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My mom once asked if my Jewish girlfriend celebrated Thanksgiving. When I scoffed, she reminded me that there weren’t any Jews on the Mayflower.
I reminded her that there weren’t any Catholics either.
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Submitted 2 weeks ago by scout10290@sh.itjust.works to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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ch00f@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
scout10290@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Nice. You gave her the burrrnn. Good job. We need to really start correcting much of this type of misinformation out there when people say it one day many many more will believe it.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a fight against windmills. There’s a certain type of person who’s just totally resistant against learning new stuff. They got their opinion and that’s truth and screw everything else.
You might correct one thing, but by the time you did that they already dug up three new pieces of garbage.
It’s so frustrating.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In fairness, Thanksgiving wasn’t made a national holiday until 1863. By then, the US had plenty of Catholics, in no small part thanks to the Irish Potato Famine of the prior two decades.
It also had plenty of Jews, thanks to the Napoleonic Wars and the then-recent string of wars along the border of the Ottoman Empire.
Hell, it might be worth pointing out that the Mayflower was the product of the 30 Years War, which also produced a sizable exodus of Catholics and Jews to the New World.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s no hate like christian love
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It is really sad since not all Christians are like that
seralth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If the ones that aren’t like that gave a fuck they would do literally anything to stop the ones that are. But because that would hurt their precious religion they just ignore it instead.
As far as I’m concerned they are all dog shit people. Willingly turning a blind eye to hate from your own is no better than spewing it yourself.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The ones that aren’t didn’t do much to stop the ones that are from taking over. You’d think they’d care more about the blasphemous hatred they spew. It makes all Christians look bad.
brem@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Not all that segregate are doomed to hate. Just most.
Thanks for not telling us “we are going to hell”, we’re already here.
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The world is full of idiots. Save your sanity and ignore them.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Instructions unclear, ran off into the woods and ignored everyone
DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You’re doing it right.
foggy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Working out ok for me so far.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The world is full of idiots. Save your sanity and ignore them.
yeah, by ignoring them, they’re bringing back diseases that were managed well (polio, etc) and put the US in the hands of fascism.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s a tough pill to swallow because social media gives these idiots a megaphone and places their bullshit right alongside actual experts. These people are a cancer on society. Ignoring them is good for your sanity but it also allows them to spread their disease unchecked.
scarabic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ignoring them isn’t working out that great.
bier@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Christians fought for the land? You are talking about the genocide of native Americans? The same ones that owned slaves?.. Yeah ok, I understand why YOU like them so much now…
Saleh@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
About 20-30% of the people enslaved and deported to the US were Muslims.
The “Christians” brought Islam to North America by force.
Vreyan31@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
That is why they are trying to ban the facts you just shared.
Nothing but pro-White Nationalism propaganda allowed
kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Lots of folks in the US don’t really have an understanding of religion as a separate thing from nationality.
They think of “being Christian” as “being like the other white people in my neighborhood growing up”. End of thought.
So drinking beer, watching football, and hating taxes are all “Christian things” to them.
So when they say “Christians — and only Christians — died for this country”, they’re 100% correct, according to their understanding of “being a Christian”. Cuz to them it basically just means “being an American”.
There’s really no way to convince them otherwise. It’s like telling someone that Velcro is really called “hook and loop”.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re basically saying: Christians don’t read the bible, they just act like their peers and all the bad habits that can go with that.
MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz 2 weeks ago
wellllllll…
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Except Frenchmen and Africans also fought and died for this country.
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wrong… A simple google search shows that Muslims did indeed fight in the US revolutionary war along side other colonists
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Or you could just say the 10 commandments are part of Islam.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
They’re part of the Old Testament, which pulls from Jewish scripture, but it’s all Abrahamic to me. They should post the Beatitudes if they really want to keep things Christian-specific, but they won’t. Why? Just read them (and the corresponding Woes in Luke) and you’ll see. The Wikipedia article should be enough: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cool, and sickish on rightwingers part, but also I didn’t realize they were even a minority population then past like- random individuals and families
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“If Muslims don’t like it, they should return to their native countries!” I cry, as I rubber stamp another billion dollar check to bomb the Levant.
zeropointone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What if it isn’t rage bait but a simple slice of the prevailing idiots point of view who think the US was founded a christian country.
Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
“not good, not bad”
socsa@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Are we talking about the Christians who very explicitly opposed the concept of a religious state? The ones who put that concept front and center in their Bill of Rights?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Who didn’t even necessarily believe in god, just some kind of hands-off universe creator?
notoftenthat@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html
The Founders of this nation explicitly included Islam in their vision of the future of the republic. Freedom of religion, as they conceived it, encompassed it. Adherents of the faith were, with some exceptions, regarded as men and women who would make law-abiding, productive citizens. Far from fearing Islam, the Founders would have incorporated it into the fabric of American life.
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
God, fucking Christians. We need a slur for them or something so badly. I’m so sick of them.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I prefer the term “Christian” (as a slur)
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I started trying it out, it doesnt have the same zip as like, cross licker or whatever
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I like saying “CHRIST-ee-en”. It really pisses them off although it obviously shouldn’t.
Gaja0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
We always called them bible thumpers
Imhotep@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Replace christian with muslim and this becomes a far right comment
psycotica0@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Comedian James Acaster offers “crizzos” in one special. That’s got some zip to it.
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
ooooh thats really good
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Evangelicals
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Vanjos? Gelicals? Gotta be something here
Zozano@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
4chan had a term; Christfag.
If you take out the offence to the gay community, it’s actually a brutal phrase. It conjures up connotations of being literally gay for Jesus (which is really offensive to them).
Note: I’m not condoning the phrase, it’s obviously not something people should be saying.
