What the fuck happened to YouTube!?

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

I just tried to look up a specific video of a Nick Swardson stand up bit. All I searched was “Nick Swardson loitering”. There were 5 fucking ads before an actual user posted video, then one real human posted video that barely had anything to do with Nick, then 5 more fucking ads.

I knew they were forcing ads into videos but clogging the entire search feed with ads is unfuckingbelievable.

Is this really what it’s come to? Ads are more important than what I’m actually looking for? Are people really okay with this?

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slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Better question is why are you not using an adblocker?

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- ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Because I don’t know how to do all that shit on my phone 😭
  
  I’ve had several people try to explain but I just can’t fuckin do it. I’d need someone to sit down with me and show me while explaining every action.
  
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  - superkret@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Use your app store to install Firefox.
    Install ublock origin Firefox extension.
    Go to Youtube using Firefox.
    
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  - JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    From my experience, if you’re on iOS then Brave is the only browser I know of that includes a built-in adblocker (although I have my own issues with Brave).
    
    If you’re on Android, should be able to just install Firefox (or a fork like Fennec), tap the three dots in the app > Extensions > uBlock Origin
    
    If you’re otherwise using the YouTube app, I don’t have much to add in that respect as I usually use Invidious or NewPipe.
    
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  - AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    iOS or Android?
    
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  - awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I hate to say this, but you’re exactly the reason why Youtube and other services feel safe and comfortable enshittifying their services.
    
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  - Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    On Android Tubular is pretty awesome.
    
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  - abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You can use this download link on your phone to download the .apk for NewPipe. This link is a direct download to install the app. (If you don’t trust my link, you can got to newpipe.net yourself), so if you click it, it should immediately start downlaoading and you can follow the steps to install the app. It’s pretty self explanatory.
    
    It’s a frontend for youtube that removes all ads. You can’t comment or like, but you can subscribe to channels via NewPipe, just like you’re used to in youtube. But no ads. You do not need to login, it is not tied to your youtube account.
    
    Youtube doesn’t like ad dodging frontends, so every once in while the app won’t work and you’ll need to go back to youtube (or a different alternative) for a day or two until the folks at NewPipe fix it again. It’s kind of an arms race like that, but with advertising.
    
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  - AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The internet with a proper ad blocker is a game changer. Take the five minutes to figure it out. You’ll save more as free time than that on your first day.
    
    Ironically, you could also YouTube how to install Firefox, then unlock.
    
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  - ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Get GrayJay.
    
    That’s all. Just use grayjay. Either go to grayjay.app and get it, or get it off the Google play store. It’s “Grayjay” from “futo”
    
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  - Blizzard@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you’re on android, use AdGuard that blocks ads in other apps. Or use Vivaldi browser with built in adblocker.
    
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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I want to upvote you, but you’re at 69 upvotes…
  
  Nice!
  
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  - illi@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Feel free to upvote them now
    
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- themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Is piped working again?
  
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  - slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No idea, I use unlock with Firefox for YT stuff.
    
    Even works on android.
    
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58008@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The ad industry is truly one of the most reprehensible and insidious things humans have ever invited unto themselves. It’s beyond dystopian how much of our ability to move through the world is now contingent on us allowing our brains to be bukkaked with ads that are designed specifically to bypass our rationality and embed themselves in the very fabric of our beings like psychological rootkits.

I believe conspiracism is the root of all evil. But ads are gaining on conspiracism like they’re Usain Bolt being chased by an angry bee.

I have to hand it to those soulless fucking devils though, they might have pulled off one of the most brazen but successful mindfucks I’ve ever seen: they convinced lots of people that seeing ads about topics they were interested in was some sort of concession from the ad industry, like they were begrudgingly implementing measures to make ads “relevant” to us, and that we were somehow gaming the system because of it. It was a “win” for us to have the ads being served into our eyeballs and ears be tailor-made for us. “I’m so sick of seeing ads for products I don’t even care about! I wish there was a way to make the ads be relevant to ME” said no cunt ever. But they managed to convinced us that everyone else was saying that, and that we’d won some sort of victory against them to have their advertising have the precision of a sniper rifle, versus what it was before, like some sort of shotgun fired from 150 feet away in the dark.

