Submitted 1 day ago by mecen@lemmy.ca to games@lemmy.world
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Apparently there will be some boycott of PS in regards of decision to discontinue disks.
From 23 to 30 of August.
just a week?
the sentiment is nice, but those are rookie numbers. gotta pump it up to at least a month or three.
director boards don’t care unless the quarter looks bad.
Babysteps brother. The roaring blaze of a revolution starts with an ember
You know who would say economic boycotts don’t do aifnything? A lot of people disguising Target a couple years ago. You could ask their CEO at that time, bit he was fired after they set the record for consecutive weeks losing value on their stock.
If you have a console, join in. Maybe they will feel it. AND REMEMBER , one corporation always works to give the others cover to follow. So if you have another console, support. Do it, and tell friends
Don’t think casual gamers will care about this. Most will probably just boot up their games on PlayStation after a long day of work or university.
👏 Businesses don’t give a fuck about a timed boycott👏
Seriously, timed blackouts and petitions are just being performative. If someone actually cares, sell your ps5/move to another platform. Nothing else matters. This is like how sports game fans complain every year that the game sucks but are still willing to drop 100 dollars on it.
Agreed it should be: starting 23 of August not purchasing any digital games and microtransactions. It would hurt Sony the most
this is a pretty accurate representation of most current day boycotts.
Yup. People can’t sacrifice anything these days to make a statement.
What is especially frustrating is how quickly these corporations would fold under pressure. Take a principled position for 1 week and watch what happens.
Hm I wonder if that list of 17 pages is perhaps sorted to show people in the game who may have either accidentally clicked the join button or are new.
Nah, it’s indicative of how g*mers act.
? I mean obviously there’s the possibility of it being shopped but there’s no sort order you could do where Borderlands, Dragon Age, and Team Fortress would all be up there mixed in to the Call of Duty players while still showing primarily Call of Duty in the middle of the list.
Thats a weird one because Activision wants mw2 players to stop playing. They refuse the patch an RCE in multiplayer. These people are probably playing on the private servers. But if they spend any time on the game thats time away from where Activision wants them which is on the new game.
That image is from when the original mw2 came out
At least peer to peer works theoretically forever though.
Works for me. My last Playstation was a PS2 lol. Been gaming on PC for over 20 years.
Gamers are notoriously bad at voting with their wallet so i’m very curious to see what comes of this.
I mean all the power to anybody that actually participates in this but effective boycots don’t usually have a start or end date. This looks more like a strike.
You’re going to need to get everybody to abandon Sony indefinately. Preferably from right now.
Yeah, switching to PC is a significantly more effective boycott strategy. You can still play games and give Sony $0.
However, you aren’t locked into PS’ store and things like GOG exist. I make a point to buy games on GOG, and so should anyone interested in OP’s boycott.
While this is true, releases on GOG are few and far between and all the other stores are just (bad) variations of the same thing.
We have “competition” on pc in online stores because some publishers are big enough to build their own just so they don’t have to pay Valve to be on Steam. You are not technically locked to one store, but you are very much locked to whatever store publishers choose to push their game to. So you’re locked to all of them unless you choose to just not play said game, which is essentially the same choice you have on the Playstation with the PS store.
The comparison still doesn’t make sense. You can’t play a PlayStation disc on a different platform. If you buy a disc on console you are locked to that ecosystem.
Sony are doing this because not enough people buy discs to make it worth manufacturing, and PC gamers should know this because this new age of digital gaming started with the PC. Switching to PC just proves their point.
They’re actually very good at voting with their wallet for the most part. A minority of them are just very dumb and vote against what they’re claiming they want.
Nah, the majority of gamers just don’t care.
They just want to play their games and as long as it isn’t too many hoops to jump through will stick with Playstation. They didn’t even read the news about physical media.
I think part of it is people don’t forego convenience but also that we’ve allowed corporations to cement hegemonies that there honestly is very little ability to boycott.
Some industries are so centralized it’s impossible to effectively boycott and vote with your wallet.
This is the crowd that preorders a DIGITAL ONLY game that hasn’t released a single lick of gameplay video. GTA 6 is proof that capital g Gamers are a lost cause.
The sane people that game have to just stay away from all the ball and gun Gamers, and support the indie scene.
Boycotts don’t have start dates. They happen as soon as someone says it happens and you’re either in, or you’re out.
Boycotts don’t have end dates. They happen until demands are met. If that means you never buy/do that thing again, so be it. If you’re not prepared to commit all the way, don’t participate.
Over time, the definition of “boycott” has been watered down to make people forget what makes a boycott effective. People have forgotten that the Montgomery Alabama bus boycotts lasted for literal years and saw people donating time and money to fixing up old cars, horse-drawn carriages, and carpooling to make them effective.
