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Xbox Co-founder Says Microsoft is Quietly Sunsetting the Platform

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Submitted ⁨⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Innerworld@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://gamesbeat.com/what-an-xbox-founder-thinks-of-the-new-xbox-ceo-seamus-blackley-interview/

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I love how corporations work. “Hey, we completely fucked this up. We mishandled it, made decisions our customers hate, and now we’re scrapping it because we might lose money.” “Could we fix it? Sure. But that would mean changing the business model that made us money 20 years ago, and that’s terrifying. There’s a risk we might lose money.” “And sure, the board won’t lose a dime personally. But the stockholders, basically meerkats who scatter at the first loud noise might panic. And we can’t have that. We might lose money.”

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  • JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s insane how Microsoft is handling Xbox:

    • They have their own console and Windows
    • They bought everything they could and now own most of the biggest gaming franchises outside of Nintendo: Activision-Blizzard. Minecraft. Halo. Call of Duty. Warcraft. Starcraft. Diablo. Candy Crush. Elder Scrolls. Fallout. id software. Bethesda.

    They have everything in place and are still getting slapped around by Valve and Sony and are now talking about shutting down everything?

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As a long time IT guy… this is how Microsoft does everything

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    • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They thoroughly shit the bed, it’s an astonishing display of incompetence.

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  • DannyMac@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I guess they’re going to go all-in on AI despite only 3.3% of MS365 subscribers paying for Copilot. Stonks?

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  • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My feeling on Xbox since Xbox One days has been pretty much “this is an awesome platform, you’re sitting on a gold mine Microsoft, what the fuck are you doing?”

    The last bit of brilliance they did utilise properly was GamePass, and of course they cocked that up by getting greedy.

    Last few years have been extremely rough. The only lucky thing about this is that instead of full Xbox exclusivity Microsoft was pushing Xbox/Windows cross functionality. …Yeah, I’ve been pivoting to PC, but Steam/GOG instead.

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Enshittifying

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    • Master167@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s been a sad thing to watch. I was the biggest Xbox fan in my circles in the 360 & One days. But by the time Series X came out, I was so disappointed in their games that I still don’t own it. Microsoft bought so many companies that I thought would bring games. Yet, most of them aren’t producing anything.

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      • Zanshi@lemmy.world ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I think MS has been surprised and confused by the success of Xbox ever since the very first one came out. It kinda stuck, and the upper management probably never really had a good idea what to do with it, as it just never really worked with them being oriented on business offerings. Remember Ballmer going wild during Xbox One reveal? Yeah. I think during this gen and previous more and more of the business people came into Xbox, and thus the meandering of the brand. They have no clue what gamers want, they’re penny pinchers and pencil pushers.

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  • aviationeast@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Microsoft is quietly sunsetting everything they cant make money on with AI.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So, everything?

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      • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It feels that way. Every ongoing product MS has feels decrepit and ready to collapse.

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      • BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They’re still scamming the shit out of businesses with their corporate software. Oh and they have Azure which I’m guessing makes money.

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    • Xorg_Broke_Again@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m so happy that in the recent years Linux made leaps and bounds in terms of usability so now we have an alternative that actually works well, especially since Microsoft just stopped caring about desktop Windows users.

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    • mephiska@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They can’t even make money with their AI, they only survive off the windows OEM licenses, Office 365 subs that businesses are locked into and their backend server and sql stuff. That’s enough to make them a walking dead for a long time.

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    • lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So, also AI?

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  • justsomeguy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is for the best. As someone who is forced to work with a lot of Microsoft infrastructure let me tell you things have never been this broken before. They keep doubling down on AI and it simply doesn’t work.

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    • anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I feel you brother. It’s bad. They are pushing AI features at the speed of light but forgetting that other things need attention too. Log a support ticket and it spews out AI shit that I have already tried or doesn’t help.

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      • justsomeguy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My favorite last week was 2 dead support numbers and a third that let to AI which happily told me it has a solution that will fix the problem. The link it sent brought me to the bing search page.

        I was so happy to finally talk to indian support a day later.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      didn’t the new exec come from their AI division?

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      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is this how they put her out to pasture? “Your AI division has been such shit that we’ll put you in charge of a division we plan to close…”

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    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are already a bunch of documented but umimplemented functions in a few Xbox related API, like GameInput.

