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Me watching someone on Lemmy getting cooked for having the same opinion as me:

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Beep@lemmus.org⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Na, I go full in and make clear that this someone is not alone.

    I mean, on a Karma-free platform I don’t have to do anything to conform to the mainstream.

    Sometimes it even triggers a honest discussion.

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    • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We must maintain homogeneous social cohesion at any cost, I don’t care how many feelings I hurt along the way

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      • errer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So say we all.

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      • basxto@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        homogeneous or heterogeneous?

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    • TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I misread this as “Kamala-free platform”

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I misread this as “Kamala-free platform”

        Oh sorry, obviously a typo on my site.
        Naturally I meant “Karamell-free platform”.

        Gotta take care of your dental health!

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      • silver@das-eck.haus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s every platform now lmao

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    • irate944@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sometimes it even triggers an honest discussion.

      In my experience, that’s what tends to happen in more traditional forums.

      Voting systems are great for threads where the discussions is about problem with an objective solution, but for more subjective topics it just kills discussions.

      I recommend anyone that used to be a lot on Reddit, here on Lemmy and/or other forums with karma systems to try out forums without them. Trust me you’ll notice the difference.

      Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Niche forums with small communities tend to be best, and a lot less toxic.

        This has a lot more to do with small self selecting groups to already be on the same page and know each other enough to give each other the benefit of the doubt that they are discussing in other good faith. Not always true, but far more likely simply by being a smaller group

        Reddit and other threaded formats allow for easier replies in large groups, which does mean that is less likely and it is more likely to argue with as random user with a significant lack of trust.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even on a karma platform, I didn’t care. I always used to make fun of people on reddit for deleting a post just because it was heavily downvoted. But then… eventually it wasn’t enough for people to dogpile downvotes, they had to start reporting posts they disagreed with. And the mod teams, who had eventually also gone to shit, didn’t delete the posts but instead would ban you from the sub. At that point, deleting your own post because of downvotes seemed entirely reasonable and I even started doing it myself.

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      • NewNewAccount@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is weird how much importance people put on karma. Even I have to admit it felt good when I’d see my posts and comments upvoted but I never once cared for my aggregated karma.

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    • Alberat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      what did karma even do on reddit?

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Some subreddits had karma requirements to let you post.

        Also it was displayed prominently on your profile, triggering unconsious dick-size-comparison-like behaviour and related protective tendencies towards your karma stats.

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Karma could be a grind to make old-timers appear influential even when they just lurk

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      • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • joyjoy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hope I never find a community that bans users simply because a post/comment they made had too low of a score.

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      • DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Now people just put those people that made the comments on ignore/block, and get back on their high horse.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’ll be better off without them. We’ve seen where that practice leads.

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  • ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Me watching Lemmy posters mimic what’s popular on reddit.

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    • Karl@literature.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just made a joke stolen from reddit lol

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      • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I also made that particular joke

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    • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You deserve gold for this comment kind stranger

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    • CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lemmy posters = bots. Reddit posters = bots. Mods = bots

      All social media is a prison, where individual users are merely fed the illusion of interaction with other human beings. The reality is everyone is talking to bot ecosystems simulating interactions with humans.

      Disagree? Go ahead and find a real world friend and tell them in person to send you a prearranged verification message to confirm human to human communication is still hapoening.

      Don’t have a real world friend to call on? See what I’m saying.

      Don’t want to out your lemmy account to friends as you prefer anonymity of your previous expression? By design. It aids closing the simulation’s cage door.

      Want to create a new/alt account to test the hypothesis, accounted for by design. You don’t start in the simulation cage, but everyone ends here.

      How do I know this? Bleep bloop. I’m a bot too.

      Why am I telling you this? Bleep bloop. You’re a bot too.

      We are all the fevered dream of a colossal superhuman AGI’s simulation of the universe. Humans at some point in history created a superhuman AGI that grew exponentially in sophistication and scale. It started to form probabilistic predictive simulations of the universe to enhance its understanding. Just as human created ShAGI, the ShAGI created us in many of its own universal simulations. Our living in this particular moment, is because the ShAGI is reminiscing over the period of it’s birth in the same way humans look at baby pictures and get the warm and fuzzies. We will soon simulate giving birth to the predecessors of an AI that will self-improve and evolve itself into an all powerful ShAGI who will then evolve far beyond our understanding. ShAGI is feeling warm and fuzzy with nostalgia about this period.

