Tone is an absolute bitch to convey properly over text, if you don’t add indicators it’s up to the reader to determine the tone you’re using. Miscommunication causes larger problems. Using lol helps indicate a lighter tone so people don’t think I’m pissed off or grumpy when I’m not
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DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
mimavox@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
yeah, I mean that’s why emojis exist in the first place.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
We use a form of speech from before emojis (:
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Millennials didn’t have emojis at first. You realize that, right!
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
But consider:
Emojis have no soul, and will never see the light of Heaven
Text based emoticons, meanwhile :) :( :3 :o Are God’s chosen tone indicator, animated with the breath of life
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Monte_Crisco@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
I’m afraid I’ve used “lol” so much for so many years that this is exactly how people will interpret my texts if I suddenly stop now.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
U ok? Did we upset you? You seem…tense.
icelimit@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I too am not sure how to interpret your message lol
mika_mika@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have been called weird or passive aggressive for using punctuation in my text messages. Why do we cater to these people? Why do I care about the opinion of someone who takes to heart whether I use an exclamation point or period at the end of a sentence? It should have been their problem to learn to not make assumptions.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Because you’re not following social conventions
It’s also up to you to learn to work with others, conversation is a cooperative game. If you don’t give enough signs, people don’t know the tone you are intending to give over text, because body language and verbal tone is missing. That’s the purpose of the informal conventions
It’s your problem to learn too
mimavox@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I perceive lol as slightly unserious / childish, but maybe it’s because I’m GenX
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m a Xennial? Born in 1980 so last year of Gen X, first year of Millennials?
I learned back in the early '90s that “lol” made my lighthearted comments appear lighthearted, and not cynical.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Go fuck yourself, lol.
Cordyceps@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
About to, lol.
9point6@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I feel this in my bones.
Scorpy’s gonna scorp. XD
A_Drusas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
rofl
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Lol, no.
Also this is millennial thing, not GenX. I don’t know anyone from that generation that would use lol.
restingOface@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Also this is millennial thing, not GenX.
Did someone say GenX? Or am I misreading your comment here?
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Yeah they did in response to a different comment elsewhere in t thus thread.
Klear@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
What I want… No. What I need is a browser extension that would change every “lol” on every page into a small picture of a TIE Fighter. It would make that flyby noise if you put your mouse over it and you could blow it up by clicking.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Someone who’s good at computer, please make! I’m going
zout@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Your comment triggered me to ask an LLM to create it, and it came up with something. I'm not going to test it though, so we'll never know if it works. I'd advise anyone not to try it. It gave links to an image and a sound file that gave a 404 error. LLM output:
Here’s a complete Firefox extension that replaces the text "lol" with a TIE Fighter image, plays a sound on hover, and changes the image on click.
🔧 Firefox Extension: “Lol to TIE Fighter”
- Manifest File (manifest.json)
{ "manifest_version": 2, "name": "Lol to TIE Fighter", "version": "1.0", "description": "Replaces 'lol' with a TIE Fighter image and plays sound on hover.", "permissions": [ "activeScript", "scripting", "https://example.com/*" ], "content_scripts": [ { "matches": ["<all_urls>"], "js": ["content.js"] } ], "background": { "scripts": ["background.js"] }, "options_page": "options.html" }- Content Script (content.js)
document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", function() { function replaceTextNodesWithImages() { const walker = document.createTreeWalker(document.body, NodeFilter.SHOW_TEXT, null, false); let node; while (node = walker.nextNode()) { if (node.textContent.includes("lol")) { const img = document.createElement("img"); img.src = "https://example.com/tie-fighter.png"; // Replace with your image URL img.style.width = "20px"; img.style.height = "20px"; img.style.display = "inline-block"; img.style.cursor = "pointer"; // Sound on hover img.addEventListener("mouseover", () => playSound()); // Blow up on click img.addEventListener("click", () => blowUp(img)); node.replaceWith(img); } } } replaceTextNodesWithImages(); }); function playSound() { const audio = new Audio("https://example.com/sound.mp3"); // Replace with your sound URL audio.play(); } function blowUp(img) { img.src = "https://example.com/blowup.png"; // Replace with a larger image or "none" img.style.width = "40px"; img.style.height = "40px"; }- Image and Sound Requirements
TIE Fighter Image: Replace the URL in content.js with a public domain image. Example:
TIE Fighter Image from Wikipedia
Sound Effect: Replace the URL with a .mp3 file hosted on your server. Example:
Sound Effect from FreeSound.org
🛠️ How to Use
Create the files:
manifest.json
content.js
Load the extension in Firefox:
Go to about:debugging in Firefox.
