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  • red_tomato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ISO 8601

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    • 7EP6vuI@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ISO 8601

      YYYY-MM-DD

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      • jlow@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        👆

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      • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        RFC 3339 FTW!

        Open source, and no ambiguous options grandfathered in.

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      • plasma8726@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is the only way to date.

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      • Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No need for dashes

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      • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve recently noticed web forms and appointment emails start to use that format. Maybe web devs are sneaking it in bit by bit.

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      • Nonononoki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Are a lots of things gonna break in about 8000 years?

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      • CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ISO week date

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As for why it’s better:

      1. It’s in sort order. Even if you use it for things that don’t understand dates, they sort properly because the day is the last part, month is the middle part, and year is the first part. If you include hours, minutes or seconds, the sort order is still preserved.
      2. Speaking of things that don’t understand dates, because there are no slashes, you can easily use it in file names, directories, and anything else that treats slash as a special character. In addition, if you include the time part, because it uses “T” to separate the date and time, it doesn’t use a space, so once again it can be easily used anywhere where a space might cause issues.
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      • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ISO is better for archiving and sorting, inarguably so. But dd-mm-yyyy is better for day to day daily life usage, where the day and month are much more important than the year.

        Both have their uses, but for different situations. mm-dd-yyyy is just batshit though.

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      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        To be fair, the time separators don’t behave well on all implementations of filesystem access by filename. Need to use underscores or omit them at times.

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    • TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the way.

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      • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is the way.

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    • mkwt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ISO would be great, but sadly OmegaStar doesn’t support ISO timestamps yet.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wtf is an omega star?

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      • bss03@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “While Galactus has omniscient knowledge of all current user data providers, it doesn’t have future sight”

        Just use EKS to deliver the feature this quarter, and block the OmegaStar migration on “the team gets their shit together” and supports ISO timestamps.

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    • trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      RFC 3339

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    • BigDiction@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s great, and standard for software. But do any of y’all communicate dates like this in your personal life?

      Like “want to go to a hockey game with me 2026-10-17?” Like as cursed as mm-dd-yy is, it feels a lot more natural in conversation.

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      • dantel@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Say when is that independence day of yours?

        There is nothing ‘natural’ about mm/dd/yy, it is just what you are used to - end of story.

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      • Quokka@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        dd-mm feels completely natural to say in conversation. “Do you want to go to a X with me on the 3rd of August”

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      • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I absolutely full out dates in iso 8601 any time I’m required to sign a form.

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      • lena@gregtech.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes (I’m insane)

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      • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, kind of.

        I shorthand it verbally unless I’m giving a full date, but typed, it’s almost always yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss (whichever part of that is relevant).

        I do this because I believe it’s the most logical, it sorts properly without having to use a datetime library, and it can’t be confused with another system (is 12-1-2026 in the future or the past? No way to know just by looking at it).

        Just shortening it to MM-dd could cause confusion with anyone not in the US so I’ll typically include the year as well (also useful if I wind up having to look at old notes or emails to not have to figure out the year I meant … Which has happened more than once …)

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      • lividweasel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Only a truly insane person would use mm-dd-yy in conversation. “Want to go to a hockey game with me ten seventeen twenty-six?” Or worse, “…oh four oh seven twenty-seven.” Pure madness.

        Conversationally, mmm d yy or d mmm yy (usually just shortened to mmm d or d mmm) is where it’s at.

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      • Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s no reason the two need to be the same. We don’t talk in heximal either

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I spell out the month, but I’m fancy

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      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yes, I’ll send dates as mm-dd in my personal life as well. only when discussing exact dates for scheduling things, otherwise in conversational messaging it’s mmmm dd

        like if we’re talking about when we want to go do x activity, I’ll propose August 8th. but if we’re scheduling trip dates, it’s 08-08 through 09-12

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    • trainsrkool@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      💯

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Except I can’t get behind the time part of it, personally. I can see the point of doing GMT with the offset if you’re working across multiple timezones, but it’s overkill for situations where you aren’t.

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      • Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s no way to predict how a date will be used. No reason not to be flexible. No reason to break convention.

