Apparently there will be some boycott of PS in regards of decision to discontinue disks.
From 23 to 30 of August.
👏 Businesses don’t give a fuck about a timed boycott👏
PSBLACKOUT (boycott of PlayStation)
Submitted 3 weeks ago by mecen@lemmy.ca to games@lemmy.world
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ceenote@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
popcar2@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Seriously, timed blackouts and petitions are just being performative. If someone actually cares, sell your ps5/move to another platform. Nothing else matters. This is like how sports game fans complain every year that the game sucks but are still willing to drop 100 dollars on it.
Mikina@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
mecen@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Agreed it should be: starting 23 of August not purchasing any digital games and microtransactions. It would hurt Sony the most
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
this is a pretty accurate representation of most current day boycotts.
Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yup. People can’t sacrifice anything these days to make a statement.
What is especially frustrating is how quickly these corporations would fold under pressure. Take a principled position for 1 week and watch what happens.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Hm I wonder if that list of 17 pages is perhaps sorted to show people in the game who may have either accidentally clicked the join button or are new.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nah, it’s indicative of how g*mers act.
BoneheadBruin@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
? I mean obviously there’s the possibility of it being shopped but there’s no sort order you could do where Borderlands, Dragon Age, and Team Fortress would all be up there mixed in to the Call of Duty players while still showing primarily Call of Duty in the middle of the list.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Thats a weird one because Activision wants mw2 players to stop playing. They refuse the patch an RCE in multiplayer. These people are probably playing on the private servers. But if they spend any time on the game thats time away from where Activision wants them which is on the new game.
lorty@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
That image is from when the original mw2 came out
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
At least peer to peer works theoretically forever though.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dang. Guess I’m gonna have to go yet another week keeping my PS2 offline.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
My PS3 will have to stay thoroughly boxed up on the basement.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 weeks ago
I won’t be turning mine on, but that’s only because I recently hacked my GameCube, so I’ll be playing that until I decide to go back.
hakase@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
GameCube is still by far the best way to play Game Boy Advance on original hardware. Hacking it to play in 240p gives a wonderfully crisp image, and it’s a lot easier now than it used to be, especially now that we have alternatives to needing the Game Boy Player disk.
I used my hacked Game Boy Player to play through Golden Sun 1 and 2 on my 20" Ikegami PVM and it was a glorious experience.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I’m in.
Admittedly I don’t own a PlayStation.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I haven’t owned a Sony console since the PS2, but I will gladly double, even triple, my effort to continue to do nothing!
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m with ya brother! I do miss the eye toy and it’s 4 games. Seeing what Sony did to neuter the PS3 was enough to smell the way that wind was blowing. Emulators now… That’s another thing.
dan1101@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You already won vs Sony!
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Why 1 week? Just do it indefinitely.
If you have to be digital anyway, move to the platform that respects you. Or at least the one where you have more control. And where there are indie titles out the wazoo. And you don’t have to pay an additional subscription just to play with your friends.
rursta@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
proper boycotts were outdoors.
CEOs actually fled for their lives.This is a performance.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
💯
It’s assimilation to a system rather than a rejection to change it.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Wouldn’t even be surprised if Sony organised this it’s so pathetic. Let’s people vent for a week and then all over I guess. Why would they even bother changing?
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Boycotting with a small window, isn’t the whole war, it’s just one shot fired. It gives them an idea of the numbers involved, the amount of people who disagree with their policy, and an idea we won’t just forget and roll over. If they ignore the first shot fired, you fire more, and you get bigger with every shot fired. It’s got to effect their bottom line, or they will ignore it. People who entirely abstain are just measured as not in the argument at all. You don’t give them pressure by never owning a PlayStation. You just aren’t a customer. They count customers. It would even be worthwhile to create a PlayStation account, log in the day before the boycott, and log out for the duration, then log in again the day after the end, so you have a measurable voice in the movement. If you went to their offices, you would just look clinically unhinged, and they would just involve police, and ignore you.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I hate to say it, but your argument is just about assimilation to a system and working within it.
