First rule of smart TVs: if you really have to buy a smart TV, then never connect it to the internet!
Anon buys a TV without researching
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ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
I lobotomized our TV after making the mistake of connecting it to the internet when we first got it.
The ads slowed down the menu to switch sources so much it actually angered me. No more internet for you, you get to be a dumb tv forever now.
Zacryon@feddit.org 14 hours ago
I’ve read at some other post that some smart TVs won’t work at all if you don’t connect it to the internet.
Read with caution, I haven’t verified this.
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Back to the store it goes then
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
I’ve also heard people say that they’ll connect to any open wifi networks. People make up a lot of stuff. Just don’t tell your display device how to send any 1s or 0s to any server outside your home, and you’ll be fine
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Indeed, I remember people complaining about Roku for that.
My TLC hasn’t done so up until now.
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Like those single player games…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Oops, stepped on another $1200 landmine did you? Should have researched where you put your foot. Everyone knows this neighborhood is littered with landmines. No, there’s nothing we can really do about it except hand out these exhaustive charts and navigation tools. Of course they need to constantly get re-updated and are themselves periodically hijacked by the pro-landmine industry to turn into a second-tier grift. But that just means you have to research who you research for your TV research.
Don’t worry, you’ll get it eventually. God gave us two legs for a reason.
Hackworth@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Four legs good, two legs BETTER!
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
No way, tell me that isnt real. I remember hearing a patent about being able to deliver ads over hdmi but dont tell me it actually got implemented.
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Thats not over HDMI. Its a smart TV it does it on its own.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Just dont give the thing internet access then…
wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Which then travels… over HDMI. I realize that’s not what you meant but technically…
arin@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
That’s the same thing to normal people. Technically it doesn’t matter which source you are on and you’ll still get the ad.
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Why would this need “deliver ads over HDMI”. It’s on the telly, ie the HDMI signal has already been transmitted and now the TV itself is overlaying web-derived images in one corner, the same way it will overlay the guide or whatever when you open it.
adarza@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
it’s inevitable. corporate greed knows no limit, knows no boundaries.
Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think that’s just the plant blocking part of the TV
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
It’s a plant blocking the TV. If this is edited it is actually done really well.
kabi@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I’m not sure the picture is edited, but in either case, it would be a lot easier to paste it onto a screencap of the game and open that full screen on the tv…
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I totally believe this kind of thing could happens, but I’d expect broader outrage if it were.
When I set up my LG tv it wanted to show promoted content on the Home Screen and the screensaver.
I never connect my TV to the internet. People jerk saying they add wireless modems to them but in reality they don’t have to, most prime leave all the telemetry and “AI” features enabled.
kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Look up Amazon’s “Sidewalk” network. They don’t need your internet.
Goblussy@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Lmao you can tell no one on lemmy is a baseball fan. This is a meme making fun of the most recent World Series coverage where for the first time they started showing this dumb “Shohei Ohtani is up to bat in X batters” graphic as you see there
Fizz@lemmy.nz 20 hours ago
American sports ads are wild. They will never cease to shock me.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I just bought this dumb tv. Couldn’t be happier.
www.amazon.com/dp/B01CJV6722?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_f…
It’s not a good tv, but it’s the biggest one I could fit on my desk and it has absolutely no “smart” features.
hardaysknight@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Just don’t connect smart TVs to the internet. That’s all you have to (not) do
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Too much of a gamble. What if someone already did once and it uses the cached ads? What if they have some preloaded?
Better financially support products that never have ads and that way demonstrate demand.
TomAwsm@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
From what I have heard, this is not true for all brands. Some won’t work without being connected. Shouldn’t be legal, but here we are.
slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Instead of buying a TV, look for a digital signage display. It’s a TV, but with none of the “smart” crap on it.
Alternatively, just don’t hook your device up to the internet.
renzev@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV’s (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn’t involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.
grue@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In other words, you wish we lived in a democracy instead of a plutocracy. 'Cause that’s exactly how it’s supposed to work. This thread is squarely about the FTC failing to do its goddamn job, because this should not be legal.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We can you idiots just keep voting Republican
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 day ago
Just look at the printer situation. It’s gonna get worse. Much worse.
