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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.

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    The location specified is not ‘north of Antarctica’.

    It is, ‘the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.’

    Giving ‘the Weddell Sea’ as the location is actually decently specific, and the ‘north of Antarctica’ that follows is modifying / adding to the description of ‘the Weddell Sea’.

    I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.

    Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.

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    • WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Weddell sea is good, mentioning Antarctica is good, the word “North” is meaningless in this context which is what the OP is laughing about.

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      • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It should probably say, “off the Antarctic coast”, or even “X kilometers off the Antarctic coast”.

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    • SloganLessons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea near antarctica is obviously going to be north of it

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      • LotrOrc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Just looking at that map seems to show the Ross sea to the south

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It is still valid to point out that “north of Antartica” is a silly phrase in context, even though it’s fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been “Weddell Sea, near Antarctica”.

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      • blackbrook@mander.xyz ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d go with “the Antarctic’s Weddell Sea”.

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    • dmention7@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      While you’re not wrong, you’re also massively over-analyzing and "WELL AKSHULLY"ing what appears to be a silly one-liner, not a serious attempted dunk on the article.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I am not going to apologize for having humor standards above that of a middle schooler.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.

      I have two dollars, less than infinity.

      The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.

      Doesn’t add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.

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      • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It adds something, it specifies the nearest location, if we assume the basic sanity of the sentence. Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica would be insane thing to say. Mediterranean Sea, north of Africa however is a proper signifier.

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      • LotrOrc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The map he linked literally shows the Ross sea south of Antarctica.

        Also since its earth is spherical and its near the south pole you can really go any direction and find a sea… that just becomes a matter of perspective.

        In this case, specifically, the wedell sea is to the north of the continent

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    • p3n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica, brought to you by the department of redundancy department.

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    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Could you enlighten me, then? How on earth does “north of Antarctica” modifiy or add to “the Weddell Sea” in any way, shape, or form?

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      • andyspam@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The Endurance has been found, 3000 metres beneath the Weddell Sea, [which is]north of Antarctica.

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    • xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      show me which part of Weddell Sea isn’t North of Antarctica

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      • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It looks like some parts are south, east or west of parts of Antarctica. Sure, it’s all north of the south pole but that isn’t the question.

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    • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You’re not wrong, you’re just insufferable.

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      • _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Nah, op IS wrong. The “complaint” isn’t arguing grammar, it’s explicitly pointing out that there’s a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.

        The sentence “I live north of Antarctica” gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.

        The line may as well have been “The weddel sea, which is made of water,…”

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    • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.

      I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.

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    • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You better believe I’m here for this squabbling

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck

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      • Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Sure, if you happen to already know where the Wedell Sea is or if you look it up it you can reasonably locate it, in which case adding the “north of Antarctica” part is superfluous. But if you don’t already know where the Wedell Sea is, adding in the “north of Antarctica” part doesn’t actually narrow it down any, which is why it’s a funny thing to point out.

        If they had wrote “just north of Antarctica” or “off the coast of Antarctica” or “near Antarctica”, that would have narrowed it down significantly.

        Now that I have thoroughly explained the joke, I imagine it’s much funnier now.

        I’m sure that “Mark “Three-Jabs” Newton” and the rest of us who found this funny were able to deduce from the context that is actually what the writer meant . That isn’t what they actually wrote though so “sp3ctr4l” is not only incorrect in asserting that Mark has “poor reading comprehension”, he is also wrong that ‘reading the whole thing’ would have clarified things and was extremely condescending about his incorrect statement at the same time, which makes him kind of an ass imo.

        He was correct that Mark was “intentionally being a little shit” so 1 out of 3 wouldn’t have been so bad if he weren’t such a douche about it at the same time.

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    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Prime “AKSHUALLY” moment.

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    • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah that popped out to me immediately. I looked up the Weddell Sea and as your shared map shows, it’s a big but well identified area. It’s not like they said it’s in the Pacific Ocean or some shit.

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    • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.

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  • not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Narrowed it down to a single planet.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      narrowed it down to 95% of a single planet!

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      • melooone@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        If you exclude the landmass you narrowed it down to ~70% of a single planet.

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    • marius@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What a shame. A wreck on another planet would have been way more interesting

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  • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I assume they mean “just north of Antarctica”. But really it could be any body of water on the planet it could fit in.

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “Just north of Antarctica” is still not helpful at all though. Even a hemisphere would narrow it down more.

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      • evidences@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Just north of Antarctica in the southern hemisphere.

