As much as I resent religion, I do believe it’s fundamentally a human problem. People everywhere have a tendency to corrupt beliefs in order to justify being assholes to one another.
Maybe it's just a human thing.
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BigBenis@lemmy.world 58 minutes ago
doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 21 minutes ago
100%
That being said, dogmatic belief systems, which tend to be common in religion, seem to act as force multipliers in this regard.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
ITT people missing the point and projecting their own beliefs and values.
This is how people “strawman”. It’s easy to hate on atheists if you just see them all as their asshole members. The truth is that any group has their violent nutjobs and vocal minorities. You can’t just say all Muslims are terrorists just the same as you can’t say feminists are hateful crazies.
Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
The Christian one should be a missionary actually helping people. Christian faith that only exists in church is a false faith
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 1 day ago
The best example of an asshole atheist they could find was one making a shitty anti-theist meme, meanwhile the examples of asshole Christians and Muslims are violent
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
CCP and USSR stamped out religious practice, but go off.
As an Atheist myself, don’t delude yourself into thinking religion is unique in its capacity for horrors. Humans have that capacity, any group we make would also have that capacity.
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
I was commenting on the examples the meme chose to use. It implies they couldn’t find examples of violent atheists
Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
“Praise science!” - Southpark
laserm@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Mao, Kim jong un, Stalin…
drmoose@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
They weren’t killing in the name of atheism though
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Many atheists take part in racism and violence. There was plenty during the Cold War, collapse of Yugoslavia, Gulf War, post-9/11 and both Trump terms.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Yeah but they don’t do it in the name of atheism. Being an atheist doesn’t mean you can’t be a cunt just the same as being religious doesn’t mean you can’t be a cunt.
pyre@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
well you can find them on social media on women instead.
or look at a popular one like Dawkins who is busy being a transphobe nowadays. imagine being an atheist and wasting the remainder of your precious and only life trying to make the precious and only life of the most marginalized people in society even worse.
or sam harris who literally defended torture.
Kolrami@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Still. Putting Dawkins up against the KKK is a reach.
Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
There are a lot of edgy athiests using all their time attacking trans people these days, because an unfortunate number of them are mainly athiests as a way to hate Muslims. And the ones taking the time to attack trans people have almost all joined the alt right, which has been responsible for a lot of attacks on innocent people.
They may not be killing in the name of atheism, but they have been in the same of “reason” and “defence of women”.
Burninator05@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Maybe I’m sheltered but I don’t know of a single atheist attacking trans people. I’m not saying there aren’t any because anyone can be an asshole but I’m not sure if it’s a lot.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I haven’t seen that. Why would they need to be atheist to hate Muslims? You can do that from anywhere.
Sibshops@lemm.ee 1 day ago
The bottom-left one for Feminists doesn’t fit. The others are things that were created by their own group, for example, the KKK was created by Christians. That Feminist meme, on the other hand, wasn’t created by feminists but by someone else to mock them.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
And the “keep calm and hate god” was clearly created by a theist, not an atheist
Sibshops@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Good point. Why would an atheist hate something which doesn’t exist. The whole meme is bad.
angrystego@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
The word god is used as a stand-in for religion. A synecdoche.
Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I vote OP take the meme down and repost it with Shiela Jeffries or Camille Paglia replacing the feminist…
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
The number of assholes calling themselves feminists vastly outnumber the actual feminists.
Kena@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
Most feminists just don’t call themselves feminists anymore because doing so makes you very likely to get harassed
lowleveldata@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TBF I think it’d be risky to use legit examples for that panel
rational_lib@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
3 of these are real examples things the people on the right did, the last is a meme made to make fun of feminists. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a level of feminism that goes too far, I just have yet to see an example of this in real life. There’s something about women in general that makes society dismiss them offhand as silly and ridiculous.
gmtom@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
So you’ve never met a TERF in real life?