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      • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s how my brother missed a train: the linux planner used GMT while the local train company planner used assumed local time…

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      • CannedYeet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, the time part should obviously be written in Swatch Internet Time, he writes at @910.

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      • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How so, out of curiosity?

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    • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not shit enough for a shitpost.

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  • gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FAIL

    yyyy-mm-dd

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    • Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ISO 8601!

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      • Mavenbushlog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Long live the 8601

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      • gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        my beloved

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      • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bear in mind that

        YY-MM-DD	or	YYMMDD
        -YY-MM	or	-YYMM
        --MM-DD	or	--MMDD
        --MM
        ---DD
        

        are all valid 8601

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    • OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep. Doing that joke and landing on anything but ISO-8601 would be a huge red flag for me.

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    • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Being able to sort numerically and have it also be in chronological order is sooo cool.

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    • lietuva@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lithuania, Hungary, Japan represent

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      • cepelinas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tik gryžtu ir randu Lietuva.

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    • darkmogool@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yep… this or dd.mm.yyyy (for texts)

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    • Mavenbushlog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Based

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the answer. So easy to sort.

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  • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    YYYY-MM-DD

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep and it needs to use hyphens and not slashes. It helps avoid missed typos or mis-reads in some situations, especially if hand-written.

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      • froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        and it’s perfectly sortable

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      • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There are also variants with single dots too. I sometimes do timestamps without any separator too, depending on the context (such as file backups): YYYYMMDD in example 20260805.

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    • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ISO 8601 my beloved

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  • Zikeji@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I read this meme and was physically revolted and wanted to immediately down vote. Great job.

    The superior date format is, of course, ISO 8601. YYYY-MM-DD.

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    • dan@upvote.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      RFC3339 is better than ISO8601 since it doesn’t allow some of the esoteric formats, and allows some useful formats that ISO8601 doesn’t (like separating date and time by a space instead of by T)

      ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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  • gex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yyyy/mm/dd, it’s less ambiguous and it sorts nicely

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    • Pudutr0n@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      nerd detected

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    • Carl@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Beat me to it, except I’d do yyyy-mm-dd because some OSes throw fits about having slashes in file names. Way better than the “Group Project-final FINAL v3 PAUL USE THIS ONE.file” versioning system that people seem to use.

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    • Bahnd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      HISSSSSS.

      switch the slashes to dashes

      [Angry ISO-8601 noises]

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I should turn your comment into a shitpost…

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  • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ew.

    yyyymmdd

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tis the Canadian way.

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  • AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ISO 8601 or gtfo

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  • Xyphius@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I feel like DD/MM/YYYY is the same as doing: ss:mm:HH and I find that confusing.

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    • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s really funny. DMY is more like Hms in that it is in descending order of relevance. Most people asking the date or time are looking for the hour of the day or the day of the month, and the rest is context.

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    • kamen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I see the duality in this but I still think both are valid. When telling the time, there’s usually no point in including the seconds since they’ll have changed before you finish saying the whole thing anyway. In spoken word IMO it makes sense to go from more specific to less specific, and even not include extra parts sometimes (e. g. “today is the 3rd” when it’s expected to know the month and, well, year from context, or “it’s half past” to someone whom you’ve told the time a couple of minutes ago).

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    • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The point is the order of importance, i am gonna need to know day and month we are in way more often than the year, i also want to know more often the hours and the minutes than the seconds, the seconds change way too often to be useful in most scenarios

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  • M137@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ITT: people saying one thing is better than any other without thinking of context.
    If I want to know today’s date ISO 8601 isn’t a good answer. And if I put stuff in folders by date then DD-MM-YYYY is a real bad way to do it. But MM-DD-YYYY is the worst one no matter the context.

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    • KernelTale@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I like YYYY-MM-DD because then I don’t have to figure out half the time if they used MM-DD-YYYY or if they were sane.

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    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If I want to know today’s date ISO 8601 isn’t a good answer

      Can be tailed to the relevant bit though.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The one you grew up with tends to be your preference. But the usual reason I give for MM-DD-YYYY is it matches how it’s said.

