9 times per day… So ok. You know how women love to give men shit for having a poor understanding is basic female biology? This is that.
She is making a GREAT point
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BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 3 months ago
She has no points
A) women are voluntarily driving 100% of demand for this drug B) if we could make it for guys, we would. C) if we did unplanned pregnancies would dry up and women’s power/control of birth would change vastly for the first time in our biological history.
This screen shot is meaningless kindergarten thinking.
Ringtail@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
✂️✂️✂️
Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
YCT-529 just passed human safety trials last July. Its coming … so men won’t be.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 3 months ago
Been hearing that for 30 years. That and the rapture is tomorrow. And aliens coming the day after that.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 months ago
That’s not birth control that’s just like having a vasectomy. The big power of birth control is that it works after the fact so if you wake up in the morning and you realise you’ve made a mistake, you have options.
ikidd@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maybe you should just count yourself lucky that you get to control your own fertility. In civilized countries at least.
Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
That’s quickly coming to an end.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 months ago
I think it’s the civilised that’s coming to an end.
einlander@lemmy.world 3 months ago
All I’m seeing is I can seed my own country if I try hard enough.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 months ago
Ok Musk.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 months ago
Pff that lazy fuck pays someone else to do the work for him like for everything else
Iambus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lol this is so dumb
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Centuries of discounting female medical concerns and avoiding anything that would even inconvenience men are why we’re here.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nice try mr. pervert, you were trying to make me think about a woman nine months pregnant getting plowed nine times in a row.
NoFun4You@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Up vote
Jarix@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You wrote that comment so they accomplished that started goal of making you think about it
iconic_admin@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m pretty sure the birth control pill is for women because that was easy to do. A pill for men has been tried several times and they still don’t exist yet.
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 3 months ago
correction: easy to do *if you don’t care about side-effects or undermine the population taking said pill when they tall about the huge impact on their life the reason the pill for men "has been tried several times and still doesn’t exist isn’t because it’s that much harder, but because it’s harder to do with minimal side-effects the impact the pill had on generations of women is massive and completely underestimated today still
Casino2306@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
They just don’t care about the side effects for their “property”.
BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Yeah, and me taking a man pill doesn’t stop the lady getting pregnant if some other guys didn’t bother to take it. It does make sense for the woman to protect herself from douchebags
howrar@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Let’s say you save exactly one pill and it works on anyone. Also assume 100% pregnancy rate, so if you are paired with someone and neither have the pill, then it’s an automatic pregnancy. Our goal is to minimize number of pregnancies.
- “Max promiscuity”: Say we have a complete bipartite matching. if it’s given to a male, then no pregnancies have been prevented since every other male can impregnate every female. If it’s given to a female, then it reduces the number of pregnancies by 1 since none of the males can impregnate her.
- “Traditional”: Say we have a bijective matching (i.e. each male is paired with exactly one female, and vice versa). Then the pill can be given to anyone and it will always reduce the number of pregnancies by 1.
- “The Harem”: Say we have a matching where males have more than one pairing but females have at most one pairing each. In this case, giving the pill to the male with the largest number of pairings will reduce pregnancies by however many pairings they have.
- “Reverse Harem”: Same scenario as above but flip male and female. Giving the pill to any female will have the same effect of reducing pregnancies by 1. Giving it to a male will have no effect.
- “The Cliques”: The population is split into disjoint graphs, but each of these disjoint graphs are complete (bijective) bipartite graphs. In this case, if the pill is given to a male, then it will only have an effect if that male only has a single pairing, thereby reducing pregnancies by exactly 1. Otherwise, there will be no reduction in pregnancies. If given to a female, then it will always reduce pregnancies by exactly 1.
As far as I’m aware, the real world operates most like a mixture of “Traditional” and “Cliques”. At least, in places where birth control is an option. But in the real world, we have more than one pill.
If we have enough for either all males or all females, then the effect is the same regardless of who gets the pill. It will always lead to 100% pregnancy reduction.
Let’s say we have enough pills for all but one male, or all but one female.
- “Max promiscuity”: If the pill is given to the males, then we still have one male that can impregnate everyone, so there will be no reduction in pregnancies. If given to females, then you will end up with exactly one pregnancy.
