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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nobody has done more to disprove the “Rich people are smarter than everyone else” idea.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Remember a decade ago when he was being lauded as our time’s Einstein?

    … Hahahahahahaha

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    • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah by his own PR team, mostly, but it was a pretty easy fascade to see through when you actually listened to the man speak. Still don’t forgive Dan Harmon for letting him shit on R&M with the eLoN tUsK bullshit. Or Star Trek Discovery for that matter, which happened much later after he had already shown his true face to the world. I know Harmon got paid because he’s talked about it, but I would really like to know how much he spent on getting a passing reference in the least popular ST show of all time.

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    • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And I am proud to have called bullshit on it from day one.

      Whoever leads us to the promised land isn’t going to have a for profit LLC

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    • Takios@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I still cringe at him being mentioned in Star Trek Discovery…

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    • Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Disco was the worst Trek

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve heard Tony Stark but not Einstein. I’d be insulted for Einstein.

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  • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Literally had someone saying that earlier today. Something along the lines of “you don’t become the richest person in the world without some competency.” Just ignore the fact he started on third base…

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    • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not even. He started on home, he just claimed he ran there and for some reason people believed him even though he still had a bat in his hand.

      Elon has had “Penisdick” written all over him since day one

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean, yeah he had a lot of advantage, but he did have to do something right to become the richest man. But making some good gambles doesn’t make you a good person nor does it mean you’re great at everything.

      Maybe he was good at finding companies at the right time to invest, but that means jack about any economic or political acumen. Same reason why we don’t want businessmen in politics, being good at one thing does not mean you’re good at everything.

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    • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know exactly how much his parents were worth, but his net worth has increased by many thousands of times. That’s not “third base”, saying he got where he is by luck and nepotism is just wilfully ignorant.

      Trump, on the other hand, would have done better if he just left his money in a savings account.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I genuinely think he’s had some sort of cognitive decline.

    He went from being merely wealthy to the richest man in the world, and nearly everyone thinking he’s a genius, to being hated by nearly everyone and losing money fast.

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    • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Think is, he never was a genius - actually quite far off from it

      He is just a spoiled boy having luck with gambling the money he got

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    • HackerJoe@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Looks more like too much Ketamine to me.

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    • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Generally the truly smartest people (the ones who actually figure out spaceflight, electric vehicles, satellite internet) aren’t the wealthiest. Sure many of them end up pretty wealthy due to stock options, high salaries, companies competing for them and the like. But often at the end of the day they just retire into their wealth and spend their days traveling or living in their huge houses or whatever.

      But the CEOs, the politicians, the investors, the self-labelled “Founders,” those approaching or in the 1%; For those it’s not about making something, doing their jobs, changing the world, etc. It’s about winning. They need to feel better than others. And for most of them that feeling never goes away. They rarely retire, and often even when they do they still pull strings from the background (see Bill Gates). Some psychopathic part of their brain makes it so their most important and purest drive is to constantly get to that next target, that next exponential stock valuation, that next acquisition, that next news broadcast they can jerk off to about how they beat someone else in a campaign or about how line go up or whatever.

      So when these people are in the middle of their career, their relatively unnoticeable by most. They’re “founding” companies by employing those smarter than them with money they have. They’re selling said companies, moving on. They’re making shady deals, laundering money, because they are smart enough to beat the system and the system is against them because they’re so smart.

      But for those that amass enough wealth like Elon, the drive never goes away. But what do you do after you’re the richest person in the world? Well, try to become the most powerful person in the world. But you can’t just run for office, the ketamine has told you that it’s faster to latch onto the recent rapid rise in fascism so you join up with Trump. Who gives a shit what kind of person he is, especially because eventually you’ll beat him. He’s a stepping stone for now, a boost pad to get you speaking with those who can get you real power, and more money because it’s never enough.

      But thinking that everything in the world works like a startup, and if you just hire more college grads, crack the whip, take stimulants to stay up to ship the product in a completely inconceivable world (government and social policy) to what you’re used to (technology and product development), it all falls apart. And then when you’ve always had success with the investors siding with you because “line go up,” you suddenly don’t have success because “line don’t go up” in the white house and Trump is getting pressure to find something to cover up giving 2 trillion dollars to the rich and there’s no quick fix.

      So you do more ketamine, lash out. You always knew trump was a pedo, a garbage human, but it didn’t matter because he was a stepping stone, so now, probably earlier than you’d like, you pull out your cards of putting him down in the hopes that you can get that power that you need because the money doesn’t matter now, feeling that you beat him is what’s most important.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And lots of drugs & yes-men.

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yeah that much power and money certainly does something to your brain, the guy can’t think straight anymore

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  • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So he’s a hero after all?

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the one we didn’t need but deserve

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  • thepenismightier@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Luigi?

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  • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Seriously? I thought Edison at best, but Einstein? What did this shithead discover, exactly?