      December 25th, 2026

      12-25-2026

      I also know there’s no point in arguing about this because, again, my first sentence. It’s just team sports stuff, as usual. The only reason why you would bother to argue is if you were trying to convince people to use a standard. But as you pointed out, ISO 8601 already exists. That is the agreed upon standard already. But no one uses it, since we have our preferred systems of date format already ingrained.

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    • AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I became an evangelist for YYYY-MM-DD format once I had to deal with a legal battle that had multiple years of documentary evidence. I sorely regretted my choice of naming files when I had to wade through a heckton of upsetting reminders. It got a lot easier when I renamed everything according to YYYY-MM-DD (and the lawyers probably appreciated it too)

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  • Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    YYYYMMDDHHMMSS

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  • dEVbiKub@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s a red flag… He has obviously not received the xkcd PSA.

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  • procrastitron@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anyone who wants to write the millennium between the month and century loses all credibility when arguing about date formats.

    YYYY-MM-DD is the only coherent date format.

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  • drath@lemmy.drath.ru ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Months are stupid anyway, lets drop them and swap for what they were supposed to represent instead: the moon phase, so today would be 216-2026-Waning Gibbous

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  • abc@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The one that ends us with f… I mean ISO 8601 of course

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  • sik0fewl@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I proper shit post would have suggested “mm/dd/yyyy”.

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  • chickenf622@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ISO 8601 (yyyy-mm-dd) for storing dates in software. Any format that that goes in the order of day, month, and year for conversational/presentational purposes, preferable the format is dynamic depending on the user’s locale (even for those that want the month first). There now everyone is happy.

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  • dlsloop@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m a YYYY/MM/DD man myself

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  • Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I prefer ddd/yyyy, much simpler

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  • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1785793853 seconds since Linux epoch

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Y-DDD-MM

    It is currently 6-004-08

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  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    other formats are confusing

    Good luck sorting anything by date!

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  • GarboDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We grew up on MM/DD/YYYY but all our computer stuff is YYYY/MM/DD however now that we live in EU we use DD/MM/YYYY and still YYYY/MM/DD for files in pc

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  • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    April 25th.

    We’ve already established this.

    Because it’s not too hot and not too cold. All you need is a light jacket.

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  • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why? dd/mm/yyyy isnt practical. If you are asking someone to check out part of a book, you wouldn’t say “paragraph 4, chapter 3”, you start broad and become more specific. Calendars, at least in the US, are organized by month. You have turn turn to the month page before finding the date, it makes more sense to say month first because its the first piece of information that you need (unless its a more rare case that you are talking about an event in another year).

    Im sure programmers prefer something different, but humans shouldn’t have to communicate differently to make computing easier. Computing exists to make human life easier, not the other way around.

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  • OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Apparently im a freak who is MM/DD/YEAR.

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ISO datetime, let’s goooooo YYYYMMDDHHmmSS

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  • mister_universe@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For organizing my stuff I use yyyy/mm/dd because in my opinion it’s much better. Otherwise dd/mm/yyyy.

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  • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    4/Aug/2026

    Already saw 1 person write 4/7/26. Writing that 3-4 letters for the month both solves the day/month vs month/day issue, and the off chance someone makes mistake of the month number

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  • brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    DD(First 3 of Month, All Caps)YYYY examples: 01JAN2026, 24MAR1987,20DEC3065

    This is how I had to write dates when I worked for a cGMP pharma manufacturing facility and did controlled paperwork. The idea was it was it was impossible for any mistakes when reading the date, only the days were 2 digits, the month was letters, and the year was 4 digits.

    Basically all of the validated SOPs were written so that anyone could pick up the paperwork and execute the instructions, and the inverse had to be true as well anyone picking up a completed SOP should be able to read and follow everything written down, and literally every step in the process required initials and date it was executed.

    Fun fact, if you fucked up and wrote something wrong or illegibly you were punished twice, once because you had to strike out the mistake, initial date the strikeout and write correctly the next time, and the second was when you get stink eyed by the QA people who have to review all the paperwork before it’s scanned and logged back into documentum.

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