MadBob@feddit.nl 1 day ago
We do have that in other countries (so in this world), and you’re going to laugh, but the Dutch one is literally called the Consumentenbond.
shasta@lemm.ee 1 day ago
They cost like 5x more because they’re marketed toward businesses. samsung.com/…/65-bht-series-qled-4k-uhd-hdr-pro-t…
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
They are also capable of running 24/7 without ever overheating, no matter the location. And have extra software specialized for signage.
It isn’t just a marketing gimmick.
ikidd@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours ago
My understanding is that TV prices are subsidized by bloatware. No bloatware, no subsidy.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Plus side there though… Like most devices marketed towards enterprise, once they hit the used market, the price drops dramatically. You can get a pretty good deal on a used one.
notthebees@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
There’s other business oriented tvs that aren’t just for signage. It’s more for conference rooms.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 20 hours ago
Or just don’t buy Samsung. Never had this kind of trouble with any other brand except Samsung. Because of this, I’ll never ever buy another Samsung product.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The smart stuff isn’t the issue. It is all the connected shit.
There are plenty of smart TVs that you just don’t have to connect to the internet. Then it can’t download ads, be laggy or reboot because of updates, send all your data to the manufacturer, …
Just connect a small PC over HDMI like you would a dumb TV, and other than the slow boot it will work the same.
I can recommend TLC as a TV that doesn’t require an internet connection. But I would steer clear of ever connecting it to a network, the remotes have microphones in them.
lud@lemm.ee 1 day ago
My Samsung tv also has microphones for voice control.
merc@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
There are plenty of smart TVs that you just don’t have to connect to the internet
AFAIK many of them will continue to nag you to connect them to the Internet if you don’t do it. Those nags can be just as bad as ads.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Take a crayon, jam it in the pinhole for the mic, then scrape the excess off the surface. Problem solved.
mlg@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Looked at the CES reveals and aside from some minor improvements, its nothing but overloaded AI crap.
Even on TVs from 10 years ago, the first thing you had to do was turn off the stupid auto frame generation, smoothing, lighting, and other effects so you can actually enjoy your content in original detail and correct FPS.
Cataphract@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
It took me way too long to figure out what was going on with those settings. One of my relatives tv’s was like this back in the day and at first I thought it was just their “HD” setup which made me completely write off getting anything HD because of the fake look like a soap opera. It wasn’t till I was gifted a blue-ray player that I realized their tv just had horrible “enchancement” shit.
relic_@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Feel like I’m the only one that likes the soap opera effect to some extent 🙈
Belgdore@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
It’s fine for tv, but it causes input delay for video games.
Dasus@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Well yeah, minor improvements really stack up.
A friend is buying a TV or a screen for console gaming anyway and man, the TV’s are actually pretty decent for gaming nowadays. I haven’t checked out any for several years.
I bought a UHD LED tv in like 2016 and what a POS it is compared to these modern models. I mean I haven’t had it for years gave it to my sister but still.
I thought they looked pretty damn nifty. And AI isn’t a curse word when it comes to everything. I get being annoyed at the marketing, I am too, but, like isn’t Nvidia DLSS AI? That’s shit’s actually good.
autriyo@feddit.org 14 hours ago
DLLS and similars are nice for running newer games on outdated hardware.
Sadly it also enables studios to cheap out on optimization, you shouldn’t need upscaling for 1080p medium on a new GPU.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Anybody else have a weird level of fixation on the baseball player and the game character being in the same pose? Like, “maybe it’s watching” kind of fixation?
Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
I’d like to be exactly this high, please
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 day ago
Not as bad as this, but when I moved to a new town I got a free big TV with my new ISP. I was going with that ISP anyways so a free 4k HDR TV on top was a nice bonus.
I wish I had gotten some other bonus. Viewing angle is atrocious and it is impossible to get rid of the input lag (no there isn’t a gaming mode or similar) so no games with precise timing can be played.
So now we have a big living room TV that is too good to replace with something better but bad enough to be a little bit annoying.