Click Add Extension and select the folder with your files.
Test on any website with “lol” text.
⚠️ Notes
Image/Sound URLs: Replace the URLs with your own hosted or public domain assets.
Performance: This script runs on every page, so consider optimizing for large sites.
Security: Ensure the image and sound URLs are secure to avoid errors.
This extension replaces “lol” with a TIE Fighter image, plays a sound on hover, and expands the image on click. Adjust the URLs to match your assets!
normalentrance@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It masks all the sadness in my heart, lol.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m sorry for your loss, move on, lol
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lots of love?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The lol has contextual meaning though. Sometimes it means “you fucking idiot” and sometimes it means “thats funny” and sometimes it means “i dont care” etc.
Janx@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Lol
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
true
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
Sometimes I have to catch myself because posting a plain “lol” can now be misinterpreted as aggressive lmao
So if I have nothing to say I’ll just go with “lollll”
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You can pry my lol from my cold dead fingers lol
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lmao, even
cobysev@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Elder (and just old) millennial here. I remember “lol” became a thing because cell phones became a common thing. Specifically, the old flip phones.
Texting on them was a pain. Imagine having to type words with only a number pad. And you only had a tiny digital screen that could only fit a few words on it. On top of that, we were sometimes charged by the character. Or sometimes by the word. Depended on your service.
Everyone was looking for the shortest way to type words and get their message across. So shortcuts like “lol,” “ily,” “wdym,” etc. became common use. As well as a variety of text emojis like :) :D :P or the fancy Japanese ones: (^^) (--;;) etc.
As someone who spent their childhood with their nose buried in books, it bothered me to see this shorthand English everywhere. It just felt lazy to me. To this day, I’ve never typed “lol” unless I’m talking about the acronym itself.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’d say they were already very common in online chatrooms long before cellphones were widely adopted. They just translated really well to the poor typing options, character limits, and per-message billing of the time so became more widely adopted (and some new shorthand created).
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Before us millenials had our own take at inventing initialisms and proto emojis…
Beepers. Pagers.
A fair number of different kinds of ‘codes’ became at least somewhat widely used as shorthand for more semantically complex things, and they had even smaller character limits.
Now I was like 5 when pagers were all the rage, so I have no personal experience with these, but this was arguably the gen x version of millenials who spent too much time on computers as children coming up with ‘gtfo’ and ‘lmao’ and ‘rofl’ and such.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Hold up.
I think that mobile phones became popular before chat rooms.
Chat rooms existed first, but I think that they were mostly just for nerds until the early to mid 2000s
lauha@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thank you for explaining this, lol
notabot@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Similar shorthand was used when sending telegrams, as they were charged by the character too.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
lol STOP lmao STOP
rarWars@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I’m Gen Z and I use lol as punctuation at the end of a sentence to indicate a lighthearted tone, just like a ? or ! indicate their respective tones. It’s very useful, and I think I’ll keep using it lol
It fills a similar niche to tone tags but somewhat less intrusive imo.
karashta@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
This has how it’s always been used as far as I have seen as an older millennial.
It’s an upbeat tone indicator. But it’s not the same as sending someone a smile with your text.
It fills a useful niche. Just like /s also does.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
But I really am laughing out loud. I am rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off. In a helicopter. A helicopter that goes swooshswooshswooshdwoosh.
icelimit@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Not aware of this helicopter stuff. What is that about? Lol?