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• solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  None of them are geniuses, it’s just really hard to lose at capitalism when you have capital.

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  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its a human blind spot. A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence. In lower socio-economic levels, succeeding involves a lot of intelligence. Its a fucking struggle. Lots of fish trying to eat each other and take what little resources we have. Those values are used to evaluate the people at the top which are swimming in a whole different pond.

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    • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      honestly wealth at any level requires luck… intelligence barely factors into it

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    • Glide@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence.

      Smart people who make good products that people want will have the invisible hand distribute them wealth. Dumb people who make bad products that no one wants will go backrupt. This is the core philosophy behind why capitalism “works.” It is a system that conflates wealth with virtue, by design.

      You’re right to point out that it is incorrect logic, but no one is confusing anything. The entirety of our Western world is build around this idea and reinforces it to its people at every single opportunity. They’re making the judgements that they have been told are correct. Can we really say people are confused when they’re confidently acting exactly as they’ve been taught from birth?

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But Musk wants to be a trailblazer and prove that you can lose at anything.

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  • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look I don’t like Musk either but even starting off wealthy becoming the richest man in the world takes some doing. He was way ahead of the curve on reusable rockets and EVs and succeed there where a bunch of people failed. I think where he fails is when it comes to protecting his image and maintaining relationships. He’s a thin-skinned narcissist who thinks he’s humanity’s savoir and eventually that got to him.

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    • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning were just hapless chaps stumbling around in the dark, until Elon lighted their way with his genius vision of how to build an EV. So much so I had to google their names because even I can’t remember them.

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    • Yippster@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That…and buckets of drugs.

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  • SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like the way you put it

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• krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we’re calling nothing these days?

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And Trump is now threatening to cancel those government contracts. So he’s blown everything he’s gained (and then some) from his little fling with Trump.

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    • pi3r8@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s what trump does. He threatens. Then in the majority of times he gets distracted or backs down. Those contracts aren’t cancelled until they are cancelled.

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    • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even if we assume those contracts get canceled, unless they force him to destroy that data (which probably isn’t possible at this point) and reopen all those investigations then that’s not really true, is it?

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    • Zabjam@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TACO

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  • katze@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we’re calling nothing these days?

    But he also inflicted a lot of long-term damage upon himself and his businesses. So the question in the post still stands.

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  • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How will he benefit from the data he collected? He’s not in advertising and even if he were a snapshot isn’t worth much - you’d need an ongoing stream. Location data from teslas would be more valuable than the data could’ve stolen with doge.

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• GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Musk learned the hard way why other billionaires don’t get directly involved in politics, and buy politicians instead. That way they get what they want, but let the politicians take the heat for pushing through the billionaires agendas.

  The problem for Musk is that his ego wouldn’t allow him to sit quietly on the sidelines calling the shots. He had to prove how smart he was, and how he was the only one who could fix the government. Now, he’s pissed off almost everyone, has lost various large foreign contracts for his companies, drove sales of Tesla into the ground, and is watching Trump undo the “brilliant” governmental cost cutting that he did.

  And, his ego still won’t let it go, as now he’s suggested he’ll start his own political party. You just know the other billionaires are looking at him and going “What a dumbass!”

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  • Taalnazi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And still some dumb Americans will think:

    “Billionnaires got a lot of wealth, so they must know what they’re doing. Let them fix it.”

    When the actual answer is:

    “Billionnaires never once worked as much as we did. They got born with a fuckton of money. Let them eat cake.”

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Even if he loses hundreds of billions of dollars he’s still richer than like 99% of individual people worldwide will ever be.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He won’t though because although what he did is immoral it wasn’t illegal. After all the president of the United States authorised these actions they must be legal.

    Financially he’s going to suffer but there’s nothing in law that can be done to him.

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    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We’ve both seen how quickly the legislative landscape can change, let’s not write this loss off just yet.

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I had to look it up. Pajeet is a racial slur in SE Asia, apparently.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Leave it to 4chan to import all the slurs from around the world

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    • Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Perhaps even less surprising, this particular racial slur apparently came from 4chan.

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is it actually a slur, or just a stereotypical sounding name? Because if its the second isn’t it just like Barry eating his 3rd pie and chips of the afternoon with a pint of wife beater?

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  • julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sometimes Internet racism really confuses me. So Indians are in this case bad because they are… particularly likely to be Musk stans? Forgiving of rich people who fall from grace? Just generally not hateful people? I don’t get it.

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So Indians are in this case bad because they are… particularly likely to be Musk stans? Forgiving of rich people who fall from grace?

      I don’t know anything about Indian people to comment on how they are but in general, yes if you have an ounce of forgiveness for Elon or anyone like him you are a bad person. His kind should have absolutely nowhere to turn to at this point after the damage they’ve done. They’re beyond salvation, anything less than excommunicating them from society is enabling them.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You mean S Asia? India isn’t exactly east…

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  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not the point.