An entire species of marks.

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- solsangraal@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  brains to be bukkaked with ads that are designed specifically to bypass our rationality and embed themselves in the very fabric of our beings like psychological rootkits.
  
  and like 90% of people think they’re completely impervious to ads lol
  
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  - Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    HEY! YOU!!! JOIN THE NAVY!!!
    
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- AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I have been using adblockers for decades already. And it’s been that long since I had to see ads. Occasionally some site will have some way of it getting through but even then I have the plugin scan and it sometimes can start blocking it. Essentially, my internet has been 95% ad-free and frankly I am surprised when I encounter anyone who doesn’t do the same.
  
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  - Uli@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve used an adblocker for ages as well, though I do wish content creators on YouTube could get some passive non-membership revenue from me without me having to disable my adblock and look directly into the Ark of the Covenant. I could get Premium, but at that point, I feel like I’ve negotiated with a terrorist.
    
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  - TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Remember that time when YT started showing banner ads below the video? Yeah, that was like just after the dinosaurs were wiped out and before blockchains became a thing. I was a long time ago, ok. Anyway, that’s when I was about to quit watching YT, but then I suddenly discovered the wonderful world of ad-blocking. Turns out, YT became watchable again.
    
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- rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That and all the people who say shit like “But I have to watch the ads to support the creators”, like there wasn’t 70 years of TV advertisements preceding this generation. I know I’m talking to a kid when someone says that. No one thought they were stealing from Burt Reynolds if they didn’t buy a Chrysler or tampons. It’s absurd.
  
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- Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I feel your vitriol and agree with it 100%.
  
  When politicians of both parties say shit like “Americans like their private health insurance”… I kind of die a little.
  
  When a random podcast from somewhere else in the world has a local ad injected into it by the app I downloaded it with…same.
  
  When the godamn fucking pitcher’s mound has a CGI ad superimposed over it…same.
  
  We’re going to advertise and conspicuously consume ourselves into extinction. So there’s that I guess.
  
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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  My god that was well written. We should be friends.
  
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- ours@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The link between conspiracies and ads is way stronger than that. The ad industry really went into high gear following WWII when the people working on pumping out propaganda to drive their own side of the war stepped up the game by applying psychology, new media, and a bigger budget.
  
  Those people and techniques then moved to the commercial market when the war ended and applied their trade to peddle us the crap their customers wanted to sell. Make us feel bad if we don’t buy product X and go on an endless consumption treadmill to try to feel good and adequate about ourselves.
  
  It is despicable and even worse with ads targeting children.
  
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- paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But, but, how will people know about our product?!😩
  
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- aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  PREACH
  
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- Mango@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I like the way you English.
  
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- Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I could not agree more with your eloquently-written poignant rant, but I cannot resist being an extreme pedant—a shotgun fired at 150ft has a very small spread.
  
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- akwd169@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Sorry what exactly do you mean about conspiracism? As in the belief in conspiracy theories, right?
  
  I’m curious what you mean when you say it’s the root of all evil
  
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miridius@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Are you… raw dogging the internet without an ad blocker? You poor soul

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- skeezix@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s the latest fad challenge, navigating your way through cancerous web pages
  
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- yboutros@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Don’t tell him, if too many people get ad blockers they’re just going to keep evolving
  
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  - miridius@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Is that really how it works? I feel like the whole ad based economy is a sham anyway, I wouldn’t mind if it collapsed and we funded websites through micropayments or gift economy
    
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- SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I like this sentence.
  
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- ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  9 times out of 10 the ads have zero effect on my ability to search for things.
  
  I’m not saying searches haven’t gotten worse but until this specific thing or Google’s ai search it’s been easy to ignore if you know what you’re doing.
  
