If you leave your cart in a parking space, you’re sub-human
You’re passible if you take it to the corral
But a truly good human will stack the carts into proper rows if the carts are loose in the corral
What's your test for people?
Submitted 3 weeks ago by LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to memes@sopuli.xyz
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Godort@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I firmly believe in the validity of the Shopping Cart Test. On a related and depressing note, my little city is overrun with errant shopping carts.
Zikeji@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I have a clip from my dashcam floating around somewhere of me stopping, jumping out of my car, then hauling ass to catch someone’s runaway cart moments before it hit a parked car. Honestly one of my proudest moments.
On the opposite end, I once left a cart (on a curb) and it haunted me. To be fair, it was absolutely storming outside and I was chilled to the bone and just wanted to warm up…
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
- I used to work at a supermarket and preferred returning carts to other tasks, and got paid hourly. When someone returns the cart, they’re doing that hourly work for the store owner for free. Since time is rival, you could be more effective with your altruism than helping store owners.
- You’re depressed because there’s so much homelessness, right?
potoo22@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Apparently I’m a truly good human because my organizational autism trait gets triggered. I’m not even annoyed fixing them. It’s just satisfying to see them in order.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I do have some caveats for this. As my parents both park in handicap, we’ve noticed that the cart corrals are super far from the handicap spots and I won’t blame someone who already has trouble walking half way down the parking aisle to a corral.
I do tend to take the random carts from the parking lot in to use for shopping when I see them though. No reason to take one of the ones already brought back.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
The exception is the handicapped area. When I drive my 80 something mother, we park in a handicapped spot, and I get out and grab the nearest cart for her. She uses that like a walker to get to the store. When we get back to the car, and she gets in, I leave the cart near the handicapped spots for the next person. I have often seen others do the same thing.
We parked the other day, and there were no carts nearby, so I went and got one for her. She could have made it into the store with just her cane, but she would have been slower, and not as confident.
So leave a cart or two in the handicapped zone. The handicapped folks have already worked out their own system that the normies don’t know about or understand. It’s a Geezer Thing.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This comment section is a nice mix of “I’m a waiter, please don’t do this, you’re making my job harder” and “I always do this to make the waiters’ lives easier”
TeddE@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Checking in at 23 hours - I count one comment to this effect, but even there the caveat is ‘but only if you do it wrong’
HollowNaught@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As a waiter, I’ve never had a customer stack their plates correctly for me
Don_alForno@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Waiters have told me to please not stack the dishes because it messes with their carrying technique.
thevoidzero@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes. If you do it incorrectly then there’s food on the bottom of the plates now and they can’t shuffle it to their preference anymore.
2Geechi@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
My dad gets legitimately angry when I do this. Boomers are a different breed
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think it’s an age thing, more of an empathy test. I’ve been a dishwasher, maybe that’s why I tidy up.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I’ve owned a restaurant, and once you’ve done that, you’ve been the dishwasher, janitor, toilet plunger, punching bag, robbery victim, etc.
After all that, you tend to lose that sense that some jobs are below you. You just see it as work that has to be done, and you’re standing there, so it might as well be you, so get it done.
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, my boomer uncle told me it was low class after he watched me do it. When I was a waitress at the time. Fuck him and that mentality - I do it to this day and make into 6 figures
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Impressive. Employ a buncha seasoned techniques ‘n’ tactics during service? Influence by Dr. Cialdini had some, (including one that was essentially dishonest), but one more normal one like this:
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
That’s bizarre to me.
TeddE@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Too many people see life as a zero-sum game with a one-dimensional ranking. To them, success is defined as the number of people of people you’re better than. Worse, many people go by pass/fail,as in “they’re one of the good ones” (popular with bigots everywhere)
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
My dad gets legitimately angry when I do this
I think it has to do with “putting the waiters out of their job”. Like, when you do a part of the job for them consistently, the restaurant manager will eventually notice that and realize they can do with a little bit less staff. So they hire fewer waiters, which means potential waiters face a tougher job market.
MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
When I was a server I hated when people stacked their own plates. First off, I found it performative. Secondly it messed with my system. Thirdly it usually produced a 20lb pile of dishes covered in queso, half eaten burritos, and guacamole that was impossible to carry.
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Yeah man. I don’t stack anything, not because I don’t want to help, but I don’t want to mess with your system. Waiting isn’t as easy as it seems and I absolutely have no idea how to do it, so I don’t want to interfere. I prefer to sit awkwardly and pretend that me leaning back as much as I can to make more space is equally helpful.
marzhall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Huh, me mum was a waitress at one point and taught me to stack for politeness, I didn’t realize it was a preference thing. Now I’m not sure what to do.
I’ll still keep ordering the queso though, that shit’s delicious.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
bussed tables for years; what are you doing clearing tables as a server?
I liked it when people stacked their shit up, it shaves a few seconds off me doing it before I dumped it in a tub.
As far as food issues - well yeah if they’re some kids acting like cretins pouring shit all over that’s a problem but what’s that got fuck all to do with the stack?
