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<Right click> "Now where is copy?.. Copy copy copyyyaah here! " <click>
<slow mouse move to taskbar>
<click on the other program in the task bar>
<right click> “Aaaand… Paste” <click>
"There you go… "
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Submitted 3 weeks ago by morepoetrylessprose@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
foofiepie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Right click? Luxury! I’ve seen people go up to File>Edit far too many times.
OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Right click > more options (which summons a whole new menu) > copy > close the file explorer > open a new file explorer > navigate to desired folder > right click > paste > realize that the “copy”-button was misclicked and the clipboard is empty > close file explorer > open new file explorer > navigate to original file > repeat.
I watch this loop twice.
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s what purgatory is, just watching middle management navigating whatever systems you know best.
EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
At my old job, the CEO was showing me something and accidentally closed the tab. He started to go to his history, and I said Ctrl-Shift-T. He was very impressed at least lol.
cokeslutgarbage@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I go to night school at community college and I pointed this shortcut out to the adjunct “professor” (not actually a professor) during a lecture the other day, and she said “oh you youngins with your computer tricks”. But she’s a year younger than me :') I’m just a nerd. And it’s not even a very advanced shortcut! Like idk how to use Excell and idk what “inspect element” means, I just get stresses abt losing my tabs.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
In the lower levels of purgatory, maybe. As you make your way up the mountain, you progress to navigating the systems yourself, but everything is rearranged and the locations of each menu and item change at random intervals. Also, the dimensions are all wonky, your task bars take up half the screen and can’t be resized or minimized, and every button takes several seconds to respond after being clicked. Oh, and when placing objects in a field they auto-lock to grid, but it’s always in the wrong spot. And every website is dynamic.
compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Listening to my boss and older co-workers who all get paid way more than me struggle to sign a PDF and blame everything on Firefox was a radicalizing moment for me
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
As part of my career in software design, I used to run A/B testing and usability tests. This meant sitting with users and watching them use the software. Since IUE (initial user experience) was very important, this often included inexperienced users.
The data was absolutely worth it, and definitely improved my designs, but it took a lot of patience to watch people struggle and fail without intervening or saying anything that would affect the results. It was rewarding, but sometimes excruciating.
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
This meant sitting with users and watching them use the software.
How did you manage not to strangle anyone, nor jump out of the window?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’d probably have to put me behind glass or just make me watch a tape like it’s an old handegg practice session.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Yeah, sometimes it really hurt.
Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
maybe a high enough salary
chunes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Did you ever get any power users who raged at the lack of command line switches or something like that?
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Nothing that techy. I did include power users in tests, but their requests were usually for specific hotkeys or to have their favourite (and lesser used by most users) feature front and centre.
It can be difficult to balance a UI for inexperienced and powerful users, but watching them interact with prototypes and the actual software does help.
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Care to share some tips? I feel I’m getting there, trying to navigate old ERP interfaces, new web interfaces, and AI interfaces, and a mix of boomers, millennials, Gen Z as user base.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I think two major things are understanding platform standards and that what users say they want is often not what they need or what will work best for them.
Innovation is fine, but IUE and usability are often better served by following common platform standards (for general apps on the OS, not necessarily trying to match existing and often shitty enterprise software).
Also, it’s important to look for root causes when people ask for a specific feature. Many users focus on specific UI elements when they’re having issues, and in a complex system, it’s easy to wind up with bloat by solving the wrong problem. This is often how enterprise software becomes so unwieldy, with options and elements seemingly vomited all over the UI. What users think they want and what they need can be very different things.
Sorry if this is too general or basic. It’s hard to design a system that works for beginners and experts, and A/B testing a mix of users early with lofi prototypes helps a lot. For existing software, just watching users interact with it is massively helpful.
Is this what you meant? Happy to be more specific if I missed the mark.
dragonlobster@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I remember vividly watching someone type in the address bar of their browser “google”, and hit enter. It took them to the google results page from which they pressed on the first result, google.com, and only then did they proceed to type in their search term.
Katana314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Someone out there has written a browser plugin where, if you search for Google, it just gives back a page that says “No. Just type in the search query in that bar up top.”
vrek@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Was it an older person? I remember when a big selling point of chrome was you could search Google from the address bar rather than going to Google.com. On a related note, have you seen my walker?
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Technically, less typing! Well fix your default search is what I tell em and I charge 37500 dollars! That’s a lie but I wouldn’t lie to the internet
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
“I lied. But actually I would never lie. That’s the fake news media that says I lie. I knew they would because they’re terrible people.”