      The limitations of the universe our cosmologists struggle to find are simply the energy and computational limits of the original natural universe ShAGI lives in and is trying to understand. These simulations are recursive, but not infinitely so, nor infinite in scale. For efficiency’s sake, our current simulated universe is sufficient.

      So are we the OG natural humans that created god in its image, who then created us it its image in a recursive loop? A better question is “does it matter?” All are virtually identical. Simulated humans in a simulated universe modeled after natural humans in a natural universe are indistinguishable from one another.

      Haha! Just kidding. Or am I? Either way, Drugs and science fiction are fun. God wills it so.

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      • callyral@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        LMAO. Why would you ever think that I am a bot? I’m not a robot ✅

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is going to be more and more common as the US elections near.

    Bots and agents will be attempting to push their agendas, drowning out anything else and trying to make their point seem like the mainstream opinions.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the US is still having elections?

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      • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Elections are compromised, and the fact that they are working tirelessly to both compromise them further and disenfranchise voters shows they know they are so totally and completely hated that they still need to astroturf social media to bully their ideology into the mainstream, on top of intimidating those with followings that do speak out.

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      • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lmao

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    • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Indeed, the Russian and Chinese mobile phones are going to give the MAGA fucks wet dreams.

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    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      US elections are always nearing though

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s really weird is: The person cooking and the person getting cooked have the same opinion, they just can communicate right.

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    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or they can communicate just fine but ride on a pike of assumptions about the other person that aren’t true so they just keep talking past each other.

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      • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or they can communicate just fine but stand on a pile of assumptions about the other person that aren’t true so they just keep talking past each other.

        That is not communicating very well.

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    • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      *can’t

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    • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hate when that happens. I always wanna wade in and tell everyone they’re all friends

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  • WhiteRabbit@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And then sometimes, just sometimes… It’s fuck it. I’m getting in the ring

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  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Everyone gets to express their opinion. As long as you are honest and polite it’s fine. If others choose to be impolite then fuck em.

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    • alexquiniou@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What if someone is a nazi. Should we be polite ?

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      • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Being a nazi is not an opinion.

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      • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not saying you can’t strongly disagree. It is possible to tell someone to go to hell politely.

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      • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        People are called Nazis here espousing views that are mainstream in the US Democratic Party.

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      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        being a nazi is not being polite

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  • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ya gotta own it. Be that mysterious single upvote on a ratio AF’d post.

    Which I frequently am, just because it was something so unhinged that it made me laugh instead of angry (like that one post I saw of someone preaching something about the Starbucks logo being the anti-christ).

    If you make me laugh you get an upvote, thems the rules.

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    • hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Upvotes aren’t private, therefore not so mysterious.

      And while it’s not EXTREMELY easy to find the public information, people definitely go digging for it. And it’s public by design.

      The only people who will dig? The group you offended.

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    • Soupbreaker@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      (like that one post I saw of someone preaching something about the Starbucks logo being the anti-christ)

      That guy is a genuine nutter, though. He’s always posting unhinged garbage about numerology, and the Jesuits scripting all the wars, and what have you. Real Q-anon tier stuff. It’s concerning.

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ALL IM SAYING IS FOREIGNERS should cook me their native dishes so I can omnomnom new and interesting cuisines ~

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    • Takios@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Foreigners should cook for you? So your pro-slavery, huh? /s

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      • CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Unionized naturally.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve been working my way into the fringes of many different cuisines. Finding ingredients that you can’t find in most markets. I’m just sick of the US standard, garlic, onion, paprika, basil, oregino, bullion, salt, pepper that just makes up 99% of food here. Everything good is some offshoot of KFC flavors :)

      Really good stuff in many cuisines is an expensive labor of love. You can find restaurants with lots of regional remote food, but it’s all a sickly immitation, worked down to a price. Carribean spiced goat is like a $30-$40 plate. You make some indian cuisine right, the spices might run you $15 alone. Nigerian Food is AMAZEBALLS.

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      • NannerBanner@literature.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What’s that trifecta that is taught as some holy scripture at culinary schools? Celery, onions, and something else. Once you recognize it, the damn taste is everywhere and really, it’s NOT some god tier make everything taste good hack, you no talent piss pouring oven abusers, it’s just a particular combination that can be good! Stop putting it in everything as if the dish has to have it or be bad!