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  - CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I remember being that guy.
    It never gets better, ads only ever get worse. If you are successfully ignoring ads then they aren’t doing their job, and they will keep trying different ways to get your attention until you get sick of this shit and get an ad blocker.
    
    You have found a specific thing that would improve, save yourself the hassle and get ublock now to fix this for you as well as a dozen other little things you are “living with” that will be much better when they’re gone.
    
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  - pyre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    username checks out
    
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  - prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ads aren’t the only thing to worry about. You’re leaving yourself dangerously exposed to malware for literally no reason.
    
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don@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Real homies don’t let homies view YouTube without proper adblockers turned on

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- Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But you’re stealing from content creators
  
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  - lugal@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    As so often, you steal from the capitalist, not the workers
    
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  - Summzashi@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sarcasm, surely.
    
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vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What happened is that you forgot to install an ad blocker.

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- thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  yes, but their results are trash now. shows you 5 results, then 10 or things you’ve probably already seen completely unrelated to the search, then random “trending” garbage.
  
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  - Zacryon@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    There is a neat Firefox plugin which makes visits to yubbtub more tolerable by getting rid of unrelated suggestions:
    RYS — Remove YouTube Suggestions
    
    It has a lot of options to tailor it to your needs.
    
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- Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is not ad-blocking related. The search results on YouTube are literal trash and there’s nothing we can do about it.
  
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  - irreticent@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Same with Google. Their search results are a joke now.
    
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  - vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh right. How amazing that one of my highest upmodded comment is the one where my comment is full of shit
    
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Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I take it you haven’t been paying attention. The term that has been it coined is called “enshitification” and the Google is running at the head of the pack in their race to the sewer.

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- erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  We should probably stop using that word and just call it by it’s proper name, "Capitalism”. The only way for an ad revenue based business to drive growth is to force more and more ads on users, and flood their platform with bots to increase engagement numbers.
  
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  - Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It can be two things.
    
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- Mr_Blott@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No, the kids are scared to type scary-sweary words now so the term is ensh*ttification
  
  OP has some catching up to do
  
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  - lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No, the kids have learned that if you mention a swear word or something that could be a swear word on capitalistic social media, you get censored.
    
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  - Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No, I just don’t; the profanity is part of the point. It’s meant to convey the magnitude of the deliberate running of the quality of the things in order to feed the bottomless hunger of the capitalist abomination ruling over all of our lives.
    
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yuuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How do people not know about ublock origin/sponsorblock? Lol

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- yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Even with ublock, the search is completely useless always mixing barely relevant videos with ones that have nothing to do with your terms at all.
  
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Google knows the answer to this is: “What else are you going to use, Dailymotion?”

Which is why they’re a monopoly.

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- DMBFFF@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I still try Vimeo, Archives, and even PeerTube and WikiCommons.
  
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- gencha@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not watching is actually an option.
  
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  - FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sure. Not watching your favorite show is always an option. But if it’s your favorite show, that really sucks.
    
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01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
We estimate that we can sell up to 80% of a user’s visual field without inducing a seizure.

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- samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Make it 85% and show ads for anti-seizure medicine.
  
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DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s called enshittification:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

Enshittification is a re-prioritization pattern where online product and service providers experience a decline in quality over time. It is observed as platforms transition through several stages: initially offering high-quality services to attract users, then shifting to favor business customers to increase profitability, and finally focusing on maximizing profits for shareholders at the expense of both users and business customers. This process results in a significant deterioration of the user experience.

Though the concept had been recognized and labeled with similar terms,[1][2] the neologism “enshittification” was coined by writer Cory Doctorow in November 2022 to describe this phenomenon. The American Dialect Society recognized the term’s relevance and impact by selecting it as its 2023 Word of the Year. Doctorow has also referred to this concept as platform decay, emphasizing the inevitable decline in service quality due to these profit-driven changes.

