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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ickplant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨28⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I thought these were guitar hero screenshots at first

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  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Broad conclusions for a study conducted on a population of ~500 undergrad students at a single religious university in one city of one state of one country.

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  • callyral@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I look mostly at the ground to avoid stepping on dog poo.

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    • ThunderComplex@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah I’m a hard ground starer too. But def scanning periphery when not looking down. Especially at night when it’s most dangerous but I’ve always avoided going outside at night as much as possible.

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  • bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not buying that heatmap data. Why are almost all the dots on the left red? That would mean that women pick a random spot and focus on that for an extended period of time before moving on to the next. This is not really how you’d investigate a scene. The right images are much more believable to me: Short glances at random points to get an overview of the scene and then re-investigating points of interest.

    I am a man, though. Women: Do you really stare random points into oblivion?

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Considering how common and easy eye tracking is, this seems like some shitty science.

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      • wedge@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Study designed around a conclusion using a borderline invalid method.

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      • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Shitty science at BYU? Surely not!

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      • AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        whaaaat surely BYU, the school that claimed to have done cold fusion, is an upstanding pillar of academic research

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      • Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This would be the perfect use case for that fancy Apple VR headset they released a year or two so. Since it has built-in eye tracking, it would be easy to set up a test in a controlled environment where participants navigate it while looking around.

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      • III@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I feel like utilizing eye tracking would be used if they were to study this concept more deeply. That data would be more complicated to sift through given how much data and how many variables might come into play. Definitely more telling but also harder to analyze.

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    • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      [researches] asked [participants] to click on areas in the photo that caught their attention.

      Then the different-colored dots make even less sense. And why are there fringes?

      Seems like a seriously flawed study, doezn’t it, asking people to point to what’s interesting is NOT AT ALL the same as tracking their eyes.

      We could actually track their eye movement by using special glasses. Just call your study what it actually is, ffs… don’t confuse the data.

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    • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      …also, it has to do with attention on photos rather than real world going home experiences.

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    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As a woman, imagining situations like those: I can see the brightly lit center is empty, that’s all I need to know about it. The stairs require several glances especially if I’m in heels or other unstable shoes. But those dark corners need checking and rechecking the whole time I’m walking, to be sure no tiny changes betray a lurker. Who is probably going to wait until they’re at my back to make a move.

      My mental image of the guys scanning the same image: “Yeah that’s where I’m going, that’s obviously where I’m looking.” Sure, they could get mugged but it’s less likely, and physical threat isn’t on their mind.

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      • bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        My point wasn’t that women aren’t looking at the surroundings, but that they don’t do it as is portrayed in the image. You said it yourself: “checking and rechecking the whole time” That doesn’t match singular hotspots, but rather a more spread-out heatmap with peaks at certain positions.

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    • III@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not buying that heatmap data.

      In the article they note that they participants were shown photos and told to click on areas that caught their attention. The results show that women paid more attention to the periphery. No eye tracking, no long focus.

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    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t it like a video game, where you look to where people might be hiding?

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  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t trust Mormon findings until they are peer reviewed.

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    • butternuts@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Until you learn the peers reviewing are more Mormons.

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  • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Why can’t we live in a world where women don’t have to think about these things? It’s heartbreaking to hear of things women close to me have dealt with,” Chaney said. “It would be nice to work towards a world where there is no difference between the heat maps in these sets of images. That is the hope of the public health discipline.”

    I’m not convinced this phenomenon would disappear in a world where women don’t have to think about these things. It could be an evolutionary psychology thing. Would have to repeat the experiment in different societies and environments to find out.

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  • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As a somewhat paranoid person, you better believe I ain’t looking just straight ahead, even as a man. You never know who is nearby, waiting to confront you for any reason.

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  • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t be looking at any of that, where’s the smartphone showing dumb memes?

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  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    TIL i’m a woman

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    • ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵

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  • redknight942@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Alright yall, experiment time.

    Go bird watching. Or squirrels. Something hard to spot that moves quickly.

    Scan the treeline, or instead fixate on a point straight ahead. Do what comes naturally first, then the opposite. What method “spots” the motion first?

    See what method works better for you. Hope it helps!

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    • Malfeasant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I ride a motorcycle… When I was doing the MSF training (after riding illegally for years), I kept getting dinged for not turning my head to look into a turn. Thing is, I have excellent peripheral vision. I can see 90° to either side when I’m looking straight ahead - so I tend to keep my gaze straight ahead regardless of where my attention is…

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  • MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Men are better at detecting motion. I would bet men are better at detecting motion in their perephiral vision too.

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    • FinalRemix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Right… peripheral vision in general is better at motion, but shit for details. It’s why sacchads happen seemingly at random; often something is signalled in the periphery, so the individual glances in that direction.

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s why I can never find anything and have to ask my girlfriend for help. I’m bad and scanning the periphery.

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, a man who scanned the periphery would come across as shifty (“what’s he looking for? is he some kind of voyeur or predator? he’s not staring at that girl’s tits, is he, the creep?”), so looking straight ahead is kind of like keeping one’s hands where everyone can see them. Though granted the absence of likely threats would also have an influence.

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Was going to say nearly the same. We’re conditioned to always fabricate a guise of confidence and the body language you give off ‘scanning the periphery’ comes off as the opposite of that.

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  • bagsy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Men and women also navigate differently. Men navigate tend to by direction and women tend to navigate by landmarks. I suppose looking around helps to find those important landmarks.

    I always wonder if women were the gathers becuase of how they navigate and look around, or were women the gathers becuase they could navigate by landmark and tend to look aound alot?

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  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I must be a woman cause I too am always looking around. But I get why women have to do this. Same reason they rather run into a bear in the woods rather then a man. It’s fuck up but just proves as a collective us men need to do better.

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  • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This could also be evolutionary… Imagine 2 cavemen walking through a forest. The woman scans the periphery while the male focuses ahead. It may be an evolutionary thing.

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