Submitted 2 weeks ago by ivanafterall@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Why do 'Murican “car guys” make owning a car (well, the finance company really owns it) their whole personality?
It’s a car
Like dickheads who wear Harley clothing to advertise the fact that they’re afraid of going around corners and desperately need attention
Not nearly as bad as the lady who briefly worked in my office. She had a ton of Harley-Davidson accessories. Literally the first thing she told us was that she and her husband love the brand and riding motorcycles. I asked how many Harleys they had. The answer? Zero, but they hoped to buy one someday.
They made “hoping to own something” their whole personality.
They made “hoping to own something” their whole personality.
The American Dream.
I wonder what will happen when they can actually afford to buy a Harley, and realize they’re not very good bikes?
Fun fact, for decades Harley has made more selling their clothes to wannabes than selling their shit bikes to dentists with a midlife crisis
To be fair, it’s not just an American thing. Plenty of beemer bros in Europe.
That’s why I prefer frigates.
Oh here we go again. You know that shit is why WWI happened, right?
And that joke is why your girlfriend is now pregnant
One thing that always surprises me in the US is the sneaker obsession. Especially NY. I’ll see well dressed people in a suit and then goofy ass sneakers. Looks awful.
“dress shoes” feel awful.
A well made pair of leather dress shoes will eventually mold themselves to your feet. It’s a different feeling to a sneaker, not fabric and foam rubber obv, but they can be super comfy. I’ve even got a pair of Frye boots I’ve had for like 20 years that feel tight when you first pull them on but then they’re just like a second skin, you forget they’re even there
I wear dress shoes with thick black athletic socks. They feel 1000x better. Who really looks closely at your socks anyway.
Bad dress shoes feel awful. When I used to wear them at a dresser job, I loved my Bostonians.
Really depends. They’ve dropped off in quality and there are better shoes, but for pure comfort, Cole Haan uses the same cushioned inserts as Jordans in some of their dress shoes.
They look like they’re wearing their dad’s suit.
Same company that sells a canvas tote bag for $1700. Must be legit!
Looks more like New Balanceiaga to me.
I will never understand chunky shoes. When I was young, people at school were picked on for having very big feet, getting called a clown or a t-rex or something.
Now it’s fashionable to wear shoes that are both oversized for your feet, heavier than they need to be, and make your feet look disfigured (not that I have anything against people with disfigured feet). What does having weird shapes on your feet achieve? Especially when the same people wear the same bland outfit-of-the-month as all of their fast fashion friends. Either lean into the avant garde or stay basic. You can’t pick both and pretend it’s cool.
All of western history people cared about how they look.
Now people just go out wearing some advertisement for some stupid company.
Self respect and respect for the community is gone.
Being concerned about what strangers think of you & your attire is the opposite of self-respect.
Mental take. Humans are fundamentaly are pack animals that are built for connection and community.
The most important thing about being human is working with others. Caring about what others think of you and you caring about them is of vital importance.
Depends, I would say it’s a show of respect
I’m aware other people are around and I’m going to present myself in a way that is un-offensive to those people. And not just other customers, but the staff as well
Does it matter at McDonalds? no, McDonalds is a pretty casual place where you would expect people to show in casual attire; be that pajamas because they’ve been being lazy all day, suits because they’re at lunch during work, or dirty clothes because they’ve been doing manual labor… whatever
But showing up to a nicer place in casual clothes basically says to everyone, “I have about as much respect for this place as I do Wal-Mart or McDonalds”; it can also say, “I don’t have much respect for myself” too. As in, “I’m too lazy to even put on clothes so I just walk around in my cookie monster pajamas”.
Oh my god, I actually laughed out loud at this lol
Oh damn, we Klaraposting around here? Based
I remember parts of this show being oddly dark. I’d watch a reboot that was all about America declining but with dinosaurs.
The ending was about as bleak as endings get.
NOT THE MAMA!!!
This Twitter channel is pretty racist btw.
ThisTwitterchannelis pretty racist btw.
