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She is making a GREAT point

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Mickey7@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nice try mr. pervert, you were trying to make me think about a woman nine months pregnant getting plowed nine times in a row.

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    • Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You wrote that comment so they accomplished that started goal of making you think about it

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    • NoFun4You@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Up vote

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, neat math, but biology isn’t a group project where everyone gets an equal share. Female birth control exists because it’s actually doable. One egg a month is easy to manage, shutting down millions of sperm without wrecking everything else? Not so much.

    And every time male birth control does make it to trials, guys tap out the second they get a mood swing or a cramp. Meanwhile, women have been tanking those side effects for decades just to keep the rest of us from multiplying like rabbits.

    So no, science didn’t “target the wrong gender.” It just went with the one that could handle it.

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And every time male birth control does make it to trials, guys tap out the second they get a mood swing or a cramp.

      This is false, it’s based on a single study and twists facts. Some participants dropped out because of side effects, but those not dropping out said they would actually continue using the pill if it were available. The study was stopped because one participant tried to kill himself.

      npr.org/…/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-m…

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No it wasn’t just one study. The 2016 WHO trial is just the one that got the headlines because it made for a catchy story. There were several other male birth control studies going back to the 80s and 90s where men dropped out because they didn’t want to deal with the side effects. Things like acne mood swings and injection pain.

        In the WHO study around twenty out of three hundred twenty men quit over side effects. Earlier trials saw the same thing a few percent tapping out for the same reasons.

        So no it wasn’t some isolated case. It’s been a recurring theme across decades of research. The numbers are small but it’s there. Pretending otherwise just tells me you stopped reading after the first article title.

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    • GlenRambo@jlai.lu ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Without wrecking everything else

      Women have been taking the sid effects

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    • Ringtail@slrpnk.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ✂️✂️✂️

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    • medgremlin@midwest.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Then the just and equitable thing to do would be to shift some of that burden to men to make things easier for the women that aren’t able to “tank” the side effects that can include some life-threatening complications.

      I would also like to point out that the leading cause of death of pregnant people in America is intimate partner homicide, so the dangers of pregnancy can also be directly caused by the male partners. Y’all need to toughen the fuck up and get your shit together to do your damn part of preventing unwanted pregnancy and calling out the bad behavior of your peers that eventually escalates to things like rape or intimate partner homicide.

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Vasectomy

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Later that night:

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    • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      More like that:
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  • Tabooki@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not like they haven’t tried. Most men would love to be able to ensure they don’t get snared. 😉

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    • Scirocco@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The best option all around that I’ve seen is Vasagel, which is the western development based on RISUG which was a successful Indian trial

      www.planaformen.com/vasalgel

      The major complication for it has been that no pharma wants to invest in it, likely because if doesn’t have good profit potential.

      It is a one-time ‘shot’ of a physical gel that blocks the vas deferens (sperm channel) and is fully reversible simply by being flushed out again.

      However, since it is not an ongoing monthly profit ahem, prescription, there is not a lot of money to be made.

      No hormones, no pills, fully reversible, simply blocks the sperm exactly like a vasectomy, just very easily reversed. It can all be done in clinic with a syringe (perhaps tho the syringe will be a blocker for some men)

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      • theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So once again, it’s capitalism. Surprise surprise.

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      • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is the syringe in the dong? Because that’s a beeg no for me. I’m not squeamish around needles but am squeamish about the dong and dings.

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe you should just count yourself lucky that you get to control your own fertility. In civilized countries at least.

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    • Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s quickly coming to an end.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think it’s the civilised that’s coming to an end.

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  • KenOh@feddit.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    me: laughs in vasectomy

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    • Lightsong@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Best decision I made.

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      • WalterLego@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Best incision I have made.

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    • Ringtail@slrpnk.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fr, no worries anymore!

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  • Nomorereddit@lemmy.today ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    She has no points

    A) women are voluntarily driving 100% of demand for this drug B) if we could make it for guys, we would. C) if we did unplanned pregnancies would dry up and women’s power/control of birth would change vastly for the first time in our biological history.

    This screen shot is meaningless kindergarten thinking.

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    • Ringtail@slrpnk.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ✂️✂️✂️

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    • Wilco@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      YCT-529 just passed human safety trials last July. Its coming … so men won’t be.

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      • Nomorereddit@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Been hearing that for 30 years. That and the rapture is tomorrow. And aliens coming the day after that.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s not birth control that’s just like having a vasectomy. The big power of birth control is that it works after the fact so if you wake up in the morning and you realise you’ve made a mistake, you have options.

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  • Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Feminist snark is much less effective when it’s based an utter ignorance of the science it’s poking fun at.

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  • teslasaur@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Reminds me of the joke: If you have a a key that can open thousands of locks, then that is what you’d call a master key.

    However if you have a lock that can be opened by a thousand keys…

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  • TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Cumming 9 times a day??

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    • Laser@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Nowhere does it say you have to limit yourself to that

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    • tidderuuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      With 9 different partners each time, dude dick gonna fall off statistically speaking.

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    • KryptoSynth@ani.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So hear me out; have the lad cum onto a table, use a postcard or something to divide the subject matter into 9 equal parts, then have the ladies come in and snort it up their pussy.

      I’m not a professional in this field fyi.

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    • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, any more than 7 is tiring.

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    • RattlerSix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Don’t forget to hydrate

      youtu.be/_ARGBrsM_Js

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    • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If you have a plan and put in the effort it can easily be done

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      • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        This guy definitely owns a milking table. It’s probably homemade.

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  • bountygiver@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You still need it.

    When you see a driver running a red light, you still brake even if your light is green.

