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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The fact that you think that that response was defending sexism rather proves that you are not arguing from a point of good faith.

  No one is saying sexism doesn’t exist, but that’s not the point being argued here.

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  • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Bye

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t have had to explain common sense things if you had thought about it for 10 seconds before posting your comment. So any condescending attitude you feel you experienced is entirely your own problem.

      The thing about logical thought is that it doesn’t actually care about your feelings. You’re the one that decided to try and couch this in terms of misogyny, but the reality is that female birth control simply developed first and had a huge impact on women as a result. And even if reliable male birth control existed (there are experiments ongoing but it’s certainly not publicly available) women would still have to take birth control themselves in order to guarantee they wouldn’t get pregnant, precisely because of the disparity of fertility mentioned in the image. So whether or not male birth control exists, basically has no bearing on women.

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• kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’d suggest actually reading the article you’re providing as a source:

  Comparing the discontinued men’s study to what we know — or don’t know — about how hormonal contraception affect women isn’t really feasible, experts said.

  There’s still research underway to develop a hormonal option, Colvard noted. And many researchers said this trial provides potentially helpful insight.

  Also encouraging: the fact that so many men said they would take the drug if it were available. Historically, the burden of controlling pregnancy has fallen on women, Breuner said. But now, the findings here show that may be shifting — and could in fact spur more interest on the part of drug developers.

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• Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Arguments like yours are hurting, not helping, women’s advocacy in modern medicine.

  When you throw out all nuance, it opens the door for misogynists to dismiss every valid concern that women have when it comes to systemic discrimination in medicine. You are also alienating men who support male birth control in the process.

  As someone who has had life threatening issues dismissed by doctors, been gaslit about the efficacy of my medications, berated for going to the ER when my doctor instructed me to, gone through an excruciating IUD insertion, trust me when I say I am the last person to defend sexism in medicine.

  However, male birth control isn’t as that simple of an issue. There are legitimate scientific barriers to developing male birth control. It doesn’t erode away the slow pace and funding in developing male birth control that is made worse by sexism, but sexism isn’t the full story.

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