Submitted 15 hours ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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This is just logically wrong.
If birth control was only made for men, and 90% of men were on birth control, you could end up with far more pregnancies than if it’s for women and 90% of women were on it.
The conclusion is exactly the opposite of the argument.
Ok, at the end of the day women are the ones that get pregnant. If you’re living a life of one night stands, who’s more at risk? The woman who’s on nothing, or the guy that’s just like “uhhh ya, I’m on that”.
Kind of a poor way of looking at it imo. Guard your house. Don’t expect the predators to guard it.
The Lemmycels are pretty angry at this one, but on the other hand it’s pretty silly to trust dudes with birth control when you’re the one that gets pregnant.
But we’ve had the technology to make it an option for a long time
Dumb. It’s a lot easier to stop one egg a month, than zillions of sperm multiple times a day. Simple as that.
Not if ya snip snip
Maybe you should just count yourself lucky that you get to control your own fertility. In civilized countries at least.
That’s quickly coming to an end.
It’s not like they haven’t tried. Most men would love to be able to ensure they don’t get snared. 😉
The best option all around that I’ve seen is Vasagel, which is the western development based on RISUG which was a successful Indian trial
The major complication for it has been that no pharma wants to invest in it, likely because if doesn’t have good profit potential.
It is a one-time ‘shot’ of a physical gel that blocks the vas deferens (sperm channel) and is fully reversible simply by being flushed out again.
However, since it is not an ongoing monthly profit ahem, prescription, there is not a lot of money to be made.
No hormones, no pills, fully reversible, simply blocks the sperm exactly like a vasectomy, just very easily reversed. It can all be done in clinic with a syringe (perhaps tho the syringe will be a blocker for some men)
Is the syringe in the dong? Because that’s a beeg no for me. I’m not squeamish around needles but am squeamish about the dong and dings.
she’s right
Yeah, neat math, but biology isn’t a group project where everyone gets an equal share. Female birth control exists because it’s actually doable. One egg a month is easy to manage, shutting down millions of sperm without wrecking everything else? Not so much.
And every time male birth control does make it to trials, guys tap out the second they get a mood swing or a cramp. Meanwhile, women have been tanking those side effects for decades just to keep the rest of us from multiplying like rabbits.
So no, science didn’t “target the wrong gender.” It just went with the one that could handle it.
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And every time male birth control does make it to trials, guys tap out the second they get a mood swing or a cramp.
This is false, it’s based on a single study and twists facts. Some participants dropped out because of side effects, but those not dropping out said they would actually continue using the pill if it were available. The study was stopped because one participant tried to kill himself.
No it wasn’t just one study. The 2016 WHO trial is just the one that got the headlines because it made for a catchy story. There were several other male birth control studies going back to the 80s and 90s where men dropped out because they didn’t want to deal with the side effects. Things like acne mood swings and injection pain.
In the WHO study around twenty out of three hundred twenty men quit over side effects. Earlier trials saw the same thing a few percent tapping out for the same reasons.
So no it wasn’t some isolated case. It’s been a recurring theme across decades of research. The numbers are small but it’s there. Pretending otherwise just tells me you stopped reading after the first article title.
Without wrecking everything else
Women have been taking the sid effects
Then the just and equitable thing to do would be to shift some of that burden to men to make things easier for the women that aren’t able to “tank” the side effects that can include some life-threatening complications.
I would also like to point out that the leading cause of death of pregnant people in America is intimate partner homicide, so the dangers of pregnancy can also be directly caused by the male partners. Y’all need to toughen the fuck up and get your shit together to do your damn part of preventing unwanted pregnancy and calling out the bad behavior of your peers that eventually escalates to things like rape or intimate partner homicide.
She has no points
A) women are voluntarily driving 100% of demand for this drug B) if we could make it for guys, we would. C) if we did unplanned pregnancies would dry up and women’s power/control of birth would change vastly for the first time in our biological history.
This screen shot is meaningless kindergarten thinking.
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YCT-529 just passed human safety trials last July. Its coming … so men won’t be.
I not sure I can impregnate 9 women in a day but I’m willing to participate in a scientific study to find out if anyone is doing that.