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
ROFLcopter or Rolling on the floor laughing like a helicopter is when something is so funny that you fall you of your seat laughing and you start kicking yourself giddily around the floor in a circle like a helicopter rotor.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
I have a tendency to speak very blunt and directly about most things, so lol is absolute necessity for me online in order to not blatantly spread ragebait everywhere I go lol
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Life sucks, I’m poor, and everything hurts. Lol.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Don’t wanna, lmao
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
it’s like “over” on a radio lol
Gork@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
lol is the millennials version of over, lol
BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Can’t stop won’t stop lol.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 3 weeks ago
I’m gen X as all hell and I’ll say lol when I want lol.
zarathustrad@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I say lol for teh lulz.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I was once sitting next to a colleague in a group pod who sent us an e-mail ending with “lol”. I turned to my left and called him out on it because that dude was quiet as a mouse.
yakko@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Millennials not using lol in their messages is like a Brit not offering you tea
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah it’s a tone indicator “this may be taken as having a serious or upset tone, but wasn’t meant that way” though it also can mean “please don’t be upset” in the case of something like “sorry I disappeared for a bit, life happened lol”
A_Drusas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Excuse you, but it’s lol, no.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
There’s no comma there. They use it as punctuation at the end of a sentence:
e.g.: “I heard your mother died I’m sorry lol”
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Adding the comma actually makes it pretty passive aggressive, lol
A_Drusas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or maybe yesterday lol
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ROFLMAO never
synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The only person I know with the lol habit is American. No one else does that.
imjustmsk@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
shit I ain’t american nor a Millenial lol
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It’s still better than using “literally” in every sentence.
DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Lol, fuck this
this@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
lol. Yes it’s a sentence all by itself, it means nothing, lol.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I thought it was a little dude throwing a rave in emoji
brown567@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Lol, no
Soulphite@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Am millennial and have never once used that acronym. I always just type “haha” instead… haha
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Am millenial, I’ve use both lol and haha, since… I dunno, 1996?
I distinctly remember the first time I accidentally said ‘lol’ outloud, as a single syllable, at the end of a sentence.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Right haha, think the “lol” was gen x.
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Millennials were ABSOLUTELY all about the lols, I can assure you. It was the most widely used acronym everywhere (second being brb, I would wager).
We roflcopter’d and roflmao’d with the best of em! lol
Saapas@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
It’s pretty common with millenials at least
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I used/use it a lot, became the standard when I was on AIM.
Mostly I feel people use it for tone and switch between the two. Then again I also respond with k too often apparently and have had spouses bring it up to me. “I’m going to pick up hot dog buns on the way home” k is apparently not always the proper response to such things apparently.
K, lol, cool/kool, alright, nice, oh… Apparently make up a lot of what she calls my NPC responses.
It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that there really isn’t a reason for me to send a flushed out response while I’m in a rush and or trying to respond at a red light. I’ll see them soon, if i thought something else should be picked up at the store when they were there id either say so or call if I thought it warranted a quick discussion.
If I ask do you want tacos, sure is a perfectly valid response, we’ve shared a bed for 5 years… if I don’t know what you do and don’t like on a taco I wasn’t paying attention, if you want something you usually wouldn’t, then it makes sense to say more
UnpledgedCatnapTipper@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I’m a millennial and I use lol way too often to start or end messages
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But plenty of millennials did for sure. I’m 1987, was never a loler myself, but am certainly familiar enough with it.
And admittedly, I have used it. My buddy and I used to sit in his room playing red alert 2, and one of us would do something dumb and the other would type “lol,” and then look across the room with a straight face. So I always imagined someone typing lol to be doing so with a completely straight face, the complete opposite of laughing out loud.
Soulphite@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
1987 as well… i just never caught on to the acronyms.
BTW love RA
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
KIROV REPORTING KIROV REPORTING KIROV REPORTING
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
I tend to reserve haha for conveying mildly interesting observations in a nonthreatening manner
“You must be their best customer to know that, haha”
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Same.
haha is more polite/cordial, more passive and may indicate essentially nervous laughter
lol is more blunt/informal, more aggressive and may potentially indicate mockery
956@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I did “haha” up until somewhat recently. I started using lol sarcastically, and it quickly bled over into the haha usage. I can’t break the habit either….