Reddfugee42
@Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
- Comment on Anon wastes time 3 days ago:
Finally, something that makes it even harder for them to audit the rich
- Comment on Chemistry is weird 3 days ago:
This is how the Karens and Mommy Blogs sound when they complain about “Mercury in vaccines” but it’s just one mercury atom in a molecule that no longer behaves like elemental mercury
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 days ago:
If all you have is intellectual dishonesty, you’re finally out of ideas and cornered
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 3 days ago:
You keep acting like saying “Elon Musk is a Nazi” is some kind of sacred password that proves moral clarity, when in fact it just shows you’ve got your rhetorical hammer and now everything’s a fascist-shaped nail. I don’t need to prove to you that I see Musk for exactly what he is—he’s a megalomaniacal, racist, transphobic, apartheid-raised billionaire whose social media platform has become a fascist pipeline and who pals around with actual white supremacists. You don’t get points for calling that out. That’s the bare minimum. The difference is I’m not so lost in self-righteousness that I think calling him names solves anything.
You say I’m defending the people who caused your rage. I say I’m trying to contain the blast radius before it consumes the few people actually trying to do something meaningful within a system that is already rigged to serve the wealthy and powerful. You want to burn it all down, fine. But don’t pretend you’re building anything when all you do is torch and sneer. What you call “standards,” the rest of us recognize as reactive nihilism.
You assume I’ll come around later and admit that cozying up to Musk was a mistake. Maybe I will. Maybe it is a mistake. But the difference between us is that I’m not pretending every decision exists in a vacuum. Musk is a threat now. Not talking to him doesn’t erase him. Not trying to neutralize him doesn’t make him go away. If he gets locked out of government entirely and goes full mask-off fascist kingpin online, who does that help? Do you think he’ll disappear because we’re mad enough on Twitter? No—he’ll just consolidate more influence through the very networks progressives get deplatformed from. The idea that his empire will collapse if the Democrats just ignore him is a fantasy. You know how many times people said “this is the moment Musk is finished”? It never is. The man built rockets with public money and used them to troll the president on his own platform. That’s not someone who disappears because you wrote a scathing post on Reddit.
You’re right that we shouldn’t let Dems cozy up to him without consequences. That’s why we raise hell. That’s why I back people like Bowman and Bush even when the party machine tries to ice them out. But your argument isn’t about pressure—it’s about banishment. It’s “if you ever deal with this person, you’re dead to me.” That’s not movement-building, that’s purity cosplay. The right doesn’t fall apart like this. They lock arms and march into the fire. We call everyone who flinches a quisling and then act shocked when progress stalls.
You don’t trust me to oppose fascists because I don’t use your exact tone or terms. But here’s the truth: I’ve been in this fight longer than you know. I’ve canvassed for abortion rights in red states, protested ICE, fundraised for progressive candidates the DNC ghosted. I don’t owe you proof that I give a damn. What I won’t do is turn every Democrat who makes a bad call into a crypto-fascist and every strategic interaction into treason. That’s not vigilance—that’s emotional gratification masquerading as politics.
If all you’ve got left is comment threads, use them to demand better, not to alienate everyone who doesn’t meet your ever-shifting purity line. You’re not powerless because you’re in Texas—you’re acting powerless because you’ve already decided everyone sucks and nothing matters. But if that’s true, why are you even arguing? Either you think people can be pushed or you don’t. And if you don’t, then what the hell are you fighting for?
You think it’s my machine? Fine. Then help break it from the inside. But if you’d rather be the guy heckling from the sidelines because nobody’s pure enough to link arms with, don’t be surprised when the only people left marching are the ones who want to burn the world down for real.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 4 days ago:
You keep mistaking anger for clarity. And I get it—that rage you’re carrying is earned. You’ve been watching a party that claims to fight for working people repeatedly fold in the name of bipartisanship, inaction, and big donor interests. You’ve watched policies you care about gutted, leaders you believe in sidelined, and warmongers handed the keys. You’re right to be pissed. But you’re swinging wildly and hitting everything in sight—including people who aren’t your enemies. You’re doing exactly what you accuse centrist Democrats of doing: handing power to the right by making the left ungovernable.
I’m not defending Musk, and I never have. If I could snap my fingers and vaporize his empire of tech-bro fascism tomorrow, I would. But you don’t get rid of oligarchs like Musk by pretending they don’t exist, or by refusing to engage with the systems they’ve embedded themselves in. You call that “simpering,” but that’s only because you’re desperate for a clean moral fight in a system that was built to prevent one. And your refusal to acknowledge that this is about tactics, not loyalty, is what turns your critique into just another flame war screed.