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  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The console wars have ended. The PC is victorious.

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    • absquatulate@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Some victory. PC sales were plummeting in favour of mobile and now component prices. Console space is now done with any semblance of competition - Sony is now a monopoly and will start behaving as such. And xbox’s portfolio of many many IPs will go straight to the bin.

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      • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ah fuck I forgot about mobile and I hate to consider it.

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      • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No, many of them will go to PCs or Sony over giving up

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    • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You mean Tencent mobile games

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      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Microsoft owns King. The candy crush franchise creator.

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      • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No

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    • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, the new player in the game, AI killed everything.

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      • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My PC will still boot when the people turn on the data centers in the next 6 months. Can AI say the same?

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  • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    After letting go of Tango disregarding their massive success, that part is pretty obvious.

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  • njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ain’t that quiet.

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  • myrrh@ttrpg.network ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Cortana, play a game for me.”
    “Cortana, am I having fun?”

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    xbone was the beginning of the end. when the enshittification kicked in before we had a word for it.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Enshitification has been a thing since the 1940s. I remember in the 80s my grandma saying she used to get pretzels from the corner store. Big soft gooey chewey pretzels.

      Now, in the 80s, I could only get a factory made crunchy pretzel rod.

      And today? Unless you’re buying a whole bag, you can’t get pretzels at all.

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      • QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Gone are the mom and pop bakeries too. :(

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      • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you are ever on a road trip and go by a Wawa gas station, stop and get their soft pretzels. buy as many as you can and freeze them for later.

        The german grocery store Lidl also has decent soft pretzels.

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    • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Agreed. I’m still convinced that the always online/DRM shit they pulled with the Xbox One at launch was a catastrophe they never recovered from. Even though they quickly reversed that decision after backlash, I think the damage was done.

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      • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yeah at the very least it signaled their intentions.

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  • logicalmoody@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re sunsetting the platform alright, but nothing about it is quiet

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    • peetabix@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was thinking the same thing. We’ve known about it for years.

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When xbox first hit the scene it was a breath of fresh air. Now its just a stale fart, its time for it to die.

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  • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Its got to be deliberate. They’ve had so many chances and fucked it, and they’ve had so many successes that they’ve just cancelled or discontinued for seemingly no reason.

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Tax write-offs like Batgirl?

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  • mrfriki@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s been for a few years now.

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  • tyrant@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This isn’t new. I heard them say years ago “yeah Sony won the console war but that doesn’t matter” implying cloud gaming

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    • ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That makes sense. Microsoft didn’t enter the console market for gamers or gaming- they entered it to beat sony. The PS2 had a linux distro you could load on it to try to sell it as a computer to circumvent luxury import taxes. If it WAS a computer, it would compete with Microsoft Windows. They were worried that a console could just sell software instead of games and be a competitor, so they threw a ton of money trying to run Sony out of business.

      Microsoft never really wanted to win gaming. The war was against an enemy that wasn’t really a threat. So not killing off a console wasn’t really a “loss”.

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      • Ilixtze@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is this the real reason everybody is trying to sue valve these days?

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s a 360

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  • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What can I say but… at least their hardware was on average a little more functional than Sony’s.

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  • 64bithero@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He’s aged so much he looks like a prospector who has been struggling to find any gold at all …

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  • commander@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Xbox as a 3rd party publisher can succeed. As a console vendor, it’s too late to stop the multiplatform strategy this gen. They’re not Nintendo. At least on the Wii U, Nintendo was still releasing great games and the 3DS sold like 80 million units and Nintendo were also releasing great games there and all those studios would converge on the Switch. They can’t be serious launching a console without a great launch year lineup of exclusives marketed well to convince people that they won’t cut tail and run if a new console doesn’t take off.

    The advice for the new Xbox CEO that I believe in is to rip the bandage off and embrace 3rd party publishing. Timings for a new console seem awful. Fable is supposed to release this year. Forza Horizon Japan this year. Obsidian has already released their two big games last year. Perfect Dark cancelled. Forza Motorsport studio seemingly on life support rather than working on a new entry. New Gears of War should release soon. Elder Scrolls VII I’m not betting on that before the 2030s. Also these unreleased announced games are marketed as multiplatform already. Is it going to be another attempt at a Halo as the launch title after a string of crowd goes mild Halo releases

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