- “Traditional”: As before, there’s no difference. Any decision will lead to reducing pregnancies to exactly 1.
- “The Harem”: giving to all the males except the one with the smallest number of pairings will reduce pregnancies to however many pairings that one male has (more than 1). If given to females, then it will reduce it to exactly 1.
- “Reverse Harem”: Giving it to the males will reduce pregnancies to exactly 1 since they’re only in 1 pairing. Giving it to females will also reduce it to exactly 1.
- “The Cliques”: if given to the males, then it will only make a difference if there exists a clique with exactly one male. It will reduce pregnancies by the largest number of females in a clique with a single male. If given to females, then it always reduces pregnancies to exactly 1.
So with the goal of minimizing pregnancies, it either makes no difference or is optimal to have the pill on women (unless you’re in a harem). This is highly reductive though. We have many other considerations when deciding who should get access to birth control.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I applaud your dedication to this thought.
howrar@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
I needed to know if there was any validity to the claim. And if I’m doing the work anyway, I might as well share it.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 months ago
Upvote for the dedication in writing this reply
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 months ago
Condoms?
IndridCold@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Those also protect both people from possible other hidden cooties.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
If 2,434 ladies want to test this out then hmu
crapwittyname@feddit.uk 3 months ago
I saw on Google that there are this many in your local area waiting to meet you.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 months ago
All crammed into a clown car
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
I looked into this but the ads are a lie.
There are only 1,789 hot local women that want to meet me.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I have tried my very best with partners, but 9 times a day? Even with the most willing partner I’m not man enough for that!
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 months ago
I tried 4 times in a 24 hour period once with a partner and we were both far too sore to finish the last time. Maybe if we did so more regularly we might have been able to do it but the flesh is weaker than the spirit a lot of times
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Sometimes we need to fly solo, but not sure that would have helped me in the same scenario
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Even as a kid, my record was 5 wanks in a day.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
These are crucial personal data points that we can always recall
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 months ago
MrSulu, you stud! I heard that gay men get more sex, but that’s a bold attempt. Does Brad now about this?!
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
My reality is not achieve the leaderboard of the adolescent imaginations.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The trick is not to cum. Then you can last all day.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Generic image of attractive woman with text meme.
I’m sure this is well thought through and factual.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
There have been attempts, but as far as I know they stopped due to safety issues. But I could be wrong.
init@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Vasalgel/Risug(?) have shown promising results in tests in India iirc, but the last time I checked there was almost no momentum in getting it FDA approved. It is as far as I know, 100% effective and only required administrating once. The materials used to create it are cheaper than the syringe. Why is it not making more headway? Because it eliminates profits (like ongoing prescriptions would provide) for pharmaceuticals.
Slotos@feddit.nl 3 months ago
I’ve been hoping for it to become widely available since first reading about it somewhere south of 2010. But I guess it would need to become easily manufacturable in local pharmacies for procedure to become widespread.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Last time I read about it had some issues, like the material stopped blocking way earlier than anticipated
khepri@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If there was a reversible, drug-based intervention for males that prevented impregnation that shit would be given away for free on every street corner and it’s universal availability guaranteed by Constitutional Amendment lol
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And Women wouldn’t trust a man has taken it because, ultimately, they’re the ones who become pregnant not men.
While companies have looked into male drug-based contraceptives, ultimately even if it were 100% effective, it would never beat female drug-based contraceptives. It’d have a market sure - but it wouldn’t stop women taking birth-control because it’d be the only way from them to be sure.
medgremlin@midwest.social 3 months ago
They’ve tried, but they can’t get FDA approval because the men in the clinical trials aren’t able to tolerate the side effects that pale in comparison to common side effects of hormonal birth control for women.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
They stopped that one trial because a participant tried to kill himself and that’s basically the only real trial that was ever done with a larger number of participants.
AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lemmy is left but also male, according to the salty responses lol
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 months ago
How many ‘man bad’ posts do we need?