You claim I have no objection to Democratic sellouts, but I’ve literally listed examples where I agree with you: the public option betrayal, the Manchin theater, the Biden admin’s groveling to Netanyahu, and yes, the DCCC backing centrists over insurgents like Cisneros. Those were all shameful, and I said so. You think I’m blind to this. I’m not. I’m just not ready to throw every Democrat into the same trash fire because they’re not all equally culpable. The same party that primaries progressives is also the only one with members even trying to hold billionaires and the far-right accountable. That contradiction sucks. It also happens to be the battlefield we’re on. You can hate the terrain all you want—it’s still the place the fight is happening.
Your biggest tell, though, is how you keep trying to paint me as someone who wants to appease Nazis. That’s lazy, and you know it. You’re not arguing in good faith if you take someone saying “governments have to deal with the powerful forces that exist” and twist it into “you love Elon.” It’s the kind of kneejerk purity politics that makes the left easy to ignore. Not because it’s wrong in its goals, but because it can’t tell the difference between an enemy, an imperfect ally, and a potential pressure point. When the default setting is “everyone who isn’t radical enough is the same as a Nazi,” the right doesn’t need to destroy the left—the left does it to itself.
You say I should start applying pressure. I am. I back the AOCs and Jayapals. I donate, organize, and raise hell when Biden kisses Netanyahu’s ring or when the DNC backs scumbags like Cuellar. But I also don’t confuse shouting into a comment thread with changing the world. Rage is fuel, not a strategy. And as long as your strategy is just typing “nazi” in all caps at anyone who doesn’t fit your purity checklist, you’re playing right into the hands of the people consolidating actual power.
You want to be part of the fight? Then be part of it. But know the difference between sabotage and dissent. Because right now, you’re throwing stones at the people you’ll need beside you if we ever want to break the machine instead of just rage at it.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 5 days ago:
You’re absolutely right to distrust power. You should be suspicious when politicians start cozying up to billionaires, especially ones like Musk who openly enable fascist rhetoric and build platforms for it. But what you’re doing here isn’t just holding people accountable—you’re flattening nuance and turning every complex strategic move into evidence of moral failure. That’s not political clarity, it’s just a hammer looking for nails.
You say I’m defending collaboration with Nazis. I’m not. I’m describing the reality that when someone like Musk controls huge pieces of national infrastructure—satellites, EV production, social media, and contracts with NASA and the Pentagon—governments can’t just ignore him. That sucks. I wish they could. But calling it collaboration when they try to regulate or rein in his influence is missing the forest for the flamethrower. If Democrats had any real power to dismantle Musk’s influence tomorrow, I’d be cheering. But you don’t dismantle entrenched oligarchic power by refusing to engage with it at all. That’s not moral courage, that’s political impotence dressed up as righteousness.
You’re also setting up this neat little trap where no matter what Democrats do, they’re evil. If they talk to Musk, they’re “quislings.” If they don’t and he continues to spread fascism unchecked, you’ll say they failed to do anything. If they compromise on a bill, they’re sellouts. If they refuse to compromise and the GOP steamrolls them, you’ll call them ineffective. There’s no outcome where you’d say, “Yeah, that was principled and strategic.” That tells me this isn’t really about policy, it’s about purity. And I get it—being betrayed over and over makes you stop believing in any middle ground. But writing off every engagement as proof of corruption is a recipe for endless cynicism and zero progress.
And by the way, I didn’t say I “trust” establishment Democrats. I said they’re navigating a system where guys like Musk have been allowed to accumulate dangerous levels of influence. I don’t trust them to resist selling out unless they’re pushed—hard—by people who don’t buy into the “let’s all be polite and civil” nonsense. We need pressure. We need protest. But we also need clarity about what we’re actually fighting, and it isn’t that Bob Garcia said a few sentences to Elon Musk while also calling him a right-wing extremist.
You’re swinging wildly at everything that moves, and in doing so, you’re weakening your own point. Rage is justified, but if you want to build something better, you’ve got to aim it precisely. Otherwise, you’re just another person screaming betrayal while the real fascists laugh and consolidate power.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 5 days ago:
Typical brain dead Nazi response
- Comment on First day of fifth grade 5 days ago:
#BONK*!!*
- Comment on First day of fifth grade 6 days ago:
The curved part has infinite angles
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 6 days ago:
It looks like you’re trying to write in your diary, but you accidentally wrote this here in public. Whoopsie!
- Comment on First day of fifth grade 6 days ago:
They should have included something about the count of angles in the name
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 6 days ago:
Ah, so now we’ve arrived at the part of the conversation where you start yelling “quisling” like a drunk history major trying to sound profound in a Reddit flame war. Look, if you’re going to throw around World War II analogies, maybe at least get the dynamics right. No one’s defending collaboration with fascists—we’re pointing out that trying to get a powerful oligarch with control over key infrastructure to behave responsibly is not the same as praising or submitting to him. You can hate someone’s guts and still be forced to deal with them when they’ve wormed their way into controlling satellites, manufacturing, and public discourse. That’s not “toadyism,” that’s a sign of how broken and lopsided the system is.
