I assume they mean “just north of Antarctica”. But really it could be any body of water on the planet it could fit in.
what is north?
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saltesc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
“Just north of Antarctica” is still not helpful at all though. Even a hemisphere would narrow it down more.
evidences@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just north of Antarctica in the southern hemisphere.
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The peninsula is considered the north side. So the location of the shipwreck is south of South America.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It literally says beneath the Weddell sea.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Yeah… probably “between Antarctica and the South Atlantic” would be the best reference here.
[Now it’s probably not the time for me to ramble on how the Atlantic should be considered two oceans instead of one, right?]
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
It is helpful in that it gives an idea of what sort of waters it sank at. Being close to Antarctica my mind immediately goes to heavy seas with cold weather.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
The location is being kept secret to prevent looting.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
saltesc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ah. South of the Arctic.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah even “near Antarctica” narrows it down to the South Atlantic, South Pacific and South Indian oceans.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
if we suppose “just” means near in this context, “Just north of antarctica” and “Near antarctica” has exactly the same meaning.
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
recently_Coco@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Fun fact: I have never actually seen a clip of this with audio, so I always give this guy the Skeletor voice in my head and I just realized he probably doesn’t sound like that.
monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I looked it up. m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWlWUUYejc
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
I might have seen it once a long time ago, but I don’t remember what he sounded like, so I can’t confirm that for you.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not ‘north of Antarctica’.
It is, ‘the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.’
Giving ‘the Weddell Sea’ as the location is actually decently specific, and the ‘north of Antarctica’ that follows is modifying / adding to the description of ‘the Weddell Sea’.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Weddell sea is good, mentioning Antarctica is good, the word “North” is meaningless in this context which is what the OP is laughing about.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
It should probably say, “off the Antarctic coast”, or even “X kilometers off the Antarctic coast”.
SloganLessons@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea near antarctica is obviously going to be north of it
LotrOrc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just looking at that map seems to show the Ross sea to the south
jj4211@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It is still valid to point out that “north of Antartica” is a silly phrase in context, even though it’s fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been “Weddell Sea, near Antarctica”.
blackbrook@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’d go with “the Antarctic’s Weddell Sea”.
dmention7@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
While you’re not wrong, you’re also massively over-analyzing and "WELL AKSHULLY"ing what appears to be a silly one-liner, not a serious attempted dunk on the article.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I am not going to apologize for having humor standards above that of a middle schooler.
Tja@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.
I have two dollars, less than infinity.
The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.
Doesn’t add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It adds something, it specifies the nearest location, if we assume the basic sanity of the sentence. Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica would be insane thing to say. Mediterranean Sea, north of Africa however is a proper signifier.
LotrOrc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The map he linked literally shows the Ross sea south of Antarctica.
Also since its earth is spherical and its near the south pole you can really go any direction and find a sea… that just becomes a matter of perspective.
In this case, specifically, the wedell sea is to the north of the continent
xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
show me which part of Weddell Sea isn’t North of Antarctica
bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It looks like some parts are south, east or west of parts of Antarctica. Sure, it’s all north of the south pole but that isn’t the question.
p3n@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica, brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
frostysauce@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’re not wrong, you’re just insufferable.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nah, op IS wrong. The “complaint” isn’t arguing grammar, it’s explicitly pointing out that there’s a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.
The sentence “I live north of Antarctica” gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.
The line may as well have been “The weddel sea, which is made of water,…”
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.
rumba@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck
Wolf@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Sure, if you happen to already know where the Wedell Sea is or if you look it up it you can reasonably locate it, in which case adding the “north of Antarctica” part is superfluous. But if you don’t already know where the Wedell Sea is, adding in the “north of Antarctica” part doesn’t actually narrow it down any, which is why it’s a funny thing to point out.
If they had wrote “just north of Antarctica” or “off the coast of Antarctica” or “near Antarctica”, that would have narrowed it down significantly.
Now that I have thoroughly explained the joke, I imagine it’s much funnier now.
I’m sure that “Mark “Three-Jabs” Newton” and the rest of us who found this funny were able to deduce from the context that is actually what the writer meant . That isn’t what they actually wrote though so “sp3ctr4l” is not only incorrect in asserting that Mark has “poor reading comprehension”, he is also wrong that ‘reading the whole thing’ would have clarified things and was extremely condescending about his incorrect statement at the same time, which makes him kind of an ass imo.