If you want real change, you have to be prepared to take real action. This one week boycott is pussy shit and won’t solve anything. If you’re gonna organize, do it for something that will work.
The boycott begins today. Right now. No more PS+ logins or payment. No more buying new games or consoles. No more anything that puts money in Sony’s pocket (buying used is fine, that money only goes to the reseller) and it lasts until Sony reverses its decision to stop printing physical games.
If we want to continue boycotting until they revise their digital licensing, we can demand that once we’ve made progress on the physical media. That’s what everyone cares about, so let’s keep the demands short and simple with that as the only one.
Couldn’t agree more!
Just cancelled my PS+ subscription with reason “other”.
I’ll see you all on the seven seas!
Wait so you’re going to stop buying physical PlayStation games and instead …. pirate pc games?
but it makes those people feel good about themselves.
Why bother.
Leave Sony. Dont threaten. I walked away after the ps2.
The hardware is the problem and everyone seems to act like the physical media is the issue.
Open hardware or gtfo.
I have a couple PS3’s. Bought used. No online games. I think I’ve bought more of their titles on PC than console.
It’s not even a boycott, I just haven’t seen value in their recent offerings and would rather spend my money elsewhere.
There’s some stuff I’d love to experience on the PS5.
But I will not be spending nearly a thousand dollars for a set top box with limited functionality they can effectively disable when I’m no longer making them enough money.
And with SteamOS getting better and better, the convenience of a console over a PC is becoming less of a thing.
Honestly, once SteamOS has dedicated apps for things like Hulu and Netflix, I think we can really change things. Right now my parents have an Xbox where my Dad can play an occasional game, but the interface is simple enough for my Mom to open her streaming apps. Once SteamOS gets that simple, I’ll be switching them over.
I don’t think steam will ever have those things. But streaming devices are dirt cheap. The issue is codecs.
On the other hand I do have Plex and jellyfin on my steam deck to watch my shows when I am flying.
Dang. Guess I’m gonna have to go yet another week keeping my PS2 offline.
My PS3 will have to stay thoroughly boxed up on the basement.
I won’t be turning mine on, but that’s only because I recently hacked my GameCube, so I’ll be playing that until I decide to go back.
GameCube is still by far the best way to play Game Boy Advance on original hardware. Hacking it to play in 240p gives a wonderfully crisp image, and it’s a lot easier now than it used to be, especially now that we have alternatives to needing the Game Boy Player disk.
I used my hacked Game Boy Player to play through Golden Sun 1 and 2 on my 20" Ikegami PVM and it was a glorious experience.
Wow! It’s worthless!
As if a back out will convince a corporation that they are doing bad things and give up and change their minds.
Remember reddit black out?
Yep. I also still remember the last PS blackout. That was 24 days.
Sony is going to wipe their tears with all the money they have made from their player base.
I’m gonna change my profile pic in support
/s
Why 1 week? Just do it indefinitely.
If you have to be digital anyway, move to the platform that respects you. Or at least the one where you have more control. And where there are indie titles out the wazoo. And you don’t have to pay an additional subscription just to play with your friends.
proper boycotts were outdoors.
CEOs actually fled for their lives.
This is a performance.
💯
It’s assimilation to a system rather than a rejection to change it.
Wouldn’t even be surprised if Sony organised this it’s so pathetic. Let’s people vent for a week and then all over I guess. Why would they even bother changing?
Boycotting with a small window, isn’t the whole war, it’s just one shot fired. It gives them an idea of the numbers involved, the amount of people who disagree with their policy, and an idea we won’t just forget and roll over. If they ignore the first shot fired, you fire more, and you get bigger with every shot fired. It’s got to effect their bottom line, or they will ignore it. People who entirely abstain are just measured as not in the argument at all. You don’t give them pressure by never owning a PlayStation. You just aren’t a customer. They count customers. It would even be worthwhile to create a PlayStation account, log in the day before the boycott, and log out for the duration, then log in again the day after the end, so you have a measurable voice in the movement. If you went to their offices, you would just look clinically unhinged, and they would just involve police, and ignore you.
I hate to say it, but your argument is just about assimilation to a system and working within it.
Boycotting with a small window, isn’t the whole war, it’s just one shot fired. It gives them an idea of the numbers involved, the amount of people who disagree with their policy, and an idea we won’t just forget and roll over.
Why must we “give them an idea.” Just do what you say in the very next line:
It’s got to effect their bottom line, or they will ignore it.
Don’t announce an ending to it. Your idea of “let’s fire one shot, and another, and another” is an assimilation tactic within the system, not revolutionary and really only succeeds in exhausting those who seek to fight back.