Boycotting with a small window, isn’t the whole war, it’s just one shot fired. It gives them an idea of the numbers involved, the amount of people who disagree with their policy, and an idea we won’t just forget and roll over.
Why must we “give them an idea.” Just do what you say in the very next line:
It’s got to effect their bottom line, or they will ignore it.
Don’t announce an ending to it. Your idea of “let’s fire one shot, and another, and another” is an assimilation tactic within the system, not revolutionary and really only succeeds in exhausting those who seek to fight back.
People who entirely abstain are just measured as not in the argument at all. You don’t give them pressure by never owning a PlayStation. You just aren’t a customer. They count customers.
If they have less customers, does that not affect the bottom line? If they have less customers, and less capture of new customers, is that not…less customers? Therefore less potential ad delivery, less potential to purchase on the storefront, all leading to a lower bottom line?
It would even be worthwhile to create a PlayStation account, log in the day before the boycott, and log out for the duration, then log in again the day after the end, so you have a measurable voice in the movement.
Delete your account. By your same logic above, this would be the most devastating to their bottom line. Not only would they lose customer count, but they lose retention. Logging back in shows that they have nothing to worry about. It looks performative rather than a rejection of the systems in place.
If you went to their offices, you would just look clinically unhinged, and they would just involve police, and ignore you.
Sounds like you still fear them and aren’t willing to show true resolve. Why is it “clinically unhinged” to exercise a first amendment right? It’s the first amendment for a reason. Showing up en masse to peacefully protest would do more than “logging out for a week.” That’s just a vacation. That is where time should be spent by organizers, instead.of organizing 23 weeklong boycotts across the next 2 years, organize a protest and help folks get there with a cohesive message and demands. And, arguably, executives should be scared. They use fear against us all the time, fear we’ll lose our purchases, fear we’ll lose our jobs, our healthcare. The point of a protest, the point of a boycott, is to remind them who holds the power.
Dookieman12@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Boycotts don’t have start dates. They happen as soon as someone says it happens and you’re either in, or you’re out.
Boycotts don’t have end dates. They happen until demands are met. If that means you never buy/do that thing again, so be it. If you’re not prepared to commit all the way, don’t participate.
Over time, the definition of “boycott” has been watered down to make people forget what makes a boycott effective. People have forgotten that the Montgomery Alabama bus boycotts lasted for literal years and saw people donating time and money to fixing up old cars, horse-drawn carriages, and carpooling to make them effective.
If you want real change, you have to be prepared to take real action. This one week boycott is pussy shit and won’t solve anything. If you’re gonna organize, do it for something that will work.
The boycott begins today. Right now. No more PS+ logins or payment. No more buying new games or consoles. No more anything that puts money in Sony’s pocket (buying used is fine, that money only goes to the reseller) and it lasts until Sony reverses its decision to stop printing physical games.
If we want to continue boycotting until they revise their digital licensing, we can demand that once we’ve made progress on the physical media. That’s what everyone cares about, so let’s keep the demands short and simple with that as the only one.
jownz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Couldn’t agree more!
Just cancelled my PS+ subscription with reason “other”.
I’ll see you all on the seven seas!
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wait so you’re going to stop buying physical PlayStation games and instead …. pirate pc games?
Reviever@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
but it makes those people feel good about themselves.
kevinsky@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Gamers are notoriously bad at voting with their wallet so i’m very curious to see what comes of this.
I mean all the power to anybody that actually participates in this but effective boycots don’t usually have a start or end date. This looks more like a strike.
You’re going to need to get everybody to abandon Sony indefinately. Preferably from right now.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, switching to PC is a significantly more effective boycott strategy. You can still play games and give Sony $0.
kevinsky@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
However, you aren’t locked into PS’ store and things like GOG exist. I make a point to buy games on GOG, and so should anyone interested in OP’s boycott.
While this is true, releases on GOG are few and far between and all the other stores are just (bad) variations of the same thing.
