Submitted 6 hours ago by scout10290@sh.itjust.works to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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This poetgirl on Instagram says some off the wall shit.
Some of these old bitches have totally lost their mind and just spread misinformation.
This is more than mildly infuriating for me but I wasn’t quite sure where else to post this lol.
“If Muslims don’t like it, they should return to their native countries!” I cry, as I rubber stamp another billion dollar check to bomb the Levant.
Are we talking about the Christians who very explicitly opposed the concept of a religious state? The ones who put that concept front and center in their Bill of Rights?
My mom once asked if my Jewish girlfriend celebrated Thanksgiving. When I scoffed, she reminded me that there weren’t any Jews on the Mayflower.
I reminded her that there weren’t any Catholics either.
In fairness, Thanksgiving wasn’t made a national holiday until 1863. By then, the US had plenty of Catholics, in no small part thanks to the Irish Potato Famine of the prior two decades.
It also had plenty of Jews, thanks to the Napoleonic Wars and the then-recent string of wars along the border of the Ottoman Empire.
Hell, it might be worth pointing out that the Mayflower was the product of the 30 Years War, which also produced a sizable exodus of Catholics and Jews to the New World.
Nice. You gave her the burrrnn. Good job. We need to really start correcting much of this type of misinformation out there when people say it one day many many more will believe it.
It’s a fight against windmills. There’s a certain type of person who’s just totally resistant against learning new stuff. They got their opinion and that’s truth and screw everything else.
You might correct one thing, but by the time you did that they already dug up three new pieces of garbage.
It’s so frustrating.
Lots of folks in the US don’t really have an understanding of religion as a separate thing from nationality.
They think of “being Christian” as “being like the other white people in my neighborhood growing up”. End of thought.
So drinking beer, watching football, and hating taxes are all “Christian things” to them.
So when they say “Christians — and only Christians — died for this country”, they’re 100% correct, according to their understanding of “being a Christian”. Cuz to them it basically just means “being an American”.
There’s really no way to convince them otherwise. It’s like telling someone that Velcro is really called “hook and loop”.
Muslims have a long and proud history of serving this country with distinction for centuries.
The first country to recognize the US was Morocco, an overwhelmingly Muslim nation then, and before then, and now. And for that long-lasting support, real Americans suggest they don’t belong here.
Yes. I have served with some.
Also, let’s not forget the interpreters we had that risked their lives to help us. Many we worked to bring back to the states. They are amazing people and I would choose any interpreter that I ever worked with over my own mom. My mom was horrible btw.
Personally I do think it should be required to post some amount of Islamic concepts. Among the many ways we are too provincial is seeing everything through the eyes of a single religion family. Even our friends and neighbors seem alien when we aren’t even aware there are other religions.
Let’s require at least some comparative religion study, perhaps in social studies and history. The major religions have had a huge impact on the development of our societies and we should all be more familiar with beliefs held in common or u destined where they’re actually different (and not just the Fix News version)
They should learn about Christianity and Islam in their history textbooks. That’s fucking it.
Most states do require some comparative religion in high school history. I’ve taught it.
Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and the Abrahamic faiths were in the curriculum. What was really fascinating was having a high schooler that had no idea what Christianity was. I live in the Bible Belt!
But yeah, understanding things like the Five Pillars of Islam humanizes Muslims. Understanding why a classmate isn’t eating all day, knowing that Muslims are required to donate some to charity if they can…
I think even some of the quasi Christian groups should be covered, but that’s a lot dicier. I don’t know if JW kids’ parents would want them to learn about the Great Disappointment, or Mormon families would approve of discussing Jo Smith’s child brides… (much less that official Mormon theology was that Native Americans would turn white if converted, or the best outcome for black folks was being a servant in the afterlife)
Muricaaaa!
Well, it’s a secular country, and that means freedom from religion. I don’t give a shit about your Christian bullshit, and if I saw that garbage posted in my child’s school, I’d tear it down myself.
The world is full of idiots. Save your sanity and ignore them.
Instructions unclear, ran off into the woods and ignored everyone
You’re doing it right.
Working out ok for me so far.
The world is full of idiots. Save your sanity and ignore them.
yeah, by ignoring them, they’re bringing back diseases that were managed well (polio, etc) and put the US in the hands of fascism.
What’s the alternative to ignoring them? You can’t make them smarter. You can’t exclude them from voting without creating something similar to fascism. Not even removing warning labels helps because idiots don’t read them anyway.
It’s a tough pill to swallow because social media gives these idiots a megaphone and places their bullshit right alongside actual experts. These people are a cancer on society. Ignoring them is good for your sanity but it also allows them to spread their disease unchecked.
Agreed. But digging a little bit more on this person and you’ll find it just gets better. I was entertained for a bit and then moved on
I am skeptical that most people saying this type of shit really have no concept of the US having freedom of religion and separation of church and state as founding values. They just believe in the rightness of propaganda and catchy ideological phrases above actual truth and reality, because they’ve been conditioned to think that way.
The Ten Commandments are in the Quran as well I would guess.
Lots of muslims have died so that the US could get its hands on more oil and stuff tho.
The question never asked is if you want a bible in school which one. There are 19 different versions of the Christian bible just off the top of my head. There are probably many more. When they make they make it generic everyone just assumes they mean their version and that is how fascist get what they want.
Thats why its important to keep the state out out of church is as important as keeping the church out of the state.
It’s always the King James Bible.
I really don’t get why English speakers are so glued to the King James Bible. Most other languages keep re-translating the bible, aiming for more accuracy and more understandable language for modern audiences.
Pretty much every time I’ve seen anyone actually deal with the King James Bible, they have a set of explanations what this or that thing actually means. It’s the worst possible bible to use for anything.
And that’s on top of the concept that a 2000+ year old text is supposed to contain all the wisdom ever needed.
I went to college in a small town, there was a festival every fall in the old downtown area, and a religious group would get a booth right in front of the bar we liked to go to. They would forcibly hand out those tiny little new testaments to everyone trying to walk into the bar. The bar owner put a 50 gallon trash can right inside the door. It was full of those bibles. Such a waste of paper.
I give this ragebait a 6/10. Could be worse, could be better.
“not good, not bad”
What if it isn’t rage bait but a simple slice of the prevailing idiots point of view who think the US was founded a christian country.
Did someone forgot to ask whose land they took from
The pirates?
Spoken like a true dipshit. Does this person think the us military is 100% Christian?? We’re doomed man. We lost 100 years of progress in the blink of an eye
Ya I’m not Christian and I fought along side other non Christians in the early 2000s. This account really spreads a lot of misinformation. And the thing is, if you dig deeper you’ll find that I think she is a teacher in Texas. I won’t go further than that. I was just doing some OSINT work for a PI buddy and just stumbled across this so I looked at it for a minute. I know there are so many people that push fake info but I just kinda hung here for a moment and then moved on.
tell me you've never been to arlington national cemetary without telling me you've never been to arlington national cemetary
Ha true.
But also I’ve never been and I fought in the early 2000s. I just lost too many buds and could never bring myself to go there. But family went and took pics and parents if my buddies sent me funeral DVDs that I still can’t bring myself to watch.
Who are the 10 commandants and why should I listen to them
That’s likely not a person, but a bot.
It’s definitely a person. I dug into them a little more to confirm.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 minutes ago
Jesus would hate his followers. They have zero understanding of the message. But that’s ok, cause he wasn’t the Messiah, nor was he a historical figure, so nothing lost there.