What the fuck happened to YouTube!?

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

I just tried to look up a specific video of a Nick Swardson stand up bit. All I searched was “Nick Swardson loitering”. There were 5 fucking ads before an actual user posted video, then one real human posted video that barely had anything to do with Nick, then 5 more fucking ads.

I knew they were forcing ads into videos but clogging the entire search feed with ads is unfuckingbelievable.

Is this really what it’s come to? Ads are more important than what I’m actually looking for? Are people really okay with this?

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Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve been saying for almost 5 years now, ditch youtube. Everything I get the most butt hurt responses.

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- blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The tides will turn though. I’ve been denouncing google for years, and I’ve find it quite striking how the pushback has disappeared recently. It use to be that any negative comment about google was met by a small army of google fans. That just isn’t the case any more.
  
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- jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The dream is dead but we are still clinging to the memories of the good times
  
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  - Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I get it, some things are not easily replaceable. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take active steps to cut ties. The biggest steps for me was uninstalling the obnoxiously default install on my phone and subscribing to an actual music service.
    
    Going to youtube isn’t taboo, for me, just with the app un-installed I have to make the conscious decision to browse the site. The site is also much less convenient; making the experience mostly untenable. People existed before youtube and will exist after. The point isn’t to cripple them but to hit them hard enough to reflect on their dopamine pushing mentality.
    
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- RexWrexWrecks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Where do you go for random videos and passing time watching things you’re interested in?
  
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  - Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Pornhub.
    
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  - Liz@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Playeur is alright, they need a few more big creators to join, but some of my favorite firearms channels have gone over there, and I discovered a botany channel on there I had never seen before.
    
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daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Everyone say to use an AdBlock. And while for now they work it’s a lose battle.

Youtube ads vs adblockers does not have the happy ending of adblockers just always prevailing.

As now embedded serverside ads are a pain to deal with. I don’t know if any adblock currently can surpass those.

But next step will be youtube just putting a fence up and not letting you watch content unless you are registered, and thus banning any suspicious activity, or even just becoming a paid service.

The only win here is moving to a open platform like Peertube. That’s the only future we can ensure. Adblocks won’t be able to always win.

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- UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  As now embedded serverside ads are a pain to deal with. I don’t know if any adblock currently can surpass those.
  
  But next step will be youtube just putting a fence up and not letting you watch content unless you are registered, and thus banning any suspicious activity, or even just becoming a paid service
  
  Honestly, I have not seen youtube ads in ages. Every now and then, when I have taken sufficient leave of my senses after having imbibed, I may attempt to view something on youtube using a device without an ad blocker, and then I am quickly and sharply reminded of what a dumpster fire that is. But on PC - no sir or madam, no ads at all, thank you very much.
  
  Personally, I think the much bigger problem of sites like youtube and tiktok are the unforgivably horrible “recommendations”. You search for something innocent or even just open the website, and you are recommended random closetted or open fascism, misogynie, racism, or other garbage.
  
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Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s like ad, four tiktok “shorts”, carousel of unrelated games, another ad, actual video, repeat

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Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Install Newpipe on your phone OP. That’s all you got to do. Just use Newpipe whenever you want to browse YT.

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iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I know this is an incredibly unpopular take on Lemmy, but YT Premium is the best value subscription on the web by my reckoning. I watch an absolute fuck ton of content on YT, and I listen to an absolute fuck ton of music on YT music. And my partner does too.

If you don’t use YT enough to justify the cost of the sub, I understand being frustrated with the ads but it’s a free service. I can’t imagine the amount of data that YT serves daily to free users.

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- AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Well they’ve successfully extorted you.
  Most of us use ad blockers.
  
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  - iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Extorted? Why are you so dramatic? It’s a service I’m happy to pay for.
    
    I use ad blockers too. But I also don’t mind paying for a good service. The cost of the service is worth it to me for the conveniences it offers. If I didn’t feel that way, I wouldn’t pay for it, but I also wouldn’t be complaining about something I’m not paying for.
    
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  - TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Or YouTube vanced/revanced for mobile
    
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- lung@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah I’m with you on this, I actually only got it for YouTube music — which really is like “here you can play any song from the history of humanity and also yt video audios”
  
  But I have been enjoying the fact that my subscription goes towards paying the ppl I watch, and I like that I’m unaffected by YT’s server side ads concept (which I’ve always wondered why they don’t do, I think it makes CDNs too hard to optimize while stitching ads directly into videos)
  
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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m the same regarding Spotify. Only service I pay for, but I’m happy to do so for now. Not even a big music listener, but it’s damned nice to hear anything I want, anywhere I want, for a small fee.
  
  My most frequent use case is off in the boondocks. I can download a dozen playlists to my phone and play them all offline.
  
  And this is coming from a guy that used to download 20 song fragments off Usenet and compile them to get a single MP3. Also, I still steal all my video content.
  
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- greenskye@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Same. I originally got it for YT music. I don’t listen to as much music as I used to without a commute anymore, but my wife and I watch a ton of YouTube. And it’s mildly more difficult to block ads on the Roku too. I know pi holes exist, but my wife plays those freemium games that give you currency for watching ads and blocking all ads will break shit for her and then I have to fix it. Someone will tell me there’s an easy solve I’m sure, but honestly the subscription is just way easier and I really don’t mind paying. $16/mo for a family plan is 100% worth it to just not deal with all of that.
  