What’s hilarious is how fast you flipped the script. First, you accuse Democrats of warming to Musk—then when I point out they actually see him as dangerous but are forced to deal with him, you spin that as betrayal anyway. So which is it? Do they love him, or are they spineless for working with someone they distrust? You can’t even hold your own narrative steady for five minutes.
And let’s not pretend you’re some paragon of ideological purity here, lobbing insults from the moral high ground. You’re doing the online version of smashing your toy soldiers together and declaring victory with a word like “quisling” while completely missing the point. No one here worships Elon. I literally said I’d laugh if Tesla crashed and Elon got roasted, and you still managed to accuse me of “defending” him. If you think that’s defending, maybe you need to reset your sarcasm meter—or just your whole personality.
Anyway, go ahead and shout into the void some more. I’m sure the ghosts of the Third Reich are super impressed with your vocabulary.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 6 days ago:
Right after I help him die in a fire and laugh about Tesla crashing.
You’re not very bright are you
- Comment on Leaves have evolved at least twice 🤔 6 days ago:
“How to Jordan Petersen your kid”
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 6 days ago:
That’s pretty ironic, because I’m not a Nazi so that’s why nothing you’re saying makes sense to me
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 6 days ago:
I bet that means something in your head
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 6 days ago:
🤣 you could just say you didn’t have the video of him striking his chest and doing it perfectly straight arm twice in a row.
Thanks for this, I needed a laugh
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 1 week ago:
You’re misreading the article if you think it shows Democrats are “warming” to Elon Musk. No one quoted in the piece says they like him, trust him, or think he’s a decent person. In fact, what it shows is the exact opposite: many Democrats are still deeply skeptical of him and consider his behavior and politics dangerous. What’s happening here isn’t about admiration or trust—it’s about strategy and necessity. They’re engaging with him not because they want to, but because they feel they have to, given his immense influence over major technologies like EVs, space infrastructure, and social media.
Take Rep. Robert Garcia, for example. He doesn’t praise Musk or suggest he’s come around to liking him. He says, “Musk has clearly gone down a right-wing rabbit hole,” and openly criticizes his platforming of extremists. The article quotes him as seeing Musk as someone who “lets people say hateful, violent, racist things.” That doesn’t sound like someone warming to him—that’s someone holding their nose while trying to work with him for practical reasons.
The same goes for the White House. Yes, they’ve met with Musk and engaged him in policy discussions, but that’s because he controls major assets that intersect with government priorities: EV manufacturing, satellite internet, space tech. Musk is essentially a utility at this point—a problematic one, but one that’s too entangled with federal initiatives to ignore. It’s not about warming up to him. It’s about needing him to cooperate because of the role he’s carved out for himself, not because anyone thinks he’s a good actor.
This is politics, not personal affection. Democrats engaging with Musk doesn’t mean they like him—it means they’re being realistic. They’re dealing with a man they see as dangerous and ideologically aligned with Trump, but who unfortunately holds keys to several important doors. The article reflects that tension. If anything, it paints a picture of wariness and pragmatism, not warmth.
Whippersnapper.
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 1 week ago:
Lol okay grandpa. Nobody is fucking “warming to him”
- Comment on Bait or r*ta*d*ti*n. Call it. 1 week ago:
Got a video of that, buddy?
- Comment on want to be a woman 1 week ago:
Talk to more women. I mean, just watch videos where men wear period cramp simulators. Just the tip of the iceberg. It seems to me that basically all of their systems are higher maintenance. Meanwhile men are naturally more muscular, have stronger bones, and don’t really have to worry about shit.
- Comment on (゜O゜; 1 week ago:
I often wonder that about your mom
- Comment on Anon discovers cigarettes 2 weeks ago:
Whatever you have to tell yourself 🤣
- Comment on Anon discovers cigarettes 2 weeks ago:
I’ve never been addicted to anything and the fact that you think addiction is virtuous is really quite pathetic.
- Comment on Anon discovers cigarettes 2 weeks ago:
I hope your dad sees this. You’ll finally have impressed him.
- Comment on Anon discovers cigarettes 2 weeks ago:
Is it like that saying, “If you’re gonna be dumb, ya gotta be tough”?
- Comment on Thames Water fined £122.7m in biggest ever penalty 2 weeks ago:
If rapid emergency nationalism happens that frequently in your nation, that would be a prudent decision. Hopefully it’s not so.
- Comment on Anon discovers cigarettes 2 weeks ago:
Just say “misery loves company”
- Comment on Thames Water fined £122.7m in biggest ever penalty 2 weeks ago:
The great thing about nationalizing something is you can just tell the debt collectors to fuck off.
- Comment on 'The Last of Us' Season 2 Finale Viewership Down 55% From Season 1 2 weeks ago:
The gap was too long. Again and again.