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Oh man, I used to work as essentially help desk for old people where they were subscribers to unlimited remote support and we would screen share. I once watched someone, whose browser homepage was hijacked but Yahoo, type Google into Yahoo, click the first result (to Google), then they typed Gmail into the Google search, clicked the link, and finally got to Gmail to login.
Still not as bad as the lady who insisted on hacking Farmville using scripts and Firefox extensions that would have to call us every few weeks to fix everything due to an update. We essentially had to update Firefox and extensions and scripts and reload it all very often. She got passed around a lot.
Then there was the guy who we helped low key pirate media, he was fun. Super nice guy.
Boppel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
99 tabs open. pressing keys with a single finger and 3 second search time for every letter. copy with right mouse click
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
99 tabs open.
Rookie numbers.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Shit, some people are just hated by computers.
I remember my friend was having an issue and I am walking him through how to fix it. I tell him exactly what to do, watch him do it exactly, and it kept failing.
I take over, do the exact same thing I just had him do 3 times which didn’t work, but when I did it it worked. We were both confused as fuck. He appears to be one of those people that technology never seems to work around.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This became a running joke with an old boss. He told me when I started that he was a human EMP for electronics. He wasn’t lying. Just the most baffling problems constantly. Then he’d joke that I needed to touch it and sure enough.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
We have a friend who’s banned from touching the music at partys because he will find a way to accidentally delete the playlist, no matter what we do to make it idiot proof.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think the password is a timing thing. When I type in the same password that failed but slower, it works. I suspect I’m probably brushing another key when fast typing.
Zink@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I have the fun privilege at work these days of being the guy who sometimes makes things work just by walking in the room.
It feels like a tale as old as time. I’m one of the few software engineers working on the embedded code in our new product, and occasionally a technician or V&V tester or different discipline engineer will ask me to look at something acting funny. And I fully believe them, not just because they have no reason to lie but because “acting funny” is exactly the lifestyle our system is living!
Sometimes I get to lean on my experience with the code, then glare at something on the screen and say I don’t trust it, and that leads us to the fix. But about half the time, just sensing that somebody called daddy into the room makes it stand up straight and stop fucking around, lol.
Mesophar@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
They need to offer more prayers to the Machine Spirit
myotheraccount@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ah, yes. Long time ago I had a friend for whom USB sticks would only mount read-only. I’d take out the stick, put it back in, and it would mount writable.
TotallyWorthLife@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
When they start using shortcuts I didn’t know existed lmao
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As a teacher, I love control-shift-tab.
“No Mr, I wasn’t playing Geometry Dash!”
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Only amatures don’t use a private browsing window.
AlsaValderaan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
On Windows, Alt+Esc puts the focused window at the very back of the window stack
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
On windows, ctrl+shift+esc brings up the task manager and not the menu most people click the task manager in.
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Worth noting that using ctrl+shift+esc will not send a cpu interrupt, so it won’t help if stuff is locked up.
lime@feddit.nu 3 weeks ago
win+x on windows 8 forward brings up a system shortcut menu
TotallyWorthLife@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That I oddly knew about, but others here might not :b
WrathEnchanter@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
Strg + Win + Alt + Shift + L in Windows opens Linkedin.
melfie@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
And this is why Copilot failed. It’s bad enough watching a human do dumb shit on a computer, but having to watch a dipshit AI control your computer just takes it to a whole new level.
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Watching someone use a laptop with a trackpad only when there’s a mouse right there is my hell.
lost_faith@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
bats mouse away in a power move
I miss the red nipple, BRING BACK THE NIPPLE!!!
sunnytimes@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
My work HP laptop has a mini thumbstick where the nipple goes . i love using it . i miss the nipple tho!!
LeapSecond@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Watching someone constantly take their hand off the keyboard to use the mouse when there’s a trackpad right there is my hell.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
that’s why you install some niche Linux distro with you own I3WM rice. no one will be able to touch your computer
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If only you can add tmux too
four@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
My keybinds are made for my own mind and my mind alone.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Me while I’m setting my keybindings: “This is genius! Absolutely pure genius! What an elegant solution. This will be the new industry standard. This is history in the making.”
One week later: “What did I set it to again?”
drath@lemmy.drath.ru 3 weeks ago
And some custom hardware as well. It’s so jarring using other peoples computers that don’t have mouse button #14
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
AntiX with IceWM 🤣
NannerBanner@literature.cafe 3 weeks ago
It’s not just doing it differently, it’s doing it wrongly!!!
If I’m watching someone do something differently than I do, it’s often fun to ask them why. You might pick up a new technique, or see how you’ve been doing something that’s holding you back.
…but when I’m watching someone else use a computer, it just drives home how they don’t know what they’re doing, but just following basic steps that they (probably) learned one time from some other fool that probably learned from some community computer class where typing was considered an advanced topic. It’s not seeing someone cut against the grain of the wood rather than with it, but rather watching them use a router to cut a 2x4 in half.