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- algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I disagree on the value part. It’s more expensive than most other streaming aervices. If it was less than $10/mo I would sign up in a heartbeat
  
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  - edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I thought it was $9.99/mo. What the hell are they charging for it?
    
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QuentinQuiver@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Try invidious or other platforms entirely lol. Newpipe on phones. Also block ads in browsers and on networks as much as possible

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olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m on YouTube revanced android. I have no idea what how stock YouTube looks like.

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- radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  JD Vanced
  
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  - InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Image
    
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- hate2bme@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Just joined the club this week. I can’t believe I waited this long.
  
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AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Use Firefox. Use ublock origin extension. Use sponsorblock.

On iOS Safari extension Adblock. Plenty available.

I have not seen an ad in years. Decades even.

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- TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I don’t think adblockers existed in 2004 but ok. Extensions might have been a brand new concept…
  
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  - AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    lol yes they did.
    
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Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
does Nick Swardson loitering search *scrolls… thinking “i don’t see what their on about most of this looks relevant…” looks at Ublock notification bubble 66 blocked “oh… oh my.”
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Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve got a friend who thinks his YouTube Red subscription helps his subs make a living… So yes, this is what people like my retarded friend are bringing all of us.

I’m sorry… I really am.

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Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I just pay for premium. Hassle free YouTube is worth more money than any other subscription I have.

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- lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Jezus F Christ, Jimmy, just use Firefox and uBlock! Also works on the phone, by the way.
  
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  - Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I got both of those. I’ve been with YouTube since it came out and was called YouTube red however many years ago. My family plan has 5 or 6 slots. Between YouTube music and the video side and how many other family get to use it it’s an insane value. Plus half the money goes back to the creators I watch. I can’t find a single downside to paying.
    
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- Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve been experiencing a ton of buffering issues lately trying to use YouTube with uBlock Origin. I’m pretty much on the brink of subscribing myself too. It’s by far the most valuable online platform for me and I’ve used it for free well over a decade. It was a good run and I’m not even mad.
  
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  - Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Not to mention a good portion of the sub goes back to all the creators you watch. People don’t want YouTube to make money for hosting costs, and people don’t want creators to make money for making video through ads. Really weird expectations.
    
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- Pherenike@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You’re doing exactly what they want you to do then. Why not try some alternatives for ad-free watching like Newpipe or Freetube or some such? Youtube is not worthy of your hard-earned cash…
  
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tilefan@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
you want YouTube Revanced

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- TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve been using New Pipe, but they seem to have broken every 3rd party front-end within the last week or so.
  
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jecxjo@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What I’m amazed about is that ads even work at all. Especially when they are white noise. I’ve never once clicked on an ad to go see more about the content because I’m here to watch a video.

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spittingimage@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You’ve discovered enshittification. Bad luck.

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W_itjust_works@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I see what you’re doing Nick Swardson

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bokherif@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Even without the ads, the algorithm is so crap that I doubt you would find what you were looking for. On an iPhone you either pay for Premium for a shitty service or try building and sideloading uYouPlus. Adguard + Safari works to an extent and Brave might work better but haven’t tried it.

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- AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Safari with ad blocker YouTube end of story. I watch YT videos ad-free for years. How doesn’t everyone do this??
  
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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The recommendation algo works pretty well for me, and I don’t know why!
  
  I’m a gun nut, watch tons of guntubers, so you would think I’d be overrun with right-wing crap, but I’m not. At all.
  
  It’s annoying to watch a single video outside my typical interests and get a bunch of the same. But having said that, those recommendations quickly fade. For example, I was watching outdoor survival videos for a bit, predictably got hit with plenty more. But those are long gone.
  
  Watched several videos about choosing and using gas masks one night. Here comes the survivalist, right-wing shit! But it didn’t really go that way. And again, faded fast.
  
  Anyone have insight for me?
  
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smb@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

unfuckingbelievable

if you want that without the “un” prefix, then youtube is maybe just the wrong platform for you.

and i strongly believe that youtube “wants” to force more usage of peertube, vimeo and others by enshitting yt every day a bit more. and they really work hard for that.

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JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you not heard of “The Great Enshitification “ going on?

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bigFab@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The tipping point for me to definitely use adblock was 2022 and the ads when forwarding in videos. It’s absolutely nonsense.

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jimrob4@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I caved and subscribed during the 2020 elections. Got tired of seeing two old dipshits yell at each other in ads. Actually enjoyed it enough to keep paying $12 a month.

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FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you use Brave browser, you’ll get zero adds and you don’t have to use an add-on. Give it a try.

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Atomic@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Are people really ok with this?

What are you gonna do about it?

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stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
All these comments about adblockers - you’re truly naive if you think those are going to last in any capacity.

Chrome/Edge are already going to be neutering the majority of the functionality with manifest v3.

Firefox is already starting to see some commercialization/enshitification with this new exec. Adblocker days are numbered. Soon they’ll be streaming the ads in-line with the videos everywhere and you’ll need to have a special hacked up rig just to content filter and be forced to sit in silence for X minutes.

Just because the problem is at your neighbors house, doesn’t mean it won’t come to yours.

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- TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ah what a very helpful and hopeful look into the future that totally doesn’t ignore the present.
  
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