We have “competition” on pc in online stores because some publishers are big enough to build their own just so they don’t have to pay Valve to be on Steam. You are not technically locked to one store, but you are very much locked to whatever store publishers choose to push their game to. So you’re locked to all of them unless you choose to just not play said game, which is essentially the same choice you have on the Playstation with the PS store.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The comparison still doesn’t make sense. You can’t play a PlayStation disc on a different platform. If you buy a disc on console you are locked to that ecosystem.
Sony are doing this because not enough people buy discs to make it worth manufacturing, and PC gamers should know this because this new age of digital gaming started with the PC. Switching to PC just proves their point.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re actually very good at voting with their wallet for the most part. A minority of them are just very dumb and vote against what they’re claiming they want.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Nah, the majority of gamers just don’t care.
They just want to play their games and as long as it isn’t too many hoops to jump through will stick with Playstation. They didn’t even read the news about physical media.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think part of it is people don’t forego convenience but also that we’ve allowed corporations to cement hegemonies that there honestly is very little ability to boycott.
Some industries are so centralized it’s impossible to effectively boycott and vote with your wallet.
r1veRRR@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
This is the crowd that preorders a DIGITAL ONLY game that hasn’t released a single lick of gameplay video. GTA 6 is proof that capital g Gamers are a lost cause.
The sane people that game have to just stay away from all the ball and gun Gamers, and support the indie scene.
Davel23@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Surely it'll work this time!
Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
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if its longer than a week maybe, a week boycott is just a piss in the wind.
For perspective, the Montgomery bus boycott, which is usually used as a prime example of how well boycotts can work, lasted for 381 days.
But yea a 1 week surely will do something.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Lol, a single week? So pathetic. I am sure that will show them…
You voted with your wallet for this when you bought into their bullshit.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You voted with your wallet for this when you bought into their bullshit.
You spent a single dollar at the company so you support everything they do is reductive and juvenile. Try engaging your brain.
Starski@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You spent a single dollar at the company so you support everything you do
Is a reductive an juvenile way of interpreting the original comment, how ironic. He’s right, it seems during weekends peak PlayStation users go above 100 million, which would mean if even 1 million people followed this boycott, that’s less than 1% of their active user base. It’s too late, and it’s because people like you spend hundreds of dollars for their hardware and service, year after year, and then you belittle it because you’re in denial of making an awful decision.
Sasquatch@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
The voting happened when this statistically average individual bought digital games over physical, or, after purchasing a physical disk, downloaded any updates.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
A boycott that lasts months or years on the other hand…
dustyData@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m happy to proclaim entering my 30th continuous year of Sony boycotting. Where’s my award?
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My son who plays all the time going go whole month without turning on his PS5.
Fucking week! Thought it whole month of August? Also why wait towards the end? Such weak shit. Why bother they won’t even notice.
Can we please extend this for whole month starting on August the 1st?
nullspace@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A single week is a realistic goal.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Realistic in the sense that its easy and won’t do anything I guess.
Although what does not playing your games even achieve? It has a larger cost on you than it does on Sony. Playing games you already bought doesn’t even benefit them.
Surely more effective and easier would be to keep playing the games you already have and just to indefinitely refuse to ever buy another Sony product. You don’t lose anything you already had that way and they take a massive hit on future sales.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I never understood these. Then the week after y’all will come back business as usual. How does it actually affect anything?
I owned a ps3. Last one I’ve owned. That’s how you do it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How does it actually affect anything?
It gives certain social influencers a soapbox from which they can shout “Like, Subscribe, and Share!”
Modern day “boycotts” aren’t really economic actions. They’re media stunts advanced by affinity marketing groups intended to collect personal information and demonstrate their ability to mobilize large numbers of people.
zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Agreed on the last part. But a less cynical take: Companies like Sony obsessively track their sales metrics. If a campaign like this does go viral, and only a few percent of people actually follow through, it does create a noticeable dip in the metrics and an explanation will be demanded internally. There’s a small chance this makes certain managers a bit more careful about such decisions. In rare cases companies have taken back or at least delayed similar calls, and they don’t do so without an indication that it will affect their bottom line.
Though I don’t think this campaign will have much effect, since asking for a full week is not something a lot of people will follow through with. Also Sony is clearly banking on the fact that customers will stay due to lock-in to their ecosystem.