To tackle and diminish enshittification, Doctorow advocates for two fundamental solutions: upholding the end-to-end principle and guaranteeing the right of exit. The end-to-end principle asserts that platforms should transmit data in response to user requests rather than algorithm-driven decisions. Ensuring the right of exit entails facilitating user departure from platforms without data loss, which necessitates interoperability. These strategies aim to uphold the standards and trustworthiness of online platforms, placing emphasis on user satisfaction and encouraging market competition.

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BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ublock. Simple as.

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- w2tpmf@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That now requires downloading Firefox first.
  
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  - autokludge@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I fail to see the issue.
    
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  - lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh that’s a good point!
    
    BreadOven should add that step to their instructions
    
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KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
i tried to find a clip of that olympics break dancing thing a week or two ago.

It was fucking impossible. I literally couldn’t find shit, it was all AI generated videos.

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- eletes@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That one is a Olympic copyright issue. Either NBC since they pay so much for the rights or the IOC flag videos immediately so all your left with is low quality videos.
  
  It genuinely ruins trying to find Olympics content if NBC doesn’t cover that specific event
  
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- vane@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  here you go odysee.com/@deniel22:b/raygun:1
  
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- Fades@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is to be expected, Google does the same thing with their search engine; delay providing the most accurate and related results in order to get users to see more ads per search.
  
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half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Enshit.

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deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How have you survived this long without UBlock?

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daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Youtube is useless nowadays.

We need more content in PeerTube if we want that kind of website again.

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dreikelvin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Get Firefox and install uBlock Origin

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Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Also, search on YouTube has been utterly broken for years. You get at most 4 or 5 results and then a random series of videos that are completely unrelated to my search query.

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Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Revanced for android. Not a single add.

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Gemini24601@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Invidious was created due to this, it’s an extremely light weight, ad free YouTube front-end. Most of YouTube’s attempts at blocking it out fixed within a week. Try it now: invidious.io

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bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

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mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve got about half a dozen plugins in Firefox specifically for YouTube to make the front page even remotely usable.

Without them YouTube isn’t even worth it.

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Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
YouTube is broke, but it was also deliberately punishing you for looking up Nick swardson I think?

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x00z@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Odysee just removed all ads of their platform and seems like a great YouTube alternative. I’ve been using it and uploading videos to it and I’m liking it a lot.

The comments are also much higher in quality. I’d say it’s comparable like Lemmy and Reddit. Much more positivity and people who actually add something to a video. You do ofcourse have a few Nazis hanging around, but freedom goes both ways and you don’t really come across them.

Besides that just use NewPipe on mobile or an AdBlocker.

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mlg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Aside from adblocking making youtube actually usable, there’s been such a notorious increase in enforcement of DRM.

I couldn’t watch jack anything related to Olympics because NBC got youtube to spam remove practically any footage, as if I’m going to spend cash money on their shitty streaming platform to find a 30 second clip. Same thing for any ICC highlights. Only 360p widened 2 minute videos get past the filter.

Almost no such thing as public replays, clips, montages, or highlights anymore. It all gets boxed up in some corporate ownership, never to be seen again aside from the live footage.

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dukatos@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Omg, it is full of ads… Futurama, 15 years ago…

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Xephonian@retrolemmy.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Same as Google results, they’ve decided we can’t choose for ourselves and are now going to curated results.

Rumble and Yahoo are far better.

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TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Short answer: money

Long answer: As more and more ad sales started rolling in, YT was like: “Yes please! Can I have some more of that sweet sweet ad money?” Advertisers were like: “Yeah, sure why not. That seems to boost sales, so how much money can we dump into this black hole?” Some users were like: “WTF! I’m installing an adblocker.”

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Art3sian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I never thought I’d say it, but I don’t even use YouTube anymore. I might go there once a month to watch a tute, but only if I absolutely can’t find help from any other website.

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neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
YouTube is unusable without ReVanced or (insert preferred method for adblocking here)

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Brotherly@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If on a computer, install ublockorigin. If on android, get revanced.

Enjoy not seeing ads at all.

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