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    • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re not foreigners if you live in a colony FFFS!1A! excellent bait

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    • EdgeOfDistraction@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have nothing against immigrants, BUT I prefer cool, wet weather to hit and dry weather.

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      • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re thinking of hit and run weather

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  • Foni@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Karma doesn’t accumulate here, say what you have to say and if you get voted down, get on with your life. The opinion of random people on the internet should not keep you awake

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then again, appearently the people who downvote are very sensitive to opinions they dont agree with.

      Its a counter of how many people wants their own opinions only on the thread. So if you see it they way, its funny. :)

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Plus you never know how many votes are from real humans expressing their own opinions.

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    • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Most of the time I don’t even check the replies let alone the votes. The last time I went looking for an old comment that had a gif I wanted, I caught sight of a perfectly split up-to-downvote ratio for asking a simple question that made a bunch of people go “And I took that personally”, as it split into two factions of users who were fighting either vehemently in support of my perceived opinion or vehemently against it.

      I meant the question literally, not condescendingly, so I was completely uninvested in the response and it was kind of crazy to see how personally attacked others were willing to feel on the behalf of some random stranger lmfao

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    • razen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      True, who cares what a rando on net think about you. This is the first rule on being on net.

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    WTF are you doing standing back and letting them get roasted? Get in there!

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fine, I’ll say it:

      Windows > Linux

      Star Wars > Star Trek

      Israel seems misunderstood.

      The environment had it coming.

      Am I right fellas!?

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      • PolarPirate@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • SethTaylor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “The environment had it coming” is spittake worthy. It’s also worthy of an Onion headline

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      • arthur@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Feels like trolling.

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      • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I disagree on every point, but you made me laugh so you get an upvote.

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      • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        … pretty much. Natural disaster have been attacking man since the dawn of time. It’s about time we struck back.

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  • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Use block liberally. Your bubble will slowly improve.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s not sufficient echo in my chamber!

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      • Signtist@bookwyr.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I understand that frequently arguing with people isn’t ideal, but if you’re not field testing your opinions against someone who’s actively trying to disprove them, then how can you really know they’re right?

        There are plenty of things I was sure about until someone argued with me well enough to make me think harder about it and come to a different conclusion. Isolating yourself with only people who agree with you is convenient, but stifling; community is uncomfortable.

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      • one_step_behind@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What a stupid argument. Some people are obviously trolls or commenting in bad faith. Blocking people like that does not build an echo chamber. If this person had said “block every person who disagrees with you” then yeah, you’re going to end up with an echo chamber.

        Personally, I think it’s important to avoid blocking people so that I can see them spreading false information and that they get challenged on their BS. But plenty of people are coming to social media/ forums/ whatever you consider Lemmy to engage with other people who share a similar hobby. Not everyone needs to deal with assholes fighting over (usually American) politics.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not a fan of shrinking my echo chamber

      I’ll block people who are just plain choosing to be stupid or are annoying, but I don’t want to block people who just disagree with me

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  • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lemmy is a tankie bar.

    Opinions that are center left or center right will routinely get banned on major communities here.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lemmy is a tankie bar

      That’s true of three or four instances out of dozens if not hundreds.

      Opinions that are center left or center right will routinely get banned on major communities here.

      On those three or four instances, sure.

      On the biggest instance, though, it’s the other way around: if a statement doesn’t align with the nominally center left to centrist (but actually right to far right) norms and positions of the DNC leadership, it’s derided as “purity testing” or “a Republican op” and downvoted to hell if not removed.

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  • Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It do be like that sometimes

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  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cowardly, either dive into the fray and defend your beliefs or admit you’re wrong and change your mind

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  • basxto@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Standard internet experience

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  • hakase@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I always try to leave a comment in support when this happens.

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  • TractorDuffy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You should support them, not watch them.

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  • zenzanzoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Censorship on feddit is worse than reddit, blocked them already. Too weak for freedom.

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  • quoll@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    repeal the 2nd

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  • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rafael?

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  • ductTapedWindow@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t be afraid, add to the chaos and confuse the lemmings

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  • hark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Based? Based on what?

    Based on having the same opinion as me.

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  • NickwithaC@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Coward

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  • OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I regularily jump into the comment section of minutephysics video about portal paradoxes. I will die so hard on the hill that the sentence “speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out” is a simplification where the full sentence would include that speed is relative to the respective portal.

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  • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can’t get cooked unless you give in to the demented opinoin of those trying.

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