with aging year by year, but it was really easy to clean indeed. Though if everything gets wet regularly, mold also has an easier time spreading, so we needed to do that “easier” cleaning more often as a result
Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Dont you just leave clothes in the spa area outside your shower room? I find it easier to dress there anyway since it got more room for movement
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
OFC, this is all on my multimillion dollar yacht after all…
miked@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I love bathrooms like these. Just put the towel on a hook and you are good to go.
ceenote@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I looked at an apartment once where they had a proper door-less shower. You had to, like, walk around a corner to enter it. I considered leasing that apartment just because of the shower, but yeah a proper door-less shower takes up a lot of space.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
They shouldn’t. If this is new enough construction, the contractor needs to fix this.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, I don’t get this new trend of doorless showers. One of the many modern interior designs I think are bad/ugly. What’s the deal with modern minimalism? Shit is ugly.
Also, this kind of design is gonna make for cold ass showers in the winter unless you pump your heat all day and night.
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is becoming a staple in cheap and mid-price hotels. I have to use half my towels to keep the floor from being wet.
HawtP0tat0@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Question on this… Why would you do that? Like 1 medium towel vaguely covers the wet area and its not like your probably sub-one-week stay is going to hurt anything if there is permanent water damage.
foodandart@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Get a spring-loaded window curtain rod, and notch the end that goes against the glass, so it doesn’t slip. Throw on a shower curtain liner (they’re cheap) and call it a day.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pretty sure that is a hotel room, nothing a customer could fix. Been to rooms like that and hated the shower.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Doorless showers are fine, but why is the floor in the bathroom not made of tiles, where it doesn’t matter as much when water spils? Strange decision by someone who either had no clue or didn’t care enough.
SpraynardKruger@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I think it’s this style of ceramic tile. They’re the hip thing U.S. contractors choose when doing new construction or renovations.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
looks like linoleum floor. or, it should be.
banause@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Supports my head
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I’ve briefly thought about it, but I would need to make the whole bathroom waterproof, and that stops the intrusive thoughts.
socsa@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You should really at least make the floor waterproof anyway. Every old shower floor I’ve torn out has water damage right outside the shower from the years of splashes and drips.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
And at that point, just get rid of the booth altogether and have the floor slope down towards the drainage hole. If you’re doing a renovation there anyway. You can still add a shower curtain if you want, or you can even skip that if the room is big enough. It’ll feel way less cramped.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I like my clawfoot tub too much to get rid of it
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Just need a layer of Ditra under the tile.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Understood, it’s just a bigger undertaking than I want to deal with. 100+ year old houses are a project on their own
Meatwagon@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I like the Japanese style ones where the entire bathroom is the shower. The floor is meant to be wet with the benefit of just being able to spray the entire bathroom down when it needs cleaning.
This one just makes no sense.
Folstar@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
Doorless showers are great for the elderly, disabled, orgies, you name it- WHEN DONE RIGHT. This is far from correct. The shower spray should be spraying away from the entry, not right fucking at it. It’s puzzling because it looks like the control valve is on the near side so they routed the head all the way around to be in the wrong place? Even then, this is kind of a small space for a doorless. Also, one of those stupid corner shelves and a safety handle way the fuck in the corner. Buy a shower rod and floor length curtain to hang inside the glass wall. It’ll be real fancy.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Every hotel ever these days it seems. I guess it’s cheaper than replacing a curtain, or the curtain rod every jackass seems to have to yank on and bend for some reason.
AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
That is not enough clearance, the door needed to be way longer
halezinflames@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
The door makes a world of difference
StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You really need a lip to stop spills, I wanted one for mine but didn’t have the space for it… So ended up with just a normal door (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you still are in that space, one of those things you can put over cables so you won’t trip over then would make a great lip
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Had a doorless one at my last place and it was great. The shower head was pointed at the side wall vs the open door, so maybe it kept it cleaner.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Then … then put a door on it!
Was the contractor sick? Did they get kidnapped by ICE and moved to one of their gulags? Is there a glass shortage in your area? Are you really cheap, and just didn’t want to pay for the full thing? Was Dinah Lance showering in there, and the water suddenly turned cold because someone flushed the toilet, and she screamed, shattering the glass? Did someone steal it because they needed to melt it down and reconfigure it for a place to store one of their victim’s freshly-lopped heads?
Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Calm down, it looks like a hotel.
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Come to Korea! Many bathrooms are just closets with a toilet and a sink with a shower head attached and you just shower in the bathroom and soak anything that’s in there.
AvaLord@gehirneimer.de 1 week ago
Exactly! They look nice, but I feel like a shower screen or door is much more practical. I don’t want water all over the bathroom every time I shower
kaotic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Meh. They can work if you have the space for them. This one is way to small. But I’ve seen really nice ones executed. You just need more space than most people have for the shower to occupy.
Psythik@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not only that, the draft coming in makes you freezing cold the entire time, forcing you to huddle under the water for most of your shower, thus wasting it and washing away the soap you’re trying to lather in.
A hotel I stayed at had this exact same shower and I can confirm that water did in fact get everywhere.
HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
When I used to install custom shower enclosures, I would quietly cringe every time someone wanted one of these awful things. What I would usually compromise with the customer on is, size the panel so that the walk-through opening was sized correctly to accept a stock door, if they want to add one later. I’d say more than half of clients would add the door less than a year later.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Perpetually wet bathroom
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I never understood the reason for open showers. “Enjoy your wet bathroom.”
ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
British? I swear the Brits still think it’s the feudal times with their two spouts sinks, half enclosed showers, light switches outside the bathroom, and of course driving on the incorrect side of the bloody damned road! Yes I bitter much… at least the French have the food to make up for their eccentricities.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People want them but they don’t want to admit that they don’t have enough space for one that properly works.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
They’re terrible. Everything you said is true, but I’ll add that unless you crank up the heat in the room, they’re miserable on cold days. The enclosed showers trap the steam and warmth from the how water in with you, but with no door it’s just cold.
varyingExpertise@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Hm. My bathroom is always 23°C or warmer, no matter the weather. When is colder outside, my heat pump delivers more warm water to the heating circuits. Does heating in the US work differently?
dai@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thought that heat lamps might get rid of the chill factor?
I have 3+ meter ceilings in all rooms including the bathroom, and the heat lamps are a godsend in winter.
I’m looking to renovate the bathroom over the coming years and thought that an open space shower might be a great addition but maybe we will reconsider.
I do like the Japanese prefab wet bathroom units, but not sure if they are available here, nor if the other half would approve.
0x0@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Water, the anarchist.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
The Conquest of Wet
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Who wants one, and why?
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I do. But a proper one. A proper one looks like something you’d see in a change room. All tiled. No glass that is a PITA to keep clean. No curtain that gets disgusting. Just step in, shower, step out.
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But that stuff is out of reach to most people, including myself. Some people are still trying to imitate that with those compact ones but it’s just not the same.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I do and I have one. The downstairs shower next to the sauna is just an entire tiled room so I don’t feel like I’m in a cramped space. I always use that one, even in the winter when it’s basically freezing down there, because I hate the cramped booth upstairs, I have very broad shoulders and can always feel like I’m going to hit the walls.
The one in the OP is the worst of both worlds though. Still cramped, but doesn’t keep water in like a regular shower booth… and it’s installed in a bathroom without a proper tiled floor…