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I always end up so dissapointed by comments on lemmy, but you know
men should wear condoms, it’s not that complicated, and they help prevent spreading STI
p.s. get an sti test
mika_mika@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s not true … there are also trans women here.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 months ago
I know a lot of people who take birth control pills to regulate their bodies rather than prevent pregnancy.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Back when I was younger and on the road all the time I would have loved to have a pill that guaranteed I didn’t have a critical hit. But even at my peak nine times a day would have had me pushing rope.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Excuse me, but birth control is not just a pill, it’s the entire process that includes putting on a condom. And it’s expected of guys to use condoms.
Besides that, there are pills and procedures a guy can do as birth control.
Jarix@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sex not gender.
And no she isn’t
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
classic engineering mistake, trying to fix the problem where it occurs (baby popps out), instead of where it originates (baby gets put in). Can’t be too mad at them for that. Everyone makes that mistake when they start out.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 months ago
That’s not how engineering works. That’s like saying that you don’t need gas release valves you just need to never over pressure the line. Now obviously the objective is to never over pressure the line, but it’s good to have contingencies in place in case it happens.
You could equally say that you don’t need to be on birth control if you just always use condom but sometimes they fail.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 months ago
Nah, engineering wise you can’t verify if a man actually has taken a pill and the sad reality is that women get stuck with the child and abortion rights are under attack. It’s like trying to implement authorization without any way to verify that the user is actually authorized. You can’t just go on vibes alone.
livingcoder@programming.dev 3 months ago
Women still need access to birth control in order to remain autonomous, but this is a great point.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
The issue with pills for the man is, that he should still be able to get hard and produce (inactive) sperm, while for the woman it’s relatively simple.
And you forgot condoms, no?
Highlandcow@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Well to be fair they are trying to make male protection pills
niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Brilliant!
Also, I’d like to see this brainiac figure out how to kill many million sperm instead of just one ovum, with a pill. Surely that should be easier, but there’s an anti-woke male patriarchy conspiracy, amirite?
All you need is a white labcoat, goggles, some vials, a pocket calculator and clipboard and BOOM… Science, Bitch! Surely the “EUREKA!” moment should happen within a couple of months, but it is being kept from us! The male patriarchy is yadda yadda whatever… and here’s an extra yadda for good measure!
Disclaimer: I had a vasectomy.
But still, this person is under-educated in the same school system that spits out maga-types on the opposite side of the political spectrum.This is yet another symptom of the severe under-education that Carl Sagan warned us about in The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark. The kind of under-informed, holier-than-thou attitude that lets fascism through the front door, because…
bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRitEThe same fascists, religious batshit zealots and incels who want women OUT of schools, OUT of the workplace, they want them IN the kitchen, illiterate, barefoot and pregnant: “That should keep them under our thumb!”
EXACTLY like it happens now in places like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Condoms?
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 months ago
She’s giving that one man an awful lot of credit assuming he can shoot a bullseye 9 times a day 365 days a year.
someguy3@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s because trying to shut down what millions of sperm production a day is hard. Even one gets through and your product fails.
qaatloz@feddit.nl 3 months ago
Not really…
On the biological level it is trying to stop millions of sperm-cells to sneak in or prevent one egg-cell from being available. In the numbers game it is less risky and more reliable to make the one cell unavailable then to try to prevent the millions from being viable. Even if you shut 99.99% of them down, you still have more risk than having 99.99% chance of preventing the one cell being available.
I’m afraid that however we want the world to be equal for man and women, the biology itself is unfair and needs a lot more time and research if you want to equalize that.
Or use the tie-off snipsnip solution. It is a bit more permanent, but is pretty reliable in preventing.
Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Can we use proper terminology? Vasectomy is pretty much permanent. Low chance of reverting it and its also likely won’t be available for free.
I’ve done it, no regrets and if someone is “done” with having kids? No brainer.
I’ve seen how my wife is affected by even the less intrusive options. They ALL suck. That’s what we should talk about. Female contraception has downsides. Even the copper coil has side effects. Anything with hormones? Forget it, the side effects from those could be permanent.
I went full circle. Honestly, condoms truly are the best protection available. We were young, we didn’t like them, no one does. But beats having to deal with the alternatives.
Furbag@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Just FYI after the 5th one I’m just cumming air at that point, but if there are 2,430 women out there who want to give it a try anyway be my guest.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 months ago
You also get a hydro homie whose sole job is to keep you hydrated and keep giving you zinc suppliments