updoots encourages circlejerk
I mean, making a post about hating on Reddit, on Lemmy, is pretty circlejerky too at this point.
Anon doesn't like reddit
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thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Senseless@feddit.org 2 months ago
true.
anyway, fuck spez.
rain_worl@lemmy.world 1 month ago
70 >:)
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I mean, making a post about hating on Reddit, on Lemmy, is pretty circlejerky too at this point.
There’s a key difference, at least when it comes to hating Reddit.
Most [all?] users here have actual, informed reasons to hate Reddit, from past experiences with the site. They aren’t simply joining some bandwagon due to social expectations to bend to the crowd.
leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
It’s already dead. r/wholesomememes decided to allow only original content (no bots or reposts), and, after two days the only post was one begging human users to post anything original.
There are no users left. It’s bots all the way through, like worms in a rotting corpse.
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
holy fuck, i didnt know it was quite that bad
KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Except… it looks like people did start posting. So the users were crowded out by bots before and they’re posting now. That just shows that Reddit isn’t dead, but it does have too many bots.
I mean, I’m sure many people here wish there was more non-bot content. It’s annoying to see something on Reddit and come back here and see the same thing.
RangerJosie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Saw a stat the other day, and I can’t speak to accuracy. But the claim was that like 58% I think of all content online is bots.
Buttflapper@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s already dead. r/wholesomememes decided to allow only original content (no bots or reposts), and, after two days the only post was one begging human users to post anything original.
Asking people to post on their sub is fuckin hilarious to me. Like that’s some major, pressing issue in anyone’s life.
*“Sorry, I can’t hang out today. Wholesome Memes subreddit needs me to post there! I’m doing it for the shareholders! Without them, reddit would never survive!” *
Like… Is this how he expected that to go…???
scbasteve7@lemm.ee 2 months ago
If you read it, the mod certainly didn’t beg. They just mentioned that they’re still blocking bots and to not be discouraged from posting original content.
Also I find it highly doubtful that the mods of that subreddit are concerned about shareholders. Why would a mod care about money when they’re not even getting paid? They most likely just care about keeping the community alive.
Not to take away the point. Which I think is something most Lemmy users have realized ages ago, reddit is so full of repost bots that it makes gallowboob look like a saint. So much in fact that after two days, not a single original post has occurred in a subreddit with a reported 17 million followers.
houstoneulers@lemmy.world 2 months ago
17m members and only 2 posts in the last 24 hours as of right now lol
leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
It’s tragic, really. Reddit used to be great. Enshittification sucks.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’d argue discord is even worse.
general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Id say discord is a good place for already enstablished friend groups to hang out
Eiri@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It’s an excellent chat program (except it’s pretty buggy on mobile). But it doesn’t function well as a forum replacement. The lack of discoverability is a big problem.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah… shooting some nonsense back and forth. But game devs that shoehorn stuff into discord making everything objectively worse while making everything unfindable… it drives me nuts!
Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 months ago
username checks out
Disaster@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
discord requires a phone number to create an account. hard pass.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Oh definitely. At least Reddit can be searched (let’s see for how long though)
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s an adult themed subreddit. You’ll need to sign in on the app thanks!
InnerScientist@lemmy.world 2 months ago
At least Reddit can be searched by google^1,2,3^
1 terms and conditions do apply
2 you need an account for some subreddits
3 you also need the app for some subredditsorcrist@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That’s not exactly true anymore. Reddit has deindexed itself.
avieshek@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Most toxic moderators of large subreddits does come from discord.
expr@programming.dev 2 months ago
It’s a toss up, for me. Both managed to capture all discussion on major open source projects.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, I feel dirty for even saying this…
Reddit allows site wide search, and recently contracted with Google to make their content accessible. Also old reddit content is searchable and thread based conversations can be followed.
Discord is just a vast collection of independent black holes that gobble up information and data while its users collectively yell into the void of chat channels.
orcrist@lemm.ee 2 months ago
If you’re looking for a discussion board and end up in a chat room, of course you’ll be disappointed. That one’s on the user, not the service.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, it’s just that devs of games guide everyone there and try and shoehorn it in. I don’t know how or why devs do this… just run your own forum with a chat module.
henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 months ago
It dies every time someone stops using it.
Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The bots will continue to churn like npcs in an abandoned mmo.
NegativeInf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Disenchantment is the little death.
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I thought fear was the little death???
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Why is lemmy obsessed with talking about its ex
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
- Goes to Google and types in a search
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Reddit
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Reddit
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Forum post that links back to Reddit
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YouTube that’s just a bunch of screenshots of Reddit over an automated voice
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Reddit again
Why won’t my ex leave me the fuck alone?
atocci@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reddit actually solved that problem for me by blocking themselves from appearing in Bing search results.
Buttflapper@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Goes to Google and types in a search
Reddit Reddit Forum post that links back to Reddit YouTube that’s just a bunch of screenshots of Reddit over an automated voice Reddit again
Why won’t my ex leave me the fuck alone?
Oh boy… Just wait until they go full into Gemini. They’re starting to use Gemini and AI in general for search capabilities.
scbasteve7@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Yeah, I’ve long since stopped using Google. Theres not any search engines I’ve found that mimic Google in its height, but many of them are better than what Google is now. Even bing.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
She did me dirty bro she deserves it
PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s just the way it is.
When Reddit was new, it mentioned Digg a lot.
When Digg was new, it mentioned /. a lot.
When /. was new (yes, I was there, too), it mentioned Usenet a lot.At some points in time, the likes of The WELL, the Facepunch forums and Metafilter got their own mentions, prompting me to check them out.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No Fark? No Plastic.com?
MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Agreed. Lemmy has its own issues .
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, at the core, people cause problems when the group gets too big to be a tight knit one. There are also a not insignificant amount of people, who get together, with antisocial behavior in mind. When you have thousands of people, posting on some community forum, it will be impossible for it not have some serious underlying issues. Not to even think of the scale of places like reddit, where that forum could have millions of users.
Back in the day, when IRC ruled the social scene of the internet, it was hard to control a channel that had 100+ people on it, forget about crowds orders of magnitude larger.
drathvedro@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Whenever I stumble on reddit I make sure to post disinformation or some kind of dumb shit to throw a wrench into the LLM training data they sell to google.
Comment105@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I have literally over a hundred permabanned accounts on that site.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That’s impressive, I think I’ve got half a dozen.
answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I just got another one today for “harassment” of zionism in r/worldnews. Reddit cannot hold a free discussion and they know it. They can’t even let you speak to expose their bullshit, and permaban you when you do.
I can you show you the comment which got me banned. I was literally asking questions which they know the answer for but censor intentionally because they are bought and controlled by awful groups directly linked to the IDF themselves. They have a division who train and employe teens as stupid Hasbara trolls who don’t know history and unable to hold a discussion.
NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 months ago
Make sure to have some LLM generate the comment for you, as LLMs learning synthetic data may fuck them up over time: AI models fed AI-generated data quickly spew nonsense
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I hate to ruin this for you, but if you post nonsense, it will get downvoted by humans and excluded from any data set (or included as examples of what to avoid). If it’s not nonsensical enough to be upvoted, it will not realistically poison any data and perhaps even be good for it.
Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 months ago
this is an ancient and noble practice known as shitposting, no need to call it something else :)
Antiproton@programming.dev 2 months ago
“ruins the Internet”? This coming from 4chan? That’s rich
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
4chan, in part, ruined real life. So much of the initial meme buzz around Trump came directly from 4chan - god emperor, etc. /b/ and /pol/ had large coordinated campaigns to boost Trump for lulz and to fuck with people. These made the news occasionally and were sometimes quite wide-reaching.
Additionally, 4chan is responsible for a massive swathe of meme culture more broadly. Most people don’t dredge its depths or even know “the hacker named 4chan” exists, but it has been a massively influential force.
orcrist@lemm.ee 2 months ago
There have been dark corners of the internet for several decades now. 4chan is just one. Trump didn’t achieve popularity because of it. There aren’t enough users, and there certainly aren’t enough politically and economically influential users, for that to be true.
Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 months ago
imo redditors and 4channers think too highly of themselves if they believe they have real influence on elections. Most people aren’t online, and politics are much more readily explained by material causes such as the Dems fcking up the post 2008 economic recovery and going for austerity instead of investment. The biggest proximate cause (non-material/economic) cause is just that hilldawg ran a bad campaign that didn’t focus enough on swing states (but she won the popular vote, congratulations).
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 months ago
4chan is kinda the sump of the Internet. All the crud sinks there.
slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 2 months ago
Shit usually floats.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
4chan doesn’t nearly have the kind of traffic to ever have ruined the internet.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
It used to. Used to be the #1 most visited website worldwide for many years.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Reddit doesn’t even like Reddit.
slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 2 months ago
It’s like a teenager.
duckduckohno@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So many on Reddit bitch and moan about reddit. Just delete your account and use alternatives if you hate it so much.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 months ago
I was one of those. Before Lemmy, nothing was truly an alternative for Reddit. There were alternative Twitter-like sites up the ass; but nothing similar to Reddit’s layout.
Laborer3652@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Thats… why I’m here.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Forgot
- APIcalypse
- sold user content to AI
- let’s only Google index.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
• A website built by unpaid users and mods that Reddit wants to profit off of.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Restricting search results to reddit is a nice way to filter out corporate junk and just get honest end user opinion on things. As much as I hate the management of the platform now, you have to remember that Reddit didn’t always used to be shit. Aaron Swartz was a co-founder.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Aaron Swartz was a co-founder.
Swartz has been six feet under for longer than some Lemmyites have been alive.
Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 months ago
It is rapidly becoming an unviable way to find info these days. I have to specifically ignore anything from the past couple years.
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I miss the IMDB discussions under each film…
Was great to finish a film and have a question or and ideas and be able to talk about it.
collapse_already@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I use it less and less. I only really visit two sub reddit, and one of them has been really declining as it has grown.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The hardcore forums survived.
jelloeater85@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s gonna die like Digg or Fark … Which are still around, but shells of their former selves. TBH most normal folks haven’t even heard of Reddit, let alone Lemmy or Mastodon.
nl4real@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve made an active effort to bookmark any active forums I come across. Even Lemmy doesn’t quite fill the niche that actual forums provide, though it is still useful.
RangerJosie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nobody likes reddit. Nobody. Everyone is just stuck with it and spez’s dumbass moneygrubbing bullshit.
PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“Ruins the internet”
I happen to remember the forum culture of the mid-late 2000s. It wasn’t that great.
Stern@lemmy.world 2 months ago
bans controversial subreddits
They are ruining valuable conversation by banning GasTheKikes and Jailbait.
comrade19@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Will the bots be what ends it?
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My account has been banned for like 2 years but I can still watch porn so idc.
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It was dead to me over here until you posted about it. Want a reddit hate circle jerk updoot buddy?
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They will also just casually full bore ban you because you were mass reported.
That’s what someone I talked to theorized happened to me.
I was banned for posting “I think my right to punch Nazis should be protected by law”.
Not kill, murder, maim, I didn’t even name any groups where there was a lick of grey area, Nazis, the one group that since WWII, everyone has agreed are alright as a universal bad guy.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Look, I also left Reddit because it got worse, but this just reads like “I said something racist and people got mad” to me.
deltreed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reddit is garbage because of the mods.
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
I enjoy using Reddit.
PanArab@lemm.ee 2 months ago
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OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
4chan was hating on Reddit before it was cool
Dominic1234321@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reddit is cool?
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Ah, the ol’ lemmy switcheroo!
SeekPie@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I think they meant that hating on reddit is cool.
orcrist@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Maybe they meant before Reddit became cool, which happened before it became much less cool.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah but what good has ever come from 4chan?
Always seemed like a place for people to be subversive and provide a heaven for hate and degeneracy.