I find your hate performative to be honest.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Okay, fair enough. How about putting eventual food, that has not been eaten, on the top plate (and in general making sure the plate is not completely dirty)
tetris11@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
This. Heard the same from a waiter friend a while back. Since then, I do nutsack
MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nutsack is preferable.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This and the shopping cart thing share the theme of consuming with less cost to the business owner, but with no actual difference (or making it worse) for the employees. Their boss will use all of their time no matter how much work they do. You aren’t saving them work; you’re saving the boss’ money.
If you decline to go into a business near closing, then you’re my kind of people. If you tip highly you’re my kind of people. If you order clearly, concisely, and politely you’re my kind of people.
But while you’re pushing Sisyphus’ boulder up the hill, he just has to go find another boulder.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
So if the carts stack up outside, the cart guy has to go outside in the rain, slush, whatever. If they don’t, he can stay inside for longer.
It gives him more time to dick around doing nothing.
Waiters also get some waiting around time. If they don’t, they have to run everywhere. Why wouldn’t you want them to have more breathing room?
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You just failed the test
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I just lost the game!
bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
That’s assuming the boss won’t give the employees shit for not able to finish enough work in a day.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Anecdotally that was my experience when I worked at a restaurant and later a grocery store. They had no idea how much total work there was; they’d just keep us working.
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
My wife and I do this, but I’ve always wondered whether I’m actually helping or just creating a different kind of inconvenience by not organizing them in a beneficial way.
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s helpful! But don’t put trash inside the cups - this can be annoying to empty
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I thought this to be common courtesy everywhere?
potoo22@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
It *can* be seen as rude, depending on the culture. Like, “I did your job for you because you took so long”. More often in “high class” settings, like places that need reservations weeks in advance.
But most of the time, people just don’t care to assist the waiters and most waiters will appreciate it.
brambc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I really never liked tables that did this, in the restaurants I worked we observed oldschool etiquette… as long as someone is still enjoying their meal, we don’t clean up and if you do, I’ll asssume you just lack education.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
So far I manage to avoid “high class” most of my life 😁 And at best we’re two people, I guess I can’t do much wrong stacking two plates or so. But if that’s seen as rude, OK. Can’t know beforehand, but would assume most waiters are fine with it. If not, I’m not a psychic and just try my best to be polite. Can’t please everyone.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Common courtesy is much too uncommon to be called common
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
That’s sad. And that’s coming from a misanthropist that can’t stand his own species. Doesn’t mean I mustn’t be polite to them.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
And what’s that say about common sense?
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I may tidy up. But I don’t stack. I won’t even stack at my house, I hate touching the dirty bottom of a plate.
ngdev@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
the server and busser will 100% stack them and grab them by the edges of the plates to keep their hands clean, plates generally arent 100% level surfaces and fully covered in gravy so the issue youre imagining doesnt exist
rbos@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
As long as you don’t overstack it. Make a tidy stack that can be carried easily with one hand securely. If you eg put utensils between plates you can cause an accident.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My family would get upset if you did that or if the server came by and offered to take the empty plate away. Why yes one of them is named karen. How did you guess.
jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I usually have a pack of gum and I deliberately start a pattern on how I take pieces out. Usually it’s from left to right, emptying a full row before I move on to the next.
My test is to offer them gum and see where they pick from. Will they recognize a pattern and continue it? Or will they be oblivious?
Either way, it’s not a measure of good or bad. It’s just a fun lil test.
answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
you want me to work for you, pay for everything, and tip you?
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My test is mostly how do they treat my visibly disabled husband. Who also is older than me and looks it. I don’t like being treated like I’m his nurse. I understand why they might think daughter so I’m ambivalent towards that. A lot of people are short and snippy with him because he’s harder to understand and that gets me upset.
rumba@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
My boomer mother did this. My boomer father was indifferent.
I do this.
For the record, the only things that get stacked are things that are perfectly stackable, I don’t put a plate on top of a half-eaten cheese steak or leave utensils in the middle.
Cataphract@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Just wanted to put in a counter for what a lot of people are saying in here, if you’re looking for a “perfect-clone friend” right out the gate then prepared to be lonely as your tests fail… not because they’re horrible people, but because they’re a different person with different experiences.
The person litters (like @tiramichu@sh.itjust.works suggested)? Probably see’s their entire family litter constantly and never gets comments or maybe even once got reprimanded for saying not to litter to an elder. Just ask them not to when they’re in your vehicle, take into account their reaction and maybe have a conversation about it? (personal experience, just let me friend know it was lame and he stopped doing it. But now his vehicle is a roaming trashcan so I guess take what you can get)
You can be friends with people who are different or were raised differently than you, it’s actually super beneficial! Now if it’s a constant argument or it’s turned into a negative experience every time and communication isn’t working… it might be useful to move on for everyone’s sake at that point.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
What do you do with your shopping cart when you are done? Do you just leave it to fend for itself in the sea of the parking lot? Or do you do the right thing and bring it back inside or to the cart corral.
The REAL REAL sign though? When someone brings a cart from the parking lot into the store to shop with, ultra move.
usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You’d fail my test if I learn you have tests for people.
