Platinium
Goldium
Silverium
Leadium
Add it to the pile of reasons to hate 'em
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Stamets@lemmy.world to memes@sopuli.xyz
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Soulg@ani.social 5 weeks ago
anaVal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
The latin names had -um suffixes
- Gold - Aurum
- Silver - Argentum
- Lead - Plumbum
also:
- Copper - Cuprum
- Iron - Ferrum
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Aluminum already has an -um suffix so there’s no need to change it
RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Platinium sounds so much better than platinum
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Molybdenium
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Mercuryium
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
The only ones they teach you about in the US, huh? And also not about their latin names apparently.
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Aluminum was the original name, YOU GUYS HAD TO GO AND CHANGE IT
Doom@ttrpg.network 5 weeks ago
Just like soccer.
Look the language is ours now england, you lost the right.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ya will Trump is going to rename it to Amerinum now.
dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
check out number 95
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
No, it’s Aluminum of America.
lime@feddit.nu 5 weeks ago
i thought the original name was alumium?
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Alumina ore was smelted/refined to isolate the pure metal.
Using the preexisting naming convention that ore->metal goes a->um, the discoverer of the element named it Aluminum.
Later, British chemists got mad that their US naming standard was different from their own standard.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Stuff does occasionally change
In like… Science
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes, but when naming new things you typically go with… you know… the person that discovered and named it
gmtom@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
No, it’s was Alumium originally. So you guys changed it too, but decided to chsbge it to something worse.
Wilco@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
We say it the original correct way in the US. Other countries changed it for some reason. The guy that discovered it in 1808, Sir Humphrey Davy named it “Alumium” which based on Alumen (Latin for bitter salt)but quickly changed it to “Aluminum”. I swear I remember reading that he kept getting shit on by the science community and his friends for naming a metal “bitter salt” in Latin … but can’t find a reference.
His colleagues in Britain did mess with him and start using the name “Aluminium” … exactly because it ended in “ium” like ALL the other elements (Oxygenium, Carbonium, Ironium, Zincium, Nitrogenium, and the like). They US just kept the name the discoverer wanted instead of giving into those British asshats that just wanted to troll Sir Davy.
He also isolated Magnesium and named it “magnium”, but later changed to magnesium. The guy just couldnt settle on names. Again, in my version of reality it is because his friends kept giving him shit.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They US just kept the name the discoverer wanted instead of giving into those British asshats that just wanted to troll Sir Davy.
It probably wasnt really a willful defiance thing. It’s likely more correct to say that we kept the name because by the time they changed it officially in Europe, we had millions of students across the country that had textbooks with the name Aluminum in it, that had already been taught the original name, and if the inconsistentcy was even important enought to consider “correcting”, it was likely deemed too costly and too much of a headache to change at the time. By the time people were buying reprints/new editions/more recently written textbooks anyway, professional chemists in the US had been calling it Aluminum for years. Given how isolated we were from Europe in the early 1800s, there was very little pressure to align with them on it, and so it stayed. The longer it stayed the more likely it was to be permanent, and here we are.
But yeah, Sir Humphrey Davy was an indecisive wishy-washy namer of elements, disseminated multiple names across the world, but somehow that is our fault when we just stuck with the one we were given and everyone else changed over nitpicky conventions. It’s not the only thing that Brits shit on about American English that is entirely their invention or their mistake:
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“Soccer” being a British term short for “Association Football”
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The season “Fall” being a British term shortened from the phrase “The Fall of the Leaf” and directly complementary to “Spring” which comes from the phrase “The Spring of the Leaf”, which they still use despite making fun of Americans for “Fall”.
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“Dove” instead of “dived”, “pled” instead of “pleaded”, “have gotten” instead of “have got”, etc. all started in Britain but were dropped there and stayed in the US.
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“Herb” being pronounced with an audible “h”. The word is borrowed from French, where the h is silent, exactly like , “honorary”, and “honesty”. Neither country pronounces either of those words with an “h” sound, but that doesnt stop people like Eddie Izzard shitting on how Americans say it with a silent “h” despite the American pronunciation being, arguable, more correct given the word’s origins.
