Its all fun and games until the Canadians show up.
The torque better not be too strong with this one
Submitted 5 months ago by MacNCheezus@lemmy.today to [deleted]
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gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 months ago
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 months ago
As an American, we made a mistake in not adopting those. Torx or whatever isn’t even as good.
Hubi@feddit.org 5 months ago
Torx is better than whatever this Canadian abomination is. You’d only put pressure on the corners in a realistic setting. These would get rounded so fast unless they are massive, like on some differentials or gearbox oil drains.
tdawg@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oh okay. So just like with everything else we’ve failed to do
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 months ago
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
I’ve stripped more internal hex than all other types combined
Cheems@lemmy.world 5 months ago
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Yeah boi
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Disappointed that the first comment isn’t, “May the Torx be with you”
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 months ago
That may have been the actual post title I was looking for.
hemmes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
These aren’t the post titles you’re looking… 👋
dalekcaan@lemm.ee 5 months ago
DonGirses@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thought it was gonna be the Phillip’s head strip
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
_thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Can’t get more spacey screws than those. They basically look like galaxies
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
That’s because they were worried someone would have taken them off.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Turns out the laws of physics and geometry are the same everywhere.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Even in fictional universes that have wizards in space with swords made of light?
DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes!
Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Then why would they end up with philips instead of torx?
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They get sick pleasure from inflicting stupid fastener design on their users?
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Can we all agree that flathead should be outlawed and Phillips needs to get phased out with a quickness
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Officially, “flathead” refers to countersunk screws. Slotted screws are terrible for my purposes, but they actually do have 1 advantage. If they get mud or something caked up in the slot it’s relatively easy to use a knife or some other pointy thing to clean it out. Guns and other things used in dirty environments often use slotted fasteners for that reason.
LouNeko@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah it also really difficult to strip a Flathead slot.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Right, field maintenance, especially when you don’t have access to tools is a bit of an exception. Personally I think using take down pins for guns is the way to go for field maintenance anyway.
WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I don’t get the problem with flathead, for household applications it seems the most superior because I can use literally anything in my house to drive the screw (butter knife, credit card, a housekey)
plus almost every size of flathead screwdriver can fit in almost every size of flathead screw.
fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
You can use everything, but everything works badly. Even a fitting screwdriver will just randomly jump out after half a turn and scratch whatever you’re working on.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
No offense, but you haven’t unscrewed/screwed enough flathead screws if you don’t see why they’re worse in every way. The criteria for a good screw isn’t that you don’t have to have the correct tool. The bits are $0.99!
I unscrew a single screw and whether it’s a light switch or an electronic device, I’m already annoyed. Even if you use a flathead that fits perfectly, it will un-center and slip out, whether you use a hand bit/screw driver or a drill.
tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Wait what should the standard be?
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Square (Robertson) and/or torx depending on application. Square should be for everyday things and torx should be for anything mechanical, yes I know there is a big gray area in the middle there, but flat head, phillips, and hex need to go.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Torx for anything that needs to be torqued or used with power tools, Robertson (square) for anything intended to be used with hand tools or more finer work (a screwdriver)
Etterra@discuss.online 5 months ago
Hey, if it works it works.
fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
It works, but badly. All my homies hate cam-out and love torx.
Madison420@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It works great for it’s intended purpose which is torque limiting.
kamen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 months ago
That’s the joke
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Um, actually, those are rigid kal’dron adjustment pins used to correct focus crystal orientation.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Somehow, Phillips head survived.
TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 5 months ago
Preventing cam-out with a Phillips screw is like learning the ways of the Force. It takes patience and skill, something the Empire’s rigid Torx would never understand.
dan@upvote.au 5 months ago
You’d think that they would have switched to Pozidriv.
mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Why? Torx is better in every way. If you are going to change, why half ass it to Phillips 2.0
dan@upvote.au 5 months ago
You’re right - Torx is definitely a better option. I just mentioned Pozidriv because people seem to love Phillips head so much for whatever reason, so Pozidriv seems like a logical increment from there.
danekrae@lemmy.world 5 months ago
TIL
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
No wonder the Jedi failed.
HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Bet it’s an inch screw too
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Oh man, this is 100% real. Disney is such garbage…
Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Meh, it’s one of those things that’s going to be around forever. I would be absolutely unsurprised if crosshead screws were still a thing in 4800 ce.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You’re building a light saber.
Do you:
A. Weld everything
Or
B. Drill holes and thread the holes for a bolt
I’m sure they have some kind of crazy riveting technology. Is she installing screws because she wants to be able to easily take apart her lightsaber if needed?
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Or perhaps the Jedi are also just cooking with water.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Where do you think we got it from?