For nine months.
starts doing warmup stretches
If you insist.
The only people thinking a man can impregnate 9 women in a day are other men, coz they lie to each other
Those 9 men could prevent women getting pregnant by cumming in me instead.
Honey your desperation is showing.
based
me: laughs in vasectomy
Fr, no worries anymore!
Weird how it seems like it’s all for women and safe sex but then criticizes a tool women have to checks notes take control of their sex lives and make decisions about getting pregnant.
Non-surgical birth control options for women tend to come with a lot of side effects and a number of risks that don’t always outweigh the benefit. Hormonal birth control can cause tons of problems for the women taking them and some of them are associated with life-threatening side effects like increased risk of clotting leading to DVTs, PEs, and strokes.
Feminist snark is much less effective when it’s based an utter ignorance of the science it’s poking fun at.
Generic image of attractive woman with text meme.
I’m sure this is well thought through and factual.
classic engineering mistake, trying to fix the problem where it occurs (baby popps out), instead of where it originates (baby gets put in). Can’t be too mad at them for that. Everyone makes that mistake when they start out.
Back when I was younger and on the road all the time I would have loved to have a pill that guaranteed I didn’t have a critical hit. But even at my peak nine times a day would have had me pushing rope.
You still need it.
When you see a driver running a red light, you still brake even if your light is green.
9 times per day… So ok. You know how women love to give men shit for having a poor understanding is basic female biology? This is that.
If there was a reversible, drug-based intervention for males that prevented impregnation that shit would be given away for free on every street corner and it’s universal availability guaranteed by Constitutional Amendment lol
And Women wouldn’t trust a man has taken it because, ultimately, they’re the ones who become pregnant not men.
While companies have looked into male drug-based contraceptives, ultimately even if it were 100% effective, it would never beat female drug-based contraceptives. It’d have a market sure - but it wouldn’t stop women taking birth-control because it’d be the only way from them to be sure.
They’ve tried, but they can’t get FDA approval because the men in the clinical trials aren’t able to tolerate the side effects that pale in comparison to common side effects of hormonal birth control for women.
They stopped that one trial because a participant tried to kill himself and that’s basically the only real trial that was ever done with a larger number of participants.
9!? You think I can cum 9 times a day!? And apparently hit the egg every fucking time too? I don’t mean to question the conclusion because I think birth control should be both parties’ responsibility, but I think your premise reveals a distinct lack of grasp on biological reality. Why stop at 9? Why not 900? Really drive your point home! My dick is going to be useless after number 2 or 3 anyway.
“hit the egg” 🤣😂😭
If i cum today and i want to cum tomorrow i will already feel a weaker sensation, probably if i cum 2/3 time in a day that good sensation will be as good as laughing at a joke that isn’t even that funny
Cocaine is your friend here, good sir.
I think she liked the number nine because 9 months pregnancy so she used the number 9 for everything in her hypothetical scenario
Leys gooooooo 9000 !!
Cumming 9 times a day??
So hear me out; have the lad cum onto a table, use a postcard or something to divide the subject matter into 9 equal parts, then have the ladies come in and snort it up their pussy.
I’m not a professional in this field fyi.
Nowhere does it say you have to limit yourself to that
With 9 different partners each time, dude dick gonna fall off statistically speaking.
Yeah, any more than 7 is tiring.
Don’t forget to hydrate
If you have a plan and put in the effort it can easily be done
This guy definitely owns a milking table. It’s probably homemade.
I got snipped so my wife didn’t have to do the hormonal bullshit. Her doctor is putting her back in it because women’s bodies literally do not want them to be happy.
I’m almost 54 and menopause has not yet been achieved, though my system is constantly teasing/taunting me with it.
I couldn’t agree more.
Genghis Khan has entered the chat
Centuries of discounting female medical concerns and avoiding anything that would even inconvenience men are why we’re here.
All I’m seeing is I can seed my own country if I try hard enough.
If 2,434 ladies want to test this out then hmu
I’ma get a vasectomy as soon as I can drive
Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 minutes ago
It’s only about subjugation and cruelty. That’s why we live in a rape culture run by pedofiles and rapists. It’s by design