Wilco@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I suspect that if the US had adopted the name “Aluminium” Britain would have changed it again and they would be making fun of us for not calling it “Aluminiumium”.
hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I think you’ll enjoy this: Silent Letter Day.
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gmtom@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
We say it the original correct way in the US
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Sir Humphrey Davy named it “Alumium”
Wilco@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I explained the whole naming process. You gotta read it. The US was given the name as Aluminum and did not change it when the British changed it a third time.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The only reason it’s called ‘Aluminum’ in the US is that name was popularised in the Webster’s dictionary in the US as he took the name that marketers were using at the time (as they thought it sounded fancy like Platinum). Prior to that it was widely called ‘Aluminium’ in the US as well as the rest of the world - as it was the dominant name scientifically, and nobody else used it as it wasn’t widely commercially used.
This is all on Wikipedia, dunno why people feel the need to make up their own stories every single time this comes up, but it does make us laugh.
Wilco@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
From the Wikipedia page you linked;
Davy suggested the metal be named alumium in 1808[30] and aluminum in 1812, thus producing the modern name.[29] Other scientists used the spelling aluminium
The name Aluminium never caught on in the US. It appeared in a few books and was in a dictionary, but so we’re words like Soop (for Soup) and greef (for grief). These did not catch on, Americans just kept using Aluminum. Webster wanted to standardize words … but nobody wanted to use dawter instead of daughter. They did stop using “Gaol” and used Jail instead.
The word history was “alumium” in 1807, then changed to “aluminum” in 1808. It was not changed to “aluminium” until 1812
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
If you hate Americans because of this, of all things, then you’re going to lose your mind when you find out about everything that’s happened this year.
gens@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Or the last 200 years.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Am I the only one who finds differences in american vs british english cool, instead of a reason to be a dick
vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Let’s table that discussion.
Tap for spoiler
The meanings of “table” as a verb in US vs UK parliamentary usage are literally opposites. With the US meaning being to stop discussing or put aside for later, while the UK version means to begin discussing. This actually caused confusion during allied meetings in WWII.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oxygen-ium
Fatalwire@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I expected Waltwr in the meme.
Didnt excpect the element symbol in the gif
No notes
ItsMrChristmas@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Substance discovered by folks that called it alum or aluminum for literally five centuries then the Brits come galloping in to colonize the accepted name then try to look down on everyone else
Etterra@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
Then they stole all their ancient artefacts to put in their own museums.
Kirca@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Cool narrative you got there mate, problem is while the term “alum” was used for (far more than) 5 centuries, the words “aluminium” and “aluminium” were both coined around the same time, roughly 1810ish. Also, Sir. Davy, who coined the phrase that you hold dear, was British.
Tldr: every part of that statement is wrong
ItsMrChristmas@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
It is really weird how you agreed with me and yet still said I was wrong.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
We canadians also say Aluminum and I would like to be represented in this comic as a target of mockery alongside the US thank you.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Aluminium is not the -ium of alumin
Aluminium is the genericitation of aluminum.
The actual -ium is of alum. The original name is alumium.
Aluminum is a modification of alumiun, not aluminium
fox2263@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You could be right.
However. It’s the internet and I can’t read
P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sorry, I’m siding with my American compatriots on this one. Yours sounds silly.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
“Aluminium” sounds like something a fantasy writer would call aluminum in their novel just to make it sound magical.
18107@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Aluminuminium. Now everyone gets to be happy.
ximtor@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It confused me a bit when reading the Mistborn series. Wtf is aluminum and why have i never heard of that? Do they just call Aluminium differently because of story reasons? Did i miss something? Are the other metals correct?
Good books tho
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Aluminum is the original name for the element. It was changed to be more in line with the others in its group.
gens@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Like in the tv shows when they say “epinephrine”, and I was like wtf is that? for years.