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 34 minutes ago
I think the term mostly refers to bigots. Most “TERFs” aren’t even radfems, they just use “protecting women” as an excuse for their bigotry.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
There are some women like that in real life actually
cholesterol@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
And ‘assholes’ just appear at random? Nothing in these groups increases or decreases the asshole frequency? Imagine if we thought of all culture that way. Forget about progressive politics changing people’s minds and thereby their behavior. “Some people are just ‘assholes’, what are you gonna do?”
lefixxx@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally. You fight assholiness in the individual level. You can’t change a culture like that. You can only educate people and they will change their own culture.
cholesterol@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally.
If you agree that bad ideas can be part of cultures (large or small) to a higher or lesser degree, it follows that some cultures have a higher frequency of people with the need for the individual ‘education’ you’re suggesting.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Assholes of our worser nature?
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Also, Nye isn’t an athiest. He’s a devoteé of Cervinas.
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
hi. proud asshole here. destroy all abrahamic religions for the sake of humanity.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 hours ago
Nothing has done more harm than religion.
HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
Pollution and by extension capitalism. Why only harm select groups of people, when you can harm the entire future of all people.
glorkon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No atheist hates god. How can you hate something you don’t think exists?
kshade@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
People hate on fictional characters all the time though.
angrystego@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I guess you can hate god as a concept. God can be proven to exists in human minds (no esoteric stuff, just psychology and sociology). You can hate this scientific fact and what it means for humankind.
HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 1 day ago
The correct word would be “antitheist”
Lemminary@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
It’s misotheist
glorkon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That’s as may be, but that’s not the word that was used in the meme.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Tbf, you can think god isn’t “real” while also hating the concept of “god” for being responsible for so much war and division throughout history (among other reasons.)
glorkon@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Well in that case, if a religious person accuses you that you hate their god, it’s still not true. Because that religious person thinks of their god as a real entity, while you hate their concept of god. The target of that hate is not the same.
laserm@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
There is a difference between god as a character and God as a concept; the former one is (in my belief) nonexistent, the latter exists as long as his worshipper worship him.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I dunno. I’m not entirely an atheist (my religion is blasphemy. If the gods exist, they like a target) but I can hate something I don’t think exists. Some of those deities are godsdamned genocidal maniacs and pedophiles.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
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actually dangerous extremist
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guy in a ninja costume with a knife
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weird meme
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completely made up stereotype
1/4: do better next time!
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Misandrists exist, but most are harmless. Social media just does a good job of amplifying them like all outrage.
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
No it doesn’t. You just don’t want to admit that you benefit from misogyny.
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MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Its always fun when the christian pastor will joke about changing the carpets in the church, while i see posts about the muslims in ramadan will give food to the poor during thier religious month or ramadan.
Hell (jumping to the dark side. Sorry muslims) but suicide bombers are willing to give thier life to what they believe in (yes, killing others is bad, but giving your life to a cause is respectible), while my christian pastor will live next to neighbours sleeping on a matress in thier front yard, and do nothing to help thier PHYSICAL neighbour.
Maybe I am the outlier, but for all I see, Christians are the ones pretending to do good, while the muslims had a rough patch almost 20 years ago, and are doing more good that the christians in the last 5 years or so.
Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Not sure where you’re from, but in germany and austria, christians are definitely doing good. Churches here have a lot of support networks for everyone, especially elderly and people in need. In germany, we also have the “diakonie”, a service of the … protestant church? (idk how to translate that properly into english, the opposites of catholics here lmao), which is a major part of elderly care. And in many villages or smaller cities, the churches are open during the night for the homeless to take shelter, if they want to.
While I’m really not a big fan of religions in general, I feel like it’s unfair to claim that christians don’t do anything for society at large. At least from my european perspective.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Born in South Africa. Grand Father was a Pastor. He put sandwiches on top of the rubbish bins so homeless wouldnt have to search bins for food. (Went back there as an adult. So many things to say there)
Early teens in UAE. Had Muslim neighbours. Nicest family Ive met. Didnt push thier beliefs on anyone.
Australia. Mid teens to adult+. Got diss-illusioned with the church. Pastor made jokes about rhe old building. Had a notebook to take notes on what he said each week. Realised he duplicated some sermons.