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• LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do I even want to know what a pajeet is?

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You probably don’t.

    I looked it up after not hearing the term before.

    Tap for spoiler

    It’s a slur for South Asians. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pajeet

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    • BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s actually a name. Pajeet is a genuine Hindu name. It’s a pejorative, in the same way “Paddy” is both an Irish name and used as a slur for Irish people.

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    • LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sadly I assumed correctly

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So is the implication that all Indians think Mush is a hero?

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  • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anti-South Asian/antisemitic ‘Great Replacement’ conspiracy theory term

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Antisemitic…? It’s just a general racist term towards Indians

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  • Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s an Indian, from India. Not Native American.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Racist word towards Indians

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• HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The thing is, this turd burgler could lose millions a day for the rest of his life and still retire more well-off than just about anybody. When’s the last time a truly filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If his wealth were a US treasury bond, he’d have to spend at least $50,000,000 every DAY in order to not still keep getting richer.

    Take a moment to think about how difficult it is to spend $50,000,000. If I gave you 24 hours to do it using Brewster’s Millions rules, you’d struggle.

    There is no good reason for billionaires to exist.

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  • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

    there’s not much that i like about the american healthcare system but the idea of fElon eventually ending up bankrupt because of that fucking black eye really had me thinking “maybe there’s something to this”

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  • snd@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8wSHKJ0C0

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  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mark Bankstone could do it

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• wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just say “retard” if you’re gonna say it. Lazily censoring it seems worse, because implications.

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  • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right? I’m tired of the euphemism treadmill telling me what I can and can’t say. Especially if we are coming up with childish phrases like “unalived”

    I used to call myself a <transgender slur> until woke cispeople got on my case about it.

    Ahh… I guess it’s better than the old internet where the N-Word was your fast pass to being seen as funny and cool?

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    • clang@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This has always felt very doublespeak-y to me. Sort of like a control mechanism.

      I don’t know anyone “unhoused” who has ever been offended at the word “homeless”. It just seems silly to me.

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I run into that shit with cripple.

      Fuck them, I’m the one on the fucking cane, I call myself what the fuck I want, and I will gladly fight about it.

      But, yeah, the edge lords will fuck things up

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  • imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i assumed it was “rasterization”

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  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or go the TikTok route and say “unsmarted” like a goddamn tool.

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  • Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have a decent among of patients that label could apply to and I don’t like seeing it used at all. A few weeks ago I was consoling a patient who was angrily crying because they perceived someone had used it to refer to them. I’m unsure if it was reality based; they do hallucinate and I didn’t personally witness it but its far from impossible, but they were absolutely distraught. Using it pejoratively AND censoring it means you knew it was fucked up and did it anyway.

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• Iambus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He already has fuck you money so he doesn’t give any fucks.

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• fadhl3y@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Next stop: Build an underwater city.

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• Nomad@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Somehow nobody has mentioned the drugs? And obvious signs of mental illness? Obviously high functioning, but that does not make the decisions less nuts.

  Has anybody seen the Johnny Harris video on musk? It was all fun and games until the drugs came out to play.

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• FreakinSteve@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Genuinely a retard and yes that is the correct word and stop trying to police it.

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• DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Generational wealth leads to people who are both extremely rich and extremely stupid.

  And Elon Musk is the best example of that in the history of mankind.

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• Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s 5D Narcissism :D

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• Emergency3030@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And so conveniently Russia just offered him asylum hahaha 🤣 and publicly 😂.

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• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  5d chess or not, hear me out.

  He may be autistic enough to burn it all down from the inside.

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• segabased@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  *conservatives can’t afford his cars

  Had to correct it

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• SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wonder if the trump cult also now hates him after saying he was the goat for the last 6 months.

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• wanderwisley@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Off to Russia?

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• RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He is secretly a shareholder in BYD and shorting Tesla. Nothing else makes sense.

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• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t forget completely mismanaging Twitter, and turning it into even more of a cesspool.

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• phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Genuine retard, it always was genuine retard

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• Disaster@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well… there is that bit where his companies now have all of the data they were able to loot from the Federal departments he ruined.

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• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Centrist democrats are already warming to him. Then again, they have been waiting for this moment ever since he performed his nazi salute.

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• plyth@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are people that stupid to overvalue Tesla that much for years or is somebody stabilizing the market rate?

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• Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  He’s not stupid, only suffers from drug induced dementia

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• Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Has absolutely nothing to show for it

  But is still the richest person in the world

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• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hard crash on the businesses, he sells whatever he has that’s worth good money (other, not his, companies stock) and buys a bunch of the destroyed stock. Promises to cede control, but continue funding. Tesla rebrands, becomes affordable and consumer friendly.

  I mean, there’s no way he would let all that happen. But he’s still sitting on an absolutely massive pile of money. If he had the balls to pull the rip cord he could sit right where he is for the rest of his life. He just doesn’t have it in him.

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