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    9!? You think I can cum 9 times a day!? And apparently hit the egg every fucking time too? I don’t mean to question the conclusion because I think birth control should be both parties’ responsibility, but I think your premise reveals a distinct lack of grasp on biological reality. Why stop at 9? Why not 900? Really drive your point home! My dick is going to be useless after number 2 or 3 anyway.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “hit the egg” 🤣😂😭

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    • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If i cum today and i want to cum tomorrow i will already feel a weaker sensation, probably if i cum 2/3 time in a day that good sensation will be as good as laughing at a joke that isn’t even that funny

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      • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Cocaine is your friend here, good sir.

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    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think she liked the number nine because 9 months pregnancy so she used the number 9 for everything in her hypothetical scenario

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    • Uri@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Leys gooooooo 9000 !!

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  • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I got snipped so my wife didn’t have to do the hormonal bullshit. Her doctor is putting her back in it because women’s bodies literally do not want them to be happy.

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    • Duranie@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m almost 54 and menopause has not yet been achieved, though my system is constantly teasing/taunting me with it.

      I couldn’t agree more.

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  • BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    9 times per day… So ok. You know how women love to give men shit for having a poor understanding is basic female biology? This is that.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Generic image of attractive woman with text meme.

    I’m sure this is well thought through and factual.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Technically, men’s sperm takes some time between three days to two weeks as it travels up from the testees to the seminal vesicles, and before that it takes something like 72 days for sperm to be made in the testees via spermatogenesis (although this process is constant regardless of number of ejaculations), meaning that while technically a man could impregnate 9 women a day, realistically a man couldn’t because after the first few their viable sperm count would drastically falter.

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  • Trex202@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Genghis Khan has entered the chat

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  • MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Back when I was younger and on the road all the time I would have loved to have a pill that guaranteed I didn’t have a critical hit. But even at my peak nine times a day would have had me pushing rope.

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  • khepri@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If there was a reversible, drug-based intervention for males that prevented impregnation that shit would be given away for free on every street corner and it’s universal availability guaranteed by Constitutional Amendment lol

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    • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And Women wouldn’t trust a man has taken it because, ultimately, they’re the ones who become pregnant not men.

      While companies have looked into male drug-based contraceptives, ultimately even if it were 100% effective, it would never beat female drug-based contraceptives. It’d have a market sure - but it wouldn’t stop women taking birth-control because it’d be the only way from them to be sure.

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    • medgremlin@midwest.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’ve tried, but they can’t get FDA approval because the men in the clinical trials aren’t able to tolerate the side effects that pale in comparison to common side effects of hormonal birth control for women.

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      • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They stopped that one trial because a participant tried to kill himself and that’s basically the only real trial that was ever done with a larger number of participants.

        npr.org/…/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-m…

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  • einlander@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    All I’m seeing is I can seed my own country if I try hard enough.

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    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ok Musk.

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Pff that lazy fuck pays someone else to do the work for him like for everything else

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  • sonofearth@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just use condoms and don’t hookup with random people. No pills needed for any gender. They are harmful.

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  • mavu@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    classic engineering mistake, trying to fix the problem where it occurs (baby popps out), instead of where it originates (baby gets put in). Can’t be too mad at them for that. Everyone makes that mistake when they start out.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not how engineering works. That’s like saying that you don’t need gas release valves you just need to never over pressure the line. Now obviously the objective is to never over pressure the line, but it’s good to have contingencies in place in case it happens.

      You could equally say that you don’t need to be on birth control if you just always use condom but sometimes they fail.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nah, engineering wise you can’t verify if a man actually has taken a pill and the sad reality is that women get stuck with the child and abortion rights are under attack. It’s like trying to implement authorization without any way to verify that the user is actually authorized. You can’t just go on vibes alone.

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If 2,434 ladies want to test this out then hmu

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    • crapwittyname@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I saw on Google that there are this many in your local area waiting to meet you.

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      • Tangent5280@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        All crammed into a clown car

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  • zqwzzle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Centuries of discounting female medical concerns and avoiding anything that would even inconvenience men are why we’re here.

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  • matmarspace@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t get it 🤔

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ok, at the end of the day women are the ones that get pregnant. If you’re living a life of one night stands, who’s more at risk? The woman who’s on nothing, or the guy that’s just like “uhhh ya, I’m on that”.

    Kind of a poor way of looking at it imo. Guard your house. Don’t expect the predators to guard it.

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s in the name. Birth control

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  • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s only about subjugation and cruelty. That’s why we live in a rape culture run by pedofiles and rapists. It’s by design

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    • Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Medical science is not that black and white.

      Think about birth control in terms of preventing death and disfigurement. Men don’t die from pregnancy, women do.

      When women take birth control, it has the upside of not dying in pregnancy, having horrific pain in the process, or permanent changes to their body. Birth control has a lot of side effects, but at the end of the day, the maternal mortality rate of women who take birth control is far lower.

      The reason why medical trials for male birth has been put on hold before, is because when weighing the side effects vs benefits of male birth control, men did not have to weight against death and suffering through pregnancy. Thus, the justification for male birth control requires a much higher bar.

      While discrimination against women is prevalent in medicine, this isn’t as simple as an instance of dismissing male birth control because men didn’t like it. The process through which new modern medicines are vetted requires comparing the positive and negative outcomes of a medication, and that doesn’t necessarily take gender dynamics into account.

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      • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They should have both been available a long time ago pbs.org/…/gender-bias-kill-male-birth-control

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have built-in birth control.

    Also, I’d jump on a pill that allows safe (as in, no kid) sex with more fun, but it seems that’s hard to do.

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  • hateisreality@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    she’s right

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