FTFY
@ivanafterall Wait, so are they the baby, or are they not the baby?
Well I’ll tell you one thing, he’s not the mama that’s for sure.
Pretty sure there’s a cast iron skillet used a punctuation in there somewhere.
I used to never really care about fashion. Felt like a stupid status symbol. But I once went to a big city in east asia, and I was impressed by how nicely everybody dressed. Everybody felt like they complemented the environment, and I felt like I stook out like a sore thumb.
I feel like that’s an underappreciated side of fashion. Dressing up to fit the environment, to avoid ruining overall aesthetics. It’s less about the individual, more about the community. In this asian city I also noticed that people weren’t as loud and disruptive in public spaces. It feels like the same concept. You try not to make loud noises to disturb others, and you try not to dress so badly as to clash with the environment.
It really feels like a cultural difference between the east and west, and I feel like the west could learn a bit from the east here.
So if you’re going to a fine dining restaurant with ornate decor and chandeliers, dress up in fancy clothes. If you’re just walking around a popular spot in the city, casual is fine but look at how people are dressed around you and try not to clash. The goal isn’t to look amazing and draw attention, the goal is to avoid looking out-of-place.
dress not for validation but wear what you like and makes you happy (just dont go roaming about in your underwear)
that is the western philosophy, yes. The eastern philosophy is to care about your community and environment more, and to try to “fit in”
Lookin’ like Vic Mackey’s stunt dummy.
I’d dress however she tells me to.
Wait, this is about cars?
Kevin Clash, the baby dinosaur, or a Corvette-owner-shaped turd?
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Nobody dresses fancy anymore.
I was at the Plaza Hotel in New York a while back. One of the most expensive and storied places in the world, and pretty much every guest I saw had brought their clothes at The Gap.
sanpo@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Why would you dress up for a hotel?
When traveling “looking fancy” is the last thing I care about.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Nobody dresses fancy anymore.
Thank you for proving my point
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Plaza is more than a place to crash. There is the Palm Court and a number of bougee things going on there. I would argue that more that half of the folks using those hotel amenities are not staying the night. They’re there for special occasions.
Hackworth@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
I used to occasionally go to nightclubs in LA with some older guys that insisted on wearing nice, fitted suits. They actually bought me one when I first moved out there. If I was in a nightclub in my 20’s, it was usually cause I was working. So I don’t really have much to compare the experience to. But I’d say they were attention-getting - not necessarily in a good way. One dude tried to start a fight with me. And a girl I texted afterward was surprised to discover that I was, in fact, quite poor. That was a while ago. I have plenty of suits now. I never wear them. I guess nobody dresses fancy anymore.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
My personal theory is that it is a symptom of societal decay. People would dress nicely and look good when going out, so others would see and be impressed or attracted.
Now i have literally not worn anything else but different sweatpants for the last year or so, because i could not care less what other random passerbys perceive me as, since i am decidedly not interested in them either.
Nobody cares about real life impressions any more because the people that matter to them are in their phone. Friends and family are not necessarily in the same location as you, and romantic options are for the most part also in your phone now. Why brother looking good when potential partners are expected to judge you by your social media presence anyway and i’m just here for groceries.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah. We just realized that the people wearing suits all the time are villainous cunts. #finance
Zexks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I see it almost the opposite way. A lot of what you’re describing is exactly why I don’t put much value in dressing fancy or performing “respectability” for strangers.
Wearing a nice suit to the lodge once a week doesn’t make someone a good person. Plenty of people can dress up, look impressive in public, shake hands, say the right things, and then go home and be cruel, abusive, miserable, or drunk. I saw enough of that growing up to lose any belief that polished appearances are proof of character.
So when people stop treating suits, fancy clothes, and public image as moral signals, I don’t see that as societal decay. In some ways, I see it as growth. People are realizing that looking respectable and being respectable are not the same thing.