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      • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The peninsula is considered the north side. So the location of the shipwreck is south of South America.

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      • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It literally says beneath the Weddell sea.

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      • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah… probably “between Antarctica and the South Atlantic” would be the best reference here.

        [Now it’s probably not the time for me to ramble on how the Atlantic should be considered two oceans instead of one, right?]

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It is helpful in that it gives an idea of what sort of waters it sank at. Being close to Antarctica my mind immediately goes to heavy seas with cold weather.

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      • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The location is being kept secret to prevent looting.

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    • wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, the Weddell Sea is basically in Antarctica

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      • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ah. South of the Arctic.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah even “near Antarctica” narrows it down to the South Atlantic, South Pacific and South Indian oceans.

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      • FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        if we suppose “just” means near in this context, “Just north of antarctica” and “Near antarctica” has exactly the same meaning.

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  • Case@lemmynsfw.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I used to ask my dad where we were on car trips.

    “Directly above the center of the earth.” Thanks asshole.

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    • JargonWagon@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s a good one *takes notes

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    • Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The earth is a bit lumpy, so chances are that was a lie and he was actually lost and couldn’t figure out how to get everybody else out of the car so he could go on a trip to get milk.

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      • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        *Straight above the gravitational center of mass of the Earth

        Sheeeeesh, happy?

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  • abfarid@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

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    • recently_Coco@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fun fact: I have never actually seen a clip of this with audio, so I always give this guy the Skeletor voice in my head and I just realized he probably doesn’t sound like that.

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      • monotremata@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I looked it up. m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWlWUUYejc

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      • abfarid@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I might have seen it once a long time ago, but I don’t remember what he sounded like, so I can’t confirm that for you.

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If “north of Antarctica” isn’t enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it’s also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it’s easy to find it!

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  • borax7385@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Top left corner is the Weddell Sea so we know it’s in that direction

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      • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        everybody know “top-left” means north-west ! just say that !

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  • AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s like a basic reading comprehension thing…

    The ship is located in the Weddell Sea, which is north of Antarctica.

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      they’re saying everywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica, so that doesn’t add anything. it’s deliberately obtuse for humorous effect. basic joke comprehension should be a thing.

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  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.

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    • daddycool@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And west of the equator.

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  • pomfegranate@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We don’t talk about what’s South of Antarctica

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    • dellish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We’re not allowed to know /s

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  • Bieren@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m good with it. Keep it somewhat hidden. Once the position gets out, every asshat with a scuba tank and calls themselves “an explorer” will ruin the place.

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    • rockstarmode@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      asshat with a scuba tank

      3000 meters

      Good luck

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      • Bieren@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Someone will try it don’t worry.

        That or some billionaire will send private subs down to it.

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  • glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I can construct a weird true statement from this: All continents besides Antarctica are located North of the South-Pole.

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    • Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Technically, almost all of Antarctica is located north of the south pole

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      • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If the south pole is a point, then it has no surface area, so the entirety of antartica is located north of the south pole

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  • Bluewing@discuss.online ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t know where his ship is, but the man had great taste in blended Scotch! If you run across a bottle of Shackleton in your local liqueur store, buy it.

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Better north of antarctica than north of arctica.

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  • LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I can specify: south of the arctic.

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  • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Just in the South of the Arctic

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  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Baby don’t hurt me.

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  • Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Was Ernest okay?

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    • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Eventually, yes! To find out how, read his book. It’s honestly one of the best books I’ve ever read.

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      • kalpol@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Also the miniseries with Kenneth Branagh is pretty good. Then for counterpoint watch The Last Place on Earth

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    • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.

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  • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Are kids today so Vine-brained they don’t understand headline syntax? The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica.

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Near the British Empire then.

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  • detun3d@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Baby don’t drift me 🎶🎵

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  • Wakmrow@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “this is a picture of me when I was younger” - Mitch Hedberg

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  • garlicandonions@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I appreciate the “perhaps”, like, the headline qualifies how annoyed they are at imprecision.

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Might as well just write it’s north of south

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  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    most probably between southamerica and antartica.

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  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Of course they aren’t going to give the exact location. That wreck would be ransacked for scrap metal if it isn’t resting too deep. Like in Indonesia several WW2 shipwrecks have gone missing.

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  • NewDark@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But they aren’t wrong

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ZeroDivisionError: division by zero

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Expedition 22 got some sweet tech

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  • lath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Don’t be too hard on them, they’re new.

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