Maybe it’s just a matter of phrasing, but the idea that I could be kind to our server all night, tip well, generally hit it out of the park, but be disproportionately judged for failing to do this one small thing because it’s your personal test? Sets my social anxiety off enough that if I knew that were on your mind I’d probably just say we’re not compatible.
Obviously, keep an eye out for shitty people, and don’t put up with bad behaviour, but also judge people as people, wholistically.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
My test for people is dressing plainly, by which i mean, not excessively well. I wear simple and plain clothing and have a plain appearance.
In my opinion, jewelry and cosmetics and all that are all very problematic. The whole feminism movement is largely about the fact that women don’t want to be objectified, but then they objectify themselves, i argue. By wearing makeup, you’re making yourself a “pretty thing”, one whose superficial appearance is judged, which is arguably more problematic than helpful. Like, if you’re a woman and talking to a man and you’re overly pretty, you subconsciously think that they only talk to you because you look pretty, and that makes you suspicious of them and a little bit angry, which hinders the discussion and makes honest exchange of opinions a bit more difficult. If you dress plainly, don’t wear makeup, earrings or any of that, then you can’t think that they’re only interested in your superficial appearance that they’re interested in, so that means they talk to you because of your personality, which i think puts you in a better mood and makes the talking more worth-while. It leads to higher-quality exchanges.
ulterno@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
If it’s a self service place, I tend to look around if there is a place to keep the dishes (kinda like SubWay has).
Otherwise, I don’t stack. Waiters can have different ways of taking the dishes and those ways are usually based on all the dishes being random-access. I’d rather do nothing, than stack it the wrong way.don@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
For the first time, I feel seen.
jobbies@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I mean, you could stack your dishes but still be a rapist or murderer.
danhab99@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
The definition of bigotry is someone who’s behavior is a function of what they know about you. If people change their behavior to treat me better or worse because they learn (for example) that I’m gay then I don’t want them at all.
snooggums@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
I stack the plates to make room when boxing up food. It gets stacked in the way I would want to carry with the largest and cleanest ln bottom for stability and forks/utentils on top. Don't generally do more than 3 plates in a stack because they might want to rearrange.
RaoulDuke@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My mom does this. She has major ocd.
DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
My ex wife always refused to put her shit in the bin at McD’s on the basis that someone was paid to do it.
No. Someone was paid to wipe the table down, not pick up your shit.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
When I lived in San Francisco, self-bussing was the norm. Here in Sacramento even the cafe wait staff look at me like I am crazy, unless I’m in a coffee franchise like Starbucks or Peets.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
You’re all my people. Well, most of you.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
My test is the classic shopping cart test, for those who don’t know its a test based on if someone returns a shopping cart. Its a societal benefit that is not aknowlaged and requires minimal effort. You wont be punished if you dont return it yet you’re being an asshole.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
As a former waiter, I have a counterpoint:
Thus, you’ve created work for me.
Thankfully I haven’t been a waiter in - oh look! - 30 years.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Plus if you hand me a messy stack, I now have to leave the table with it. If I can arrange food waste and cutlery on my own, I can carry way more
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
But I put the cutlery up top, so it’s not wobbly at all.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Wait do people really just stack them with all the cutlery scattered throughout the tower?
HollowNaught@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, but most waiters won’t even put the cutlery on top of the stack. They’ll usually have the main stack on their forearm, while having a separate plate held in their hand. This single plate has all the cutlery, and it’s pinned down by their fingers
By putting all the cutlery on top, it’s much more likely for them to fall when walking around
taiyang@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My wife used to wait tables and we generally eat or box everything, so I’m pretty confident she’s right to pre-bus (and even wipe the table a little while waiting for check).
My only personal analogy is bagging groceries; self service shows how typical people have no idea, while an experienced bagger does. I saw a guy literally put eggs in the bottom of their bag. I can’t imagine how terrible their pre-bussing must be.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
sheepishly telling the cashier thanks cuz my bag Tetris is no good
marduk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Yeah, I originally thought I was being nice until I heard this exact sentiment from another server. I try not to make a ridiculous mess and tip at least 20% for good service
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m a former chef, so I’ve seen what happens when these best intentions go poorly.
Stack neatly and in manageable heights. If you leave utensils and food between the plates: you’re not helping. Scrape remnants on to one plate and leave it at the top of the stack with the utensils.
Also, tip well. At least until we get the radical changes in labor law that would prevent these ratfucking cokehead “Chef”-Owners from paying the dirt wages that makes people live and die by their tips.
Psythik@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well luckily for you I have restaurant industry experience, so I already know how to stack them the right way.
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Yep instead I pass things out of reach, look the waiter in the eyes, comment on how hard they’re working and chat to them. Just treat them like they’re human
jqubed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I almost never had a table stack their stuff the way I wanted. Just make sure your spot is tidy, easy to grab, and there are no surprises like silverware or a tiny dish wrapped inside a napkin. Definitely don’t stick a paper napkin inside your cup that still has a drink in it. By the time it gets back to the dish station it will have turned into a paste someone has to dig out and will be cursing you!
Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I always prebus. If i don’t know how to stack funny dishes then I leave them in small piles by type with cuttery on the top of what makes sense.
Takes less than 5 seconds for a stack / pickup with a nod to the busser.