If anything, when I see someone using appearance, tradition, or status as a mask for behavior I don’t respect, it makes me want to be the opposite of what they stand for.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I would say not caring what strangers think of you is an enormous improvement.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
That makes a lot of sense.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
People get more ware of the shallowness behind it. Which is a good thing imo.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I was at a funeral recently where about 1 in 10 people were wearing cargo shorts or jeans, a graphic tee or a polo shirt, and sneakers.
Not that I think we should go back to dressing in powdered wigs and hose but I think there is room for clothing choices to mark an occasion
Okokimup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Depends on context. For my grandmother, I wore a black dress. For my boyfriend, a bunch of us wore replicas of his favorite tshirt.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I do not like NYC “dress code”. I went to a cocktail bar and they asked me to keep my jacket on because I had a t shirt. The cocktails were only $15-17. Not even fancy! Is my money worth less that I’m wearing jeans or a tshirt?
This is why I love Seattle. Everywhere allows tshirts and jeans no matter how fancy. I’m comfy and spending money.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
$15.00 for a cocktail??
I’m glad I don’t drink…
bridgeburner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Only 15-17$” Does everyone there has a 6 figure income or how can this bar survive lol
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m glad that pretending to be fancy is falling out of fashion. It’s extremely uncomfortable (save me the speech about how I need a well fitting suit or whatever, no thanks) and it’s expensive (very much in conflict with your claim below that it’s cheap to dress up. I’m not sure how you could possibly believe that). As someone who routinely dresses comfortably af, nothing was lost when people stopped dressing up randomly such as on airplanes. Being comfortable is very important to some people, especially those on the spectrum. I’ve got nothing to prove to people by being uncomfortable. I’ll keep wearing gym shorts on a plane and I literally feel for people wearing suits as I know how uncomfortable every aspect of it is.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wish I didn’t love wearing suits, but I do. I used to get to wear them for work and I never get to or have a good reason/excuse anymore.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It’s also too hot. Dress shirts that feel like the Boston Strangler has both his mitts around my neck, and that’s before the tie. Shirts that are 2XL wide but medium length that don’t fit my pre-human simian torso proportions. Pants that don’t conform to my pic-nic ham butt and my stumpy legs. Ridiculous suits with sewn shut pockets and buttons you can’t use and if you do you look like you’re about to turn into the Hulk. Shoes that blister and tear your skin in 10 minutes even though I can hike for 5 hours.
I dress borderline homeless now.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
https://www.dickies.com/pages/profession
I can get a collared business shirt for about $20, what I’d pay for a fancy T-shirt.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s apparently a local custom in Texas to go to a wedding dresses in blue jeans, a white shirt, your boots and whatever cowboy hat you wear. Meanwhile everyone else who doesn’t know what fucking a cow feels like is wearing at least a tie.
protist@retrofed.com 2 weeks ago
But there’s quite an array of options between “fancy” and “t-shirt tucked into jean shorts.”
TheHotze@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fancy is in the eye of the beholder though. In some places a polo shirt is fancy, in other places a western shirt. I think you want people wearing white button up shirts, slacks and nice dresses, but for some people it might be something completely different.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
They are guests, not on some kind of event.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I think one reason I noticed it was that there were photos on the wall showing all the famous guests who’d stayed there. All dressed up. It made no sense to me that people who are going to take the time and trouble to stay in a glamourous place wouldn’t try to look their best.
DaGeek247@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
And thank god for that too. The last thing I need is to worry about all the bullshit of dealing with clothes on top of everything else going on.
hexagon527@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
fancy? in this economy?
socsa@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Fashion is cringe and try hard. Intentionally slotting yourself into a wealth ranking based on some cloth and a watch isn’t the flex you think it is. All it tells me is that you can’t afford the next tier of clothing.
At least $18 sweatpants in an $800 hotel gives a bit of mystery.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I don’t have a problem with people resisting the societal pressure to wear expensive clothes, it’s just another way to separate the rich from the poor, but buying those clothes from predatory corporations like The Gap isn’t the proper solution. Thrift shops, Goodwill, Facebook Marketplace, etc.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Aight, the real question is “What were you wearing”.