He was correct that Mark was “intentionally being a little shit” so 1 out of 3 wouldn’t have been so bad if he weren’t such a douche about it at the same time.
Krudler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You better believe I’m here for this squabbling
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Could you enlighten me, then? How on earth does “north of Antarctica” modifiy or add to “the Weddell Sea” in any way, shape, or form?
andyspam@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The Endurance has been found, 3000 metres beneath the Weddell Sea, [which is]north of Antarctica.
Etterra@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
Yeah that popped out to me immediately. I looked up the Weddell Sea and as your shared map shows, it’s a big but well identified area. It’s not like they said it’s in the Pacific Ocean or some shit.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Prime “AKSHUALLY” moment.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
If “north of Antarctica” isn’t enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it’s also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it’s easy to find it!
pomfegranate@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
We don’t talk about what’s South of Antarctica
dellish@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We’re not allowed to know /s
Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Baby don’t hurt me.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.
daddycool@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And west of the equator.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Just in the South of the Arctic
borax7385@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Top left corner is the Weddell Sea so we know it’s in that direction
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
everybody know “top-left” means north-west ! just say that !
Case@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
I used to ask my dad where we were on car trips.
“Directly above the center of the earth.” Thanks asshole.
JargonWagon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s a good one *takes notes
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The earth is a bit lumpy, so chances are that was a lie and he was actually lost and couldn’t figure out how to get everybody else out of the car so he could go on a trip to get milk.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
*Straight above the gravitational center of mass of the Earth
Sheeeeesh, happy?
glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I can construct a weird true statement from this: All continents besides Antarctica are located North of the South-Pole.
Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Technically, almost all of Antarctica is located north of the south pole
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
If the south pole is a point, then it has no surface area, so the entirety of antartica is located north of the south pole
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Was Ernest okay?
blarghly@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Eventually, yes! To find out how, read his book. It’s honestly one of the best books I’ve ever read.
kalpol@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Also the miniseries with Kenneth Branagh is pretty good. Then for counterpoint watch The Last Place on Earth
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Are kids today so Vine-brained they don’t understand headline syntax? The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica.
raltoid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s not just kids, gen-z’s are legal adults now.
And for further clarification:
The Antarctic Peninsula(the long bit sticking out) is the furtest part away from the south pole in the antarctic and is thus the northernmost part, and is generally considered to be the “north” when using cardinal directions there. The Weddell Sea is off the coast of the peninsula.
kautau@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And is part of the southern ocean, to make it real clear
yozul@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
The entire Weddell Sea is just north of Antarctica. That’s where the Weddell Sea is. The problem is that everything near Antarctica is just north of Antarctica, including things on the complete opposite side of the entire continent. It’s just a way of saying near Antarctica that sounds like you’re giving more information than you really are.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I can specify: south of the arctic.
detun3d@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Baby don’t drift me 🎶🎵
Wakmrow@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
“this is a picture of me when I was younger” - Mitch Hedberg
ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Might as well just write it’s north of south
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 weeks ago
most probably between southamerica and antartica.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Near the British Empire then.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Of course they aren’t going to give the exact location. That wreck would be ransacked for scrap metal if it isn’t resting too deep. Like in Indonesia several WW2 shipwrecks have gone missing.
AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
It’s like a basic reading comprehension thing…
The ship is located in the Weddell Sea, which is north of Antarctica.
Bieren@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m good with it. Keep it somewhat hidden. Once the position gets out, every asshat with a scuba tank and calls themselves “an explorer” will ruin the place.
Bluewing@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I don’t know where his ship is, but the man had great taste in blended Scotch! If you run across a bottle of Shackleton in your local liqueur store, buy it.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Better north of antarctica than north of arctica.
NewDark@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
But they aren’t wrong
lath@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Don’t be too hard on them, they’re new.
garlicandonions@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I appreciate the “perhaps”, like, the headline qualifies how annoyed they are at imprecision.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ZeroDivisionError: division by zero
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Narrowed it down to a single planet.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
narrowed it down to 95% of a single planet!
melooone@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
If you exclude the landmass you narrowed it down to ~70% of a single planet.
marius@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
What a shame. A wreck on another planet would have been way more interesting