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 months ago
May the Philips be with you.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Obligatory Babylon 5 Swedish meatballs
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It is a curious fact, and one to which no one knows quite how much importance to attach, that something like 85% of all known worlds in the Galaxy, be they primitive or highly advanced, have invented a drink called jynnan tonnyx, or gee-N’N-T’N-ix, or jinond-o-nicks, or any one of a thousand or more variations on the same phonetic theme. The drinks themselves are not the same, and vary between the Sivolvian ‘chinanto/mnigs’ which is ordinary water served at slightly above room temperature, and the Gagrakackan ‘tzjin-anthony-ks’ which kill cows at a hundred paces; and in fact the one common factor between all of them, beyond the fact that the names sound the same, is that they were all invented and named before the worlds concerned made contact with any other worlds. What can be made of this fact? It exists in total isolation. As far as any theory of structural linguistics is concerned it is right off the graph, and yet it persists. Old structural linguists get very angry when young structural linguists go on about it. Young structural linguists get deeply excited about it and stay up late at night convinced that they are very close to something of profound importance, and end up becoming old structural linguists before their time, getting very angry with the young ones. Structural linguistics is a bitterly divided and unhappy discipline, and a large number of its practitioners spend too many nights drowning their problems in Ouisghian Zodahs.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 months ago
That reads like it’s straight out of one of the Hitchhikers books
MrNesser@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Huh always thought that was a self sealing stem bolt
DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 months ago
Wrong universe
MrNesser@lemmy.world 5 months ago
See that whooshing over your head its the Clear Air Turbulence.
FringeTheory999@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Why wouldn’t they? It’s an efficient design, and aside from the whole force thing they seem to be working with the same physics that we are. Why wouldn’t they invent philips head screws?
someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
They strip like a mf.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine - it’s designed purely for automation. That’s why it’s tapered, to allow power tools to slip out before they break. That’s good for automation in the 30s, not so good for hand tools or any modern tool with a torque limiter.
You’re much better off with hex or torx, or even the square driver, which is much more tolerant of imperfect handheld tool usage.
The only reason phillips is still used is because it’s ubiquitous, it’s very much a historical oddity. It’s okay for many tasks but unfortunately the slipping out behaviour destroys the screws after a while.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
A good balled hex driver is such a joy to use. Somewhat align it with the screw, and you can use it at weird angle.
felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
If you have ever used torx once in your life you can’t say that Philip is great anymore.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Because it’s a fucking stupid design! Fuck Phillips, long live Robertson!
mathematicalMagpie@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Could be JIS.
Jojowski@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Thank you!
Supervisor194@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I thought it was going to say “IG-88 was a dildo.”
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 months ago
RBWells@lemmy.world 5 months ago
If it ain’t broke…
abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 months ago
A 500+ million dollar budget and you can’t even take a proper picture.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What’s wrong with the picture?
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I thought we got over Bricks and Screws years ago
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 months ago
I feel like a + shaped screw head would be as standard as a pyramid if multiple civilizations had developed screws independently.
Botzo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There are at least 3 standards for the + shape already. Phillips, Pozidrive, and Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS). They do not play well together.
insert obligatory xkcd standards reference
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 months ago
Don’t forget Frearson/Reed & Prince!
But wait, there’s more!
And even more!
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
JIS has been obsoleted and replaced in Japanese products with the ISO Phillips bit shape. It still exists on lots of products pre 2000 though.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
This bugs me so much more than it should. Why do we have three different standards for + shaped screws? You know what doesn’t have this problem? Flatheads. There’s exactly one way to make a flathead screwdriver, and I won’t be looking it up to make sure I’m right
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I think a single slotted screw head would be more universal and easy. You just cut one line into the top of the screw head and your ready to go. A Philips head would need to be cut twice and once you did, you’ve weakened the head one degree more by removing more material
SirSamuel@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You clearly haven’t had to screw a flathead screw.
Anyone that’s dicked around with those little bastards starts hating life after about thirty seconds. A fastener I can screw in a without having to be perfectly in line with the shaft? Yes please! I don’t care if it’s a shitty Phillips screw, sign me up. I’d even take those goofy square Canadian screws. Hell, anything is better than flathead.
I challenge you to find a screw worse to use than a flathead screw.
Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ohhh no… As a person who regularly builds random shit for film and television, the single slotted screw is the bane of my bloody existence. Some designers fucking love em for the aesthetic but the cam outs on them are terrible. Is it technically easier to produce? Yes, is it viable to use for construction purposes comparitively - fuck no. Every time you cam out ( lose traction on the screw) you risk accidentally damaging whatever medium you are screwing into.
Locally there is an insane institutional preference for the Robertson screw (which is basically a square) because it doesn’t cam out much, drives in well and arguably resists stripping better than a Phillips… This is believed in so much that any screw not seen by the camera is a Robby (usually size 2) while anything that is perceived by the audience is a phillips or a single slot screw. Given a choice nobody wants to handle single slots and chances are good you only find them in period specific builds or when the designer is a psychopath.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Slotted screws are the proof that Satan is real.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Absolutely the only benefit to slot headed screws is how easy they are to make, which is why they’re what a home machinist would make when creating his own fasteners, and why any aliens out there that use threaded fasteners have probably also tried and learned to hate them.
Most other shapes of driver aren’t cut, they’re stamped.
stoy@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I have never seen a crosshead screw cut out to the edges…