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She is making a GREAT point

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Mickey7@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • mavu@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    classic engineering mistake, trying to fix the problem where it occurs (baby popps out), instead of where it originates (baby gets put in). Can’t be too mad at them for that. Everyone makes that mistake when they start out.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s not how engineering works. That’s like saying that you don’t need gas release valves you just need to never over pressure the line. Now obviously the objective is to never over pressure the line, but it’s good to have contingencies in place in case it happens.

      You could equally say that you don’t need to be on birth control if you just always use condom but sometimes they fail.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nah, engineering wise you can’t verify if a man actually has taken a pill and the sad reality is that women get stuck with the child and abortion rights are under attack. It’s like trying to implement authorization without any way to verify that the user is actually authorized. You can’t just go on vibes alone.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Technically, men’s sperm takes some time between three days to two weeks as it travels up from the testees to the seminal vesicles, and before that it takes something like 72 days for sperm to be made in the testees via spermatogenesis (although this process is constant regardless of number of ejaculations), meaning that while technically a man could impregnate 9 women a day, realistically a man couldn’t because after the first few their viable sperm count would drastically falter.

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  • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    how about we just learn to pull out.

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    • discosnails@lemmy.wtf ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Man I keep seeing you around with the worst takes. Even for a troll it’s just sad.

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      • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        im not trolling though. just pull out.

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  • teslasaur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Reminds me of the joke: If you have a a key that can open thousands of locks, then that is what you’d call a master key.

    However if you have a lock that can be opened by a thousand keys…

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  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There have been attempts, but as far as I know they stopped due to safety issues. But I could be wrong.

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    • init@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Vasalgel/Risug(?) have shown promising results in tests in India iirc, but the last time I checked there was almost no momentum in getting it FDA approved. It is as far as I know, 100% effective and only required administrating once. The materials used to create it are cheaper than the syringe. Why is it not making more headway? Because it eliminates profits (like ongoing prescriptions would provide) for pharmaceuticals.

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      • Slotos@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’ve been hoping for it to become widely available since first reading about it somewhere south of 2010. But I guess it would need to become easily manufacturable in local pharmacies for procedure to become widespread.

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Last time I read about it had some issues, like the material stopped blocking way earlier than anticipated

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  • sonofearth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Just use condoms and don’t hookup with random people. No pills needed for any gender. They are harmful.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ok, at the end of the day women are the ones that get pregnant. If you’re living a life of one night stands, who’s more at risk? The woman who’s on nothing, or the guy that’s just like “uhhh ya, I’m on that”.

    Kind of a poor way of looking at it imo. Guard your house. Don’t expect the predators to guard it.

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  • niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Brilliant!

    Also, I’d like to see this brainiac figure out how to kill many million sperm instead of just one ovum, with a pill. Surely that should be easier, but there’s an anti-woke male patriarchy conspiracy, amirite?

    All you need is a white labcoat, goggles, some vials, a pocket calculator and clipboard and BOOM… Science, Bitch! Surely the “EUREKA!” moment should happen within a couple of months, but it is being kept from us! The male patriarchy is yadda yadda whatever… and here’s an extra yadda for good measure!

    Disclaimer: I had a vasectomy.
    But still, this person is under-educated in the same school system that spits out maga-types on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

    This is yet another symptom of the severe under-education that Carl Sagan warned us about in The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark. The kind of under-informed, holier-than-thou attitude that lets fascism through the front door, because…
    bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRitE

    The same fascists, religious batshit zealots and incels who want women OUT of schools, OUT of the workplace, they want them IN the kitchen, illiterate, barefoot and pregnant: “That should keep them under our thumb!”
    EXACTLY like it happens now in places like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.

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  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Condoms?

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  • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s only about subjugation and cruelty. That’s why we live in a rape culture run by pedofiles and rapists. It’s by design

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    • Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Medical science is not that black and white.

      Think about birth control in terms of preventing death and disfigurement. Men don’t die from pregnancy, women do.

      When women take birth control, it has the upside of not dying in pregnancy, having horrific pain in the process, or permanent changes to their body. Birth control has a lot of side effects, but at the end of the day, the maternal mortality rate of women who take birth control is far lower.

      The reason why medical trials for male birth has been put on hold before, is because when weighing the side effects vs benefits of male birth control, men did not have to weight against death and suffering through pregnancy. Thus, the justification for male birth control requires a much higher bar.

      While discrimination against women is prevalent in medicine, this isn’t as simple as an instance of dismissing male birth control because men didn’t like it. The process through which new modern medicines are vetted requires comparing the positive and negative outcomes of a medication, and that doesn’t necessarily take gender dynamics into account.

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      • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They should have both been available a long time ago pbs.org/…/gender-bias-kill-male-birth-control

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    • AquaTofana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I, as a pro-birth control/pro-choice lady, believe lady-oriented birth control has nothing to do with that (perhaps naiively).

      Pregnancy, even the healthiest, safest ones, are hard on our bodies. That means that anything that prevents them is theoretically better than if we’re constantly/repeatedly pregnant. Even if its harmful for mental health or long term effects on organs. Pregnancy fucks us up outright both mentally and physically. Like day one.

      Obviously I’m simplyifying a bit, but you understand the gist of my logic.

      Men dont have HAVE to deal with pregnancy, period, so anything that introduces harm, even minutely, is automatically a worse quality-of-life option for them.

      Am I pro-male birth control? Hell yeah I am. I just recognize that they’re giving up more than we would be to accept the same risks, given that they dont have to experience pregnancy to begin with, and I dont trust/expect them to do that.

      Therefore, it makes logical sense to me that we’re the ones targeted.

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  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    She’s giving that one man an awful lot of credit assuming he can shoot a bullseye 9 times a day 365 days a year.

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  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not rocket science, it’s much easier to prevent one egg from being fertilized than to stop a hoard sperm from fertilizing…

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  • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ma get a vasectomy as soon as I can drive

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  • hateisreality@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    she’s right

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    • curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      False

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  • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s because trying to shut down what millions of sperm production a day is hard. Even one gets through and your product fails.

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  • dan69@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I was told that female trees are rare in American lands, eg suburbs. Found that out!!

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  • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    1: men do have birth control. 2: this is so Ironic because women hold the majority of if not ALL the control in terms of who they have sex with. Let alone who they allow to climax inside of them without a condom. In other words they chose the outcome. They allowed it. Not including rape and other SA scenarios.

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    • kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      go touch grass and stop victim blaming

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There was a post the other day pronouncing female like tamale and it made me take a while to read this post and made it a little more fun, too

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  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve been saying it for years. We should stop any and all funding for erectile dysfunction. Best birth control in the world is for men to stop being able get erections.

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What is wrong with you?

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  • drhodl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I will have to test this theory, before I believe it…

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  • dumples@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ejaculate Responsibly

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  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I have had a vasectomy, but I don’t have sex anymore so is that a double negative and I’m about to birth millions of new lives?

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  • MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Where are those men?! rhe ones I met would impregnate 1 woman each week and that’s in a good month

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  • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    s/science/pharma/

    Nature is crueler with stillbirths, ectopic pregnancies, blood type incompatibility, autoimmunity killing, etc., etc…

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  • bampop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If

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  • matmarspace@programming.dev ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t get it 🤔

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s in the name. Birth control

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wait…is this what that video game, 999, was about!?

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  • Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah too bad dna tests were invented after birth control, almost as if all the consequences for either party’s mistake landed on one of the teo sex’s involved…

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have built-in birth control.

    Also, I’d jump on a pill that allows safe (as in, no kid) sex with more fun, but it seems that’s hard to do.

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