People who entirely abstain are just measured as not in the argument at all. You don’t give them pressure by never owning a PlayStation. You just aren’t a customer. They count customers.
If they have less customers, does that not affect the bottom line? If they have less customers, and less capture of new customers, is that not…less customers? Therefore less potential ad delivery, less potential to purchase on the storefront, all leading to a lower bottom line?
It would even be worthwhile to create a PlayStation account, log in the day before the boycott, and log out for the duration, then log in again the day after the end, so you have a measurable voice in the movement.
Delete your account. By your same logic above, this would be the most devastating to their bottom line. Not only would they lose customer count, but they lose retention. Logging back in shows that they have nothing to worry about. It looks performative rather than a rejection of the systems in place.
If you went to their offices, you would just look clinically unhinged, and they would just involve police, and ignore you.
Sounds like you still fear them and aren’t willing to show true resolve. Why is it “clinically unhinged” to exercise a first amendment right? It’s the first amendment for a reason. Showing up en masse to peacefully protest would do more than “logging out for a week.” That’s just a vacation. That is where time should be spent by organizers, instead.of organizing 23 weeklong boycotts across the next 2 years, organize a protest and help folks get there with a cohesive message and demands. And, arguably, executives should be scared. They use fear against us all the time, fear we’ll lose our purchases, fear we’ll lose our jobs, our healthcare. The point of a protest, the point of a boycott, is to remind them who holds the power.
I’m in.
Admittedly I don’t own a PlayStation.
I haven’t owned a Sony console since the PS2, but I will gladly double, even triple, my effort to continue to do nothing!
I’m with ya brother! I do miss the eye toy and it’s 4 games. Seeing what Sony did to neuter the PS3 was enough to smell the way that wind was blowing. Emulators now… That’s another thing.
You already won vs Sony!
remember when Sony was the only console with backwards compatibility? Pepperridge Farm Remembers.
Huh? You could play gameboy games on the SNES?!
Have not purchased any Sony consoles or games for Playstation since the PS2. Get on my level!
I was on team Dreamcast and never owned a Sony console! Welcome to my world!
Mine was a second hand PS1 that my brother played. Not sure I ever used it, maybe for a little twisted metal.
Good game. High five my fellow old fart (and non Playstation supporter)
When I saw them bait and switch Linux again with the ps3 I was done.
Ps2 the last sony.
Lol, a single week? So pathetic. I am sure that will show them…
You voted with your wallet for this when you bought into their bullshit.
A boycott with a deadline isn’t a boycott; it’s barely a demonstration. A boycott is until demands are met, no sooner. This is controlled opposition. If you want your demands met, don’t waste your time organizing for anything less than a real (full, indefinite) boycott.
Surely it'll work this time!
I’m still pissed at Sony for the rootkit fiasco. I have not willingly spent one penny on their products since then.
I’m doing a #psblackout since I was born but it didn’t change anything
Are we Reddit now? A boycott indicating the time it’s over so they now when things go back to usual?
Console plebs won’t ever even become aware of the boycott.
the reddit thing failed bc the blackout had an end date, so this will fail too
if yall want to make a noticeable impact then stop using playstation (or sony) services until they revert their decision
> Gamers when studios layoff thousands of workers:
Boycotts: 0
> Gamers when no discs:
I see these things and laugh every time. One week or even one moth is meaningless, you have to commit. Boycott until you see the change you want. I’ve been boycotting EA for over a decade now, still haven’t see any change but I feel better knowing I am not giving them money.
Should be one year at minimum , but knowing how game consumers behaviour through decade, i doubt they have the patience, this is group of consumer that spend their money on digital per order repeatedly while taking queue in blind morning for their favorite content excitedly, it is lost cause.
Cancelling PS Plus would be a much better move. I only use my PS5 for YouTube nowadays, so I won’t be participating since I have to log in for that. But I won’t be playing any games on it or buying anything.
1 day is not enough of a blip for them to even feel. make it a month
Easy I don’t own anything Sony besides a PS2
Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 minutes ago
Push for laws that force digital stores to provide full ownership of digital rights.
The ability to pass purchased licenses from one account to another would be a real game changer.
They’re trying to kill ownership completely, and this would blow it wide open.
And that could just be step one. We need assurances about what happens when a store closes (can we download everything and archive it and play offline? will it be moved to another provider?) We need the ability to move purchases between stores. Hell, even between platforms. We need to make sure accounts that have paid for goods cannot be completely revoked under any circumstances. Locked out of online play or prevented from making further purchases, sure, but never just blocked.
Law makers have sat idly by for too long as our rights were taken from us. It’s high time to take them back.