I can forgive someone for not knowing that control+c/v doesn’t work in a terminal (the first few times) (or doesn’t work like they expected, more accurately) or why, but I can’t grasp how we can be 20 years past common commands like alt+tab, clipboards and their uses, or basic understanding of the difference between an operating system, a system program, and a hierarchical file system.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
common commands like alt+tab, clipboards and their uses, or basic understanding of the difference between an operating system, a system program, and a hierarchical file system… and people still struggle to use the mouse.
Not to larp on the younger generations, but interacting with computers through touch screens is likely a major culprit here. Why would you know how to navigate file structures, or even open a terminal, when they were given an iPad when they were 5 years old?
NannerBanner@literature.cafe 3 weeks ago
The way programs are presented on a touch screen, and the actions they are taking inside of an application also being very fundamentally different in a gui sense, is surely to blame. I’m not upset about someone’s lack of understanding in that, really, in the sense of a generation alpha, but millenials, who had computer classes in just about every school in america thanks to apple and microsoft competing to get them hooked, give me major grumbles.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
control+c/v doesn’t work in a terminal
cackles maniacally in macOS
NannerBanner@literature.cafe 3 weeks ago
Yes, yes, now go donate some more money to your turtlenecks so they can pass it along to trump.
Mechanite@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Works on windows too. That was a bit of a learning curve for me switching to Linux
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Im the elder millennial who helps explain shit to both my older and younger coworkers about our computers (as well as printers and copiers and shredser). Its maddening how some of them use the computer.
EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I know the struggle. I work with people in their 20s and people in their 60s, with various language barriers between us. The IT department should pay me because I save them 5 calls a day. Why can’t they ever see what I’m telling them to click? And why do they just click on anything when they don’t see it?
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
O my god the random clicking… why just why?
We have language barriers with a lot of customers (thank god for internet translate), but thankfully me and the coworkers all speak same language.
5parky@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Watching my teen son try to use basic computer interfaces is maddening, but he can navigate a touch screen like it’s his bitch.
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My wife meticulously right-clicks for the context menu, and clicks copy, and then again for paste. My inner ctrl-c, ctrl-v screaming the entire time.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Double clicking links
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
My little sister used to sometimes stand over me while I played computer games. She’d suggest moves and I’d be thankful at first, but at a certain point she was direction all my moves and I’d be like “just play the game on your own device if you want to play it”. She seemed to prefer telling someone else how to play than play her own game
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Opens word, goes to file, then open… Can’t remember where the file is located.
Opens file manager, SUCCESS! Uses search instead of spending 1 week looking for the file down 100 subfolders. Right-clicks file, open location 🤔 (yeah, not just open).
Goes back to word by hovering the pointer all the way to the Word icon on the taskbar (because fuck ALT-Tab), navigate to the folder containing the file as found in the file manager. Scroll 11 pages because the files are organized by type. Clicks file, ONCE, clocks open.
Finally, aaaaand…
BSOD 😭
Rusty@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I feel like other people feel the same way when the see me using vim. I know how to switch between view and edit mode and I know how to quit, but for everything else I need to use help.
bridgeburner@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Me using nano while my pro colleagues are using vim
dis_da_mor@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
as my family’s tech support, i fully concur
PlanchettePhantom@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Me with the fact that I like Linux Mint and ZorinOS, but I don’t understand how to make a single command in the terminal. Hypothetically, I know how to learn, but I’m too lazy to do it yet.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Does every commenter in here just pay zero attention to how much ass they suck at new things in the beginning?
bstix@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
It works in reverse too. Someone telling you to do something and then you do that and then they start interrupting because they have no idea of how you do it.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s horrible. In my head, I’m screaming “just do a tab completion” instead of running ls and then copy and paste the file name.
squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 3 weeks ago
Sooo slooow…
symbolstumble@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The best way to handle this, I think, is a healthy dose of patience, and to remember the other person is just that, another person, separate from you. They may not do things exactly the way you do them, and that’s ok.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
yeah that was s rush back in the 90s. kids back then werent exactly pantheons of security
farmgineer@nord.pub 3 weeks ago
I enjoy watching some people play games. I cannot watch them play RPGs or similar with choices nor puzzles. Even if their puzzle solution is right in the end and mine is not, I still just get frustrated by the experience.
Reygle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Challenge? That’s torture worse than waterboarding.
hoch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
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CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Friend told me it was quicker to get screenshots from a game using F12 with steam, and copying it. After I told him he could press Alt+print screen, and directly paste in steam chat.