And later on with the amazing metal called tungsten. Why have I never heard of it?
(Its andrenaline and wolfram)
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Acetaminophen / Paracetamol is probably the one I see the most.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Wait until you learn why it’s called epinephrine. Then you’ll really roll your eyes.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Bendalloy is a commercial name, which is for the best because we’d hate for Wayne to burn Wood’s metal
psychadlligoat@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Always find it funny how the French and British traditionally hate on each other but the British will defend to the death the stupid French shit we stole for our language
the amount of times I've seen people get pissed off at the American English removal of the useless "u" is actually fucking silly
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The English ‘stole’ words from the French in the same way half the European world ‘stole’ Roman roads, words, and customs.
They were colonised by the Normans you silly codswallop. The British retain French words because they were forced on them by the aristocracy a thousand years ago.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I remember the battle of Hastings like it was yesterday.
SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
It’s even sillier when you realize (hah!) that -or came from Latin, and -our came from Old French, and both had been used interchangeably in English for at least a century when Samuel Johnson decided to use -our in his dictionary, and Noah Webster decided to use -or. So Britons and Yankees are equally (in)correct.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
I mean we hate on the french, but it’s mostly good natured ribbing. Also wasn’t most of the french imposed on us post invasion rather than stealing?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
Uh-loom-in-um slides off the tongue easier than Al-oo-mini-um.
PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m gonna take this chance to air my personal grievance with “Iodine”, which is commonly pronounced (in America at least) “aye-o-dine”, but if we look at all of the other halogen, their “-ine” ending is pronounced “-een”, and therefore iodine should clearly be pronounced “aye-o-deen”.
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Al is Arabic for “the,” “um” was because the scientist forgot what he wanted to say, “in” means inside, and “um” also means the scientist forgot what to say and likely ran away.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Go and get some platinium and if you want to go old fashioned you may like aurium.
modern_drift@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not listening to countries that say “zed” for the letter z.
Bed, ced, ded, ed, ged, ped, ted, ved? No? Zee.
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What gets me is an Americanism that seems to have only taken hold in the last 10 years or so - Normalcy. Apparently it’s been in use since 1920 but I’m sure it’s only recently become ubiquitous in the US. The word is NORMALITY my American friends. Normalcy is a horrible Frankenstien word which sounds and looks horrible written. =p
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
I, a man of culture, call it Alimony.
Soapbox@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
You should just be happy that we aren’t all still calling it “tin.”
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Dubya would start a nukular war over it.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Alumium
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 weeks ago
Too many syllables.
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Aluminio
chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
ITT a bunch of weird pedantic nerds that hate language and don’t read enough books.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
The five syllable elements are all weird radioactive things. If Al has five syllables it might make my beer can radioactive or poisonous. Better keep the syllable count on Al to four or less like all of the other normal elements.
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Back on my did there was an element called unununium until some
nuclear scientistsbismuth-munching paper-pushers with nickel allergies decided in 2004 that they liked Röntgen more than Regirock.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Pronounce ‘bottle of water’ right now OP
Stamets@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Okay
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
OMFG this is amazing
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bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is a top class response 👏
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
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Hubi@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Holy shit lmfao
root@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Lmao. Well done.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is modern art
Vent@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Pastry Pete, is that you?
QualifiedKitten@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
I don’t even like podcasts, but where do I subscribe to your’s??
ReplicantBatty@lemmy.one 5 weeks ago
I want this as the voice on my GPS
Wanderer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
media1.tenor.com/m/…/glasses-over.gif
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
You’re gay and canadian? Notice me, senpai!
>.>
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You did drop the t to a glottal stop in your last glass of water, though, just saying! :P
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Still image with text: Jim Carrey in the movie Dumb and Dumber saying "so you’re telling me there’s a chance
FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 5 weeks ago
bo’o ‘o’ wa’a
Swakkel@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Get up, come on, get down with the sickness!
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Don’t you mean “boddul of warder”?