BurgerBaron@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Yep. The hill my new console owning habits died on was any corp pushing paying to play online subscriptions and I stuck to that. I’ll buy used later if there’s exclusives I want.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yeah I went from Sega to ps3 to switch 1 to nothing. But I’ve always owned a PC.
I still really want to play bloodborne, the emulation was rough when I tried it last, but I’m not gonna buy a ps4 just for one game.
Zinck@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Are we Reddit now? A boycott indicating the time it’s over so they now when things go back to usual?
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Oh yeah like the API hissy fits that shown just how weak reddit protests really are.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
The reddit api protest was actually effective if people actually reacted properly. Shutting down the subreddit made reddit go a step to far and force them open. That should have destroyed the community trust in reddit and caused a mass migration. But alas apathy
voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
It will convince some, but probably not enough to make a difference. Sony is betting that the increased revenue per customer will greatly offset those choosing to leave their platform.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 weeks ago
Hey now, I’ve been here for 3 years and my reddit accounts haven’t seen a login since. If everyone else went back that’d on them.
Cypher45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Wow! It’s worthless!
As if a back out will convince a corporation that they are doing bad things and give up and change their minds.
Remember reddit black out?
Dookieman12@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
A boycott with a deadline isn’t a boycott; it’s barely a demonstration. A boycott is until demands are met, no sooner. This is controlled opposition. If you want your demands met, don’t waste your time organizing for anything less than a real (full, indefinite) boycott.
blackouttripleseven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
the reddit thing failed bc the blackout had an end date, so this will fail too
if yall want to make a noticeable impact then stop using playstation (or sony) services until they revert their decision
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Why bother.
Leave Sony. Dont threaten. I walked away after the ps2.
The hardware is the problem and everyone seems to act like the physical media is the issue.
Open hardware or gtfo.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Cancelling PS Plus would be a much better move. I only use my PS5 for YouTube nowadays, so I won’t be participating since I have to log in for that. But I won’t be playing any games on it or buying anything.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m doing a #psblackout since I was born but it didn’t change anything
Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I see these things and laugh every time. One week or even one moth is meaningless, you have to commit. Boycott until you see the change you want. I’ve been boycotting EA for over a decade now, still haven’t see any change but I feel better knowing I am not giving them money.
pory@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
1: nobody’s going to do it
2: this is completely boneless. It’s not even calling for people to cancel their PS+ subscriptions.
Krudler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m still pissed at Sony for the rootkit fiasco. I have not willingly spent one penny on their products since then.
Wranglyph@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Why stop at just a taste?
creamfresh@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not buying a product because you don’t like the product is not a boycott.
r3g3n3x@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
These sort of things, if unorganized, just show corps and govs that nothing will change because there is no real organization beyond a call to action.
The real thing to do here is to organize something. Get people to sign up, just a simple list of everyone that agrees to it. Set up some sort of text or mailing list as a reminder, and actually do the thing. This is probably one of the most likely “protests” to succeed with proper organization and initiative because all those that participate have to do is not log on for a day.
It’s gotta be a place to start.
87Six@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Console plebs won’t ever even become aware of the boycott.
noxypaws@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I could not possibly use my PS5 less. As much as I’d like to actively participate in this boycott, I am only able to passively participate by continuing to neglect my PS5 in favor of PC gaming on linux, which is better in every possible way anyways.
Reygle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Have not purchased any Sony consoles or games for Playstation since the PS2. Get on my level!
nadram@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cool, but maybe every month instead of a one time thing
MasutaHarada@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Should be one year at minimum , but knowing how game consumers behaviour through decade, i doubt they have the patience, this is group of consumer that spend their money on digital per order repeatedly while taking queue in blind morning for their favorite content excitedly, it is lost cause.
bloogoose@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Then when Sony doesn’t change y’all go back to playing and buying… Fuck I can’t deal with this performative bullshit anymore.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Don’t think casual gamers will care about this. Most will probably just boot up their games on PlayStation after a long day of work or university.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Halo releases this week. Sony isn’t going to notice anything.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
We still doin halos?