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I’m aware of the term Christfag. I was there, Gandalf. 4chan also had an incredibly abrasive board culture as a means of social filtering, so {append}fag was their way of referring to someone who had identified as some way, or else for someone to refer to themselves as that thing, usually because they were trying to tell everyone they had unique perspective on what was being discussed. It got to the point where I saw a person open their post identifying as a “Gayfag.”
I don’t like using the term for this because its punching down at an actually oppressed minority who would be caught in the crossfire.
bbiva@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
I refer to them as Fundies (i.e., Fundamentalists). That seems to cover all the obnoxious christians.
biofaust@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In Italy, in our Humanist association we used “credini” for all religious people.
“Cretini” means “idiots” (originally “affected by cretinism”, the developmental syndrome caused by iodine deficit during pregnancy).
“Credere” is the verb meaning “to believe”.
So it could be read as “believing idiots”.
Always loved it and have been trying to replicate it somehow in English ever since.
Brutticus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I love it. I might turn it over in my head for a minute
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Christians” also stole this land and genocided people who had lived here since long before they came. Those who don’t like this should return to where their forefathers came from, no?
scout10290@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
[deleted]Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ouch, did I completely forget that part. Yup, those cultures also must be made widely known
BussyGyatt@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
No, because, you see, after a certain amount of time the land just defaults to the ownership of whoever currently occupies the land, morally speaking. Why yes, I do happen to be the current occupant of the land, why do you ask?
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, the amount of time? That depends, of course!
“… hmm let me see… hey Johnson, when did we land here again?”
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Damn that is so good. Take my upvote!
daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Nyeah nyeah, my god is better than yours” - some cunt failing to realize they worship the same god
crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Well, it’s a secular country, and that means freedom from religion. I don’t give a shit about your Christian bullshit, and if I saw that garbage posted in my child’s school, I’d tear it down myself.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Jesus would hate his followers. They have zero understanding of the message. But that’s ok, cause he wasn’t the Messiah, nor was he a historical figure, so nothing lost there.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
“If God truly does exist, he more so loves the atheist who questions the world around him than the Christian who blindly follows.”
Thomas Jefferson
50% of the Founding Fathers were agnostic or atheist. My question is: why does she hate America?
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 weeks ago
I have met Muslims who fight for America. Let’s see her military service that she’s so proud of
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
TIL that nobody in the US military that has died has never ever been Muslim.
Jilanico@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
~20% of the slaves brought to America were Muslim. Several fought during the Revolutionary War including Bampett Muhamed, Yusuf ben Ali (also known as Joseph Benhaley), and Joseph Saba: nmaahc.si.edu/…/african-muslims-early-america
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People don’t read. Paraphrasing:
Jesus (J): “Why would you call me ‘good’? Only the Father is good.” Muhammed (M): “Our Lord has decreed mercy upon Himself, so to anyone who commits sin out of ignorance and then repents and amends, He is Forgiving, Merciful.”
J: “It’s harder for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than it is for a rich man to enter Heaven.” M: “Those who hoard gold and silver and don’t spend it in the cause of God, give them news of a painful retribution.”
J: “You have been told ‘do not murder, for whoever murders will be judged for it’, but I tell you anyone who is angry and insults their brother will be judged for it too.” M: “The righteous are those who suppress their anger and pardon the people. God loves the good doers.”
njm1314@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just don’t want their pedophile religion forced on me and my kids. Full stop.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Adjective-noun-number profile? That’s a bot
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure there have been plenty of Jews, Muslims, Atheists, and others that have bled for the US too.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
indigenous people did, are you ok to shoe their spirituality in schools? I am sure there will be mass conversions lol
tartarin@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Whatever, the whole point is the religion shouldn’t be in schools in the first place. Get it out.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Lots of muslims have died so that the US could get its hands on more oil and stuff tho.
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Spoken like a true dipshit. Does this person think the us military is 100% Christian?? We’re doomed man. We lost 100 years of progress in the blink of an eye
bobbyguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
well this guy deserves to be tard and feathered
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every time someone tells me about the ten commandments, I ask them to name all ten. They can never name all ten. On the flip side, if somebody starts talking about UBI they can usually say what all three letters stand for.
floo@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Muslims have a long and proud history of serving this country with distinction for centuries.
en.wikipedia.org/…/Muslims_in_the_United_States_m…
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The first country to recognize the US was Morocco, an overwhelmingly Muslim nation then, and before then, and now. And for that long-lasting support, real Americans suggest they don’t belong here.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It wasn’t …France, who was there fighting with us for that independence?
scout10290@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The current administration is certainly forgetting those folks.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Personally I do think it should be required to post some amount of Islamic concepts. Among the many ways we are too provincial is seeing everything through the eyes of a single religion family. Even our friends and neighbors seem alien when we aren’t even aware there are other religions.
Let’s require at least some comparative religion study, perhaps in social studies and history. The major religions have had a huge impact on the development of our societies and we should all be more familiar with beliefs held in common or u destined where they’re actually different (and not just the Fix News version)
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They should learn about Christianity and Islam in their history textbooks. That’s fucking it.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Most states do require some comparative religion in high school history. I’ve taught it.
Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and the Abrahamic faiths were in the curriculum. What was really fascinating was having a high schooler that had no idea what Christianity was. I live in the Bible Belt!
But yeah, understanding things like the Five Pillars of Islam humanizes Muslims. Understanding why a classmate isn’t eating all day, knowing that Muslims are required to donate some to charity if they can…
I think even some of the quasi Christian groups should be covered, but that’s a lot dicier. I don’t know if JW kids’ parents would want them to learn about the Great Disappointment, or Mormon families would approve of discussing Jo Smith’s child brides… (much less that official Mormon theology was that Native Americans would turn white if converted, or the best outcome for black folks was being a servant in the afterlife)