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It really doesn’t sound too good to replace? It sounds like you got free junk, and haven’t actually bought a TV yet?
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 day ago
Don’t have the budget anyways. And it’s good enough for the wife and kids, they don’t see any issues. And by now I’m disabled and can’t get into living room anyways.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Give it to your parents or some other older people who would use it just as a TV and buy yourself a decent TV.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I usually just assume that free shit given away as part of some other sale is going to be bad or shit quality. They probably bought a big batch of them for real cheap because they weren’t selling so great in stores and eventually someone decided to just get rid of that inventory maybe at a loss.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 day ago
Trade in for something slightly “worse” then?
weker01@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Why not sell it?
synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My current TV has started to die. It’s developing a purple spot that starts to be very distracting. I am not excited about researching a new model that doesn’t pull out this kind a shit on me. I don’t intend to ever connect it to the Internet. My current TV is nothing more than a big display for my NVIDIA shield TV and the next one will be the same.
theangryseal@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Sceptre makes a decent dumb tv.
I have one. I like it. 4k. Good enough for me.
zod000@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
I got their 1080p 43" “dumb” model for $150 not too long ago. I wouldn’t choose it for my main living room TV, but it is perfectly fine for what I needed it for and they can’t retroactively make it worse like the Roku tv it replaced.
eluvatar@programming.dev 1 day ago
This is where I would go to research a new tv www.rtings.com
qx128@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Check out “commercial” TVs. These are TVs for businesses (e.g. displaying a menu at a restaurant). They typically don’t have the “smart” features. You have to look for them specifically.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 18 hours ago
No, they are NOT tvs! The difference is that the display panels are to slow for fast action scenes or any kind of scene switch, that’s why they only show a set of static images on rotation.
Master@lemm.ee 23 hours ago
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The Nvidia shield ships with the exact same OS as many of these smart TVs
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Doesn’t the Shield use Google Android? That box is also spying on you.
Rubanski@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Verification can when?
twinnie@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
I can’t believe this is real. I’ve just bought a relatively cheap Samsung smart TV and it’s got nothing close to this. I would hardly even say it’s got adverts since it’s mostly just recommendations from my apps in the same way they all do now, I don’t think I’ve actually seen it try to sell me anything or get me to watch something that wasn’t free.
Who the fuck would buy a TV like this? If a company was going to introduce on-screen ads like this they’d start really small.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Who the fuck would buy a TV like this?
mindless consumers
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Gaming on a TV? Wouldn’t like that low refresh rate personally
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Its not 1987 anymore.
Zink@programming.dev 12 hours ago
I’ve seen LG getting trashed alongside the other offenders in the industry in smart TV discussions. I have an LG CX65 OLED from 2020, and I’ve always seen the onboard WebOS as pretty serviceable. Have they gotten a lot worse in the last few years? And/or does it vary by product price?
There are definitely some advertising options to turn off in the menus, and with all that taken care of the only UI I use is a row of app icons that pops up. No ads anywhere, and I don’t seem to be logged into the TV with any kind of account. (Though typing this reminded me that the cheap LG LCD in my son’s room does want a login in order to update firmware)
Note I said it was serviceable, not great. The UI could be more responsive on better hardware, but it’s also convenient for my family to just be able to use the Wiimote-like motion pointer built into the remote.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
So smart TVs are now smartass TVs?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
What? They’re all the same bad or will get bad in the foreseeable future. Only thing that matters is the screen technology and the specs of your external media center.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I needed a second t.v for the basement and i decided to just not buy one.
I had an old mini projector I repurposed and there a nice tv upstairs/phones for anything else.
Cant wait till “minimal” stuff becomes the trend.
FolknForage@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
Ads and bloat are the main reason I still use my 1080p Bravia from 15 yrs ago, which btw still looks great.
Well, that and that I have better uses for 1k usd
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 23 hours ago
computer monitor + sound bar?
debil@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Still, Dark Souls the best.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
If that’s real, then it’s full refund or terrorism upon both the vendor and manufacturer.
Rin@lemm.ee 1 hour ago
orand