I am fully open to believe it was my late teens - ealry adulthood that opened my eyes to the real world, or irs the churches fault for not sheltering me enough to convinee me that christianty is the way forward.
I already said the pastor had neighbours sleeping in the yard, but at the same time, they were trying to convice us teens to go overseas ro recruit new christians there. If you can afford plane tickets over seas, you can afford a blanket and some hot food for people in your home town.
Again, theres over 7 billion people on this planet. Maybe im just unlucky, got the short straw, and saw the worst of christianity, but im probably not going back.
Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
Sorry for the autism :)
Why is the bottom right picture done like that, it looks like these feminists just want to be more like men.
Why am I saying this? Because that position of the arm is there to show a bulging contracted bicep. Women have a lot less muscle there, so it doesn’t make sense.
Wouldn’t feminism be better when striving for things that women are naturally better at than men.
We don’t need to do the same stuff, everyone can do what they want.
But don’t make a fish climb a tree. Everyone should cultivate their own strengths and learn their own weaknesses.
And for women, being physically strong will usually be less attainable. Obviously there are exceptions. When I was 65 kg I could deadlift 140 kg, so a lot of muscle isn’t actually needed for strength, but still you get what I’m saying.
This type of stuff, as I was growing up, made me actually believe men and women were the same.
After years of talking extensively to men and women, I can assure you that’s not the case.
There should be no stereotyping, but we are indeed different and do not need to be the same.
/End autistic rant
KingOfSuede@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
If you’d like a bit of a read, the character portrayed there is named Rosie the Riveter.
It’s definitely a wartime relic, but the history and meaning behind it are very interesting!
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 hours ago
I forgive you your autism lol, I was raised very similarly especially because I had three sporty sisters (much sportier than I was).
Everyone should cultivate their own strengths and learn their own weaknesses.
That’s what happens if you remove sex barriers for activities. For instance, most people could not be firefighters regardless of their sex or hormonal makeup. In fact most men do not have what it takes to be a firefighter. But some women do, and more importantly they have the drive and motivation to become good at it.
I’m not even saying there are the same amount of qualified candidates between men and women, but there are enough in both groups that it makes sense not to limit applications along lines of sex or gender.
Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
Of course it shouldn’t be limited. Sometimes it feels like they are shoving women in the direction of being more like men. Which I find unnecessary.
Just let people be who they are
It sometimes feels fabricated
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
There should be no stereotyping, but we are indeed different and do not need to be the same.
thank you very much. that is called common sense, not autism. we can celebrate our differences as well as our similarities.
inlandempire@jlai.lu 1 day ago
American war propaganda poster for illustrating feminism, that’s certainly a choice
ch00f@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah and “we can do it,” until the men come back home and take the jobs back.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Reminds me a of a joke “Why do people in North Dakota spend so much time at the bar?
Because Colonel Custer told them to hang out there until he got back.”
rabber@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
How many men died over there though. Those jobs were /became vacant
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I dont get it, which minority am I supposed to blame for all my problems now?
Carrot@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Billionaires
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
the assholes
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Unfortunately, they are no longer a minority.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The 1%
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Terrible implementation of a decent idea, try again
frezik@midwest.social 1 day ago
Prefer the Norman Rockwell version of Rosie the Rivitor:
www.nrm.org/rosie-the-riveter/
The Norman Rockwell Museum are cowards. The photo crops out the bottom, where she’s using Mein Kampf as a footstool.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
That is cowardly, that’s one of the few things its good for. Maybe fixing a wobbly table leg, and when you’re out of toilet paper.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m not sure I’d use Bill Nye as the example of the asshole atheist, unless that’s the joke. Maybe Christopher Hitchens.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 1 day ago
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The downvotes for this are wild lmao
Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
That’s right, extremism breeds assholes.
aviationeast@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Need an asshole, hyrulian fortune teller…
Godnroc@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Represent those you want to support with the best examples and those you want to oppose with the worst examples. Ignore that every group is made of people and people come in many distinct, unique varieties because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 5 minutes ago
Is that Elon