Again, who’s recreating Twitter screenshots really badly, and why? There’s a person on Reddit with like five alts who’s been spamming these posts, and I’m so confused by it.
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anas@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lemmisaur@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
The entire picture looks completely fake like somebody tried to create a twitter screenshot from scratch in paint.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
You should be able to do a near perfect job in any image editor. They make kits that have all the assets already built.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
This post literally has the watermark of the account that creates/posts these. Other people or bots are reposting them, sure, but they’re coming from some kind of aggregation account that has this particular style of recreating Twitter threads in a space that fits into the Instagram preference for square images.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 months ago
Bots building histories.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
I’m pretty sure its crafted rage bait to get women angry at men and men angry at women. Its constant on reddit. The conversion is probably a decade old at this point if its even real in the first place.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
this shit looks like ms paint
theneverfox@pawb.social 2 months ago
I hate the mansplaining accusation, especially in this context
Fucking let ideas compete. Call him out for being pedantic. If you have to bring gender into nearly any conversation about science, you’ve already lost
Just shame them with better science
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 months ago
The mansplaining thing in this context is more about an unfounded assumption of ignorance in the other party. Usually one would assume an astronaut to know basic thermodynamics, but the tweet's phrasing implies the other other person doesn't. It's less "you're wrong" and more "why do you think she doesn't know that."
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A lot more people than that astronaut are going to see the post reply, though. A lot of them probably haven’t taken a thermodynamics lesson.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
In this case, though, he’s literally wrong. “Spontaneous” has a precise scientific definition and the astronaut is using it correctly.
plyth@feddit.org 2 months ago
unfounded assumption of ignorance in the other party
That’s the joke. Haha, stupid astronaut, you are supposed to know.
It’s obviously too early to make that joke with an astronautess.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The term “mansplaining” is not just about a man being pedantic. It is a man being pedantic or overexplaining to a woman either about something she is likely more knowledgeable on than he is or about something that is such common knowledge it should be assumed that she knows these facts as well as he does. It is a demonstration of misogyny through the assumption that you, a man, knows better than her, a woman, despite all liklihood to the contrary and yet you condescend to her anyway. It’s the arrogance and gender bias that is the problem, not the pedantry itself.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The thing I don’t like about the mansplaining accusation is it makes lots of men out to be sexist/misogynistic when they are really just pedantic twits that very well could have commented the same stupid thing to a man. But because it was to a woman someone has to accuse them of being sexist too.
Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of sexist assholes, but just assuming it to be the case off a single comment irks me.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
everyone knows that.
you just explained very common knowledge to people that certainly know it.
the problem is the terminology…
men and women condescendingly explain shit to people all the time. If you attach the word “man” to it then you’re being sexist.
when a man is condescending to a woman because she’s a woman, then that man is being sexist.
if you assume every time a man is being condescending to a woman they’re being sexist, then you’re sexist.
every time ANYONE makes a factual claim on the internet and it gets enough traction, someone will chime in and condescendingly explain why they’re wrong. gender is not the only factor.
….
it’s certainly terrible how men are sexist and condescending towards women so often… making a new sexist term doesn’t help that problem.
also, i’m not assuming your gender and you don’t know mine, i am merely disagreeing with you.Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
through the assumption that you, a man, knows better than her
And what’s the evidence that this happened here? You just assumed he was sexist.
yarr@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Did you just mansplain mansplaining!?
When will men learn to stop trying to share information?!
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
You got me in the first part
I hope this is sarcasm though
giantripdrop@piefed.social 2 months ago
I just saw a person in a suit, the. read the "mansplaining" comment, the. went back and saw the posters name.
It feels so forced or I am just oblivious. I thought the response was an asshole being an "acktuallllllly" response.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Is there a better term for it?
I feel like mansplaining as a word is similar to feminism as a word. It has assumption of gender rooted into it but its gone past that at this point.
Nelots@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I doubt people would like the word feminism being used if it inherently painted women as sexist.
Baked86@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He’s just trying to combat misinformation, the gall to accuse someone of sexism after being wrong is staggering.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
She wasn’t wrong though. It does happen spontaneously in that it is happening without apparent external cause. There is an external cause, the change in pressure, but it is not apparent. And most people are aware that water boils at low pressures at room temps. He even said it was “basic thermo”, so of course a NASA astronaut would know about this basic scientific phenomenon, as would most people.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Do you honestly believe that the astronaut doesn’t understand how boiling water works?
firewyre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This!!!
ftbd@feddit.org 2 months ago
He’s not being pedantic, he’s just obviously not familiar with the vocabulary used in chemistry (although he pretends to be).
theneverfox@pawb.social 2 months ago
No he’s making a specific type of joke, but if he were wrong then say that instead
And if you want more of that type of joke, look up not ken m
Gladaed@feddit.org 2 months ago
It’s Kev M.
theneverfox@pawb.social 2 months ago
What happened to Ken M?
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Ken M has smooth skin
Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
- Water in space boils, freezes or evaporates?
- Yes
OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2 months ago
Triple point moment.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 months ago
Water is a triple threat in space?
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“Spontaneous” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It doesn’t take a lack of understanding of the word to arrive at the guy’s conclusion. It just takes an autistic reading of the word “water”. Water WILL boil in those conditions. Just like we don’t say water “spontaneously” boils when heated up in a kettle even though it’s the exact same thing happening.
So in the abstract, the guy is correct. Though, there is also a bottle of water in the picture, and when discussing which specific water will boil, it’s a guessing game, hence “spontaneous”. “Spontaneous” totally works for discussing the water in the picture.
logicbomb@lemmy.world 2 months ago
One of the things that “spontaneous” doesn’t mean is “without cause”. Also, the astronaut doesn’t mention the water in the picture. She mentions water generally.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This guy seems to think it’s equivalent to “by magic”.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I hope she brought enough tampons
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
For those who don’t get the joke:
Sally Ride, first female NASA astronaut to go to space: "I remember the engineers trying to decide how many tampons should fly on a one-week flight; they asked, “Is 100 the right number?”
“No. That would not be the right number.”
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, the 10 ish day long mission that recently took 9 months happened, actually with a woman on board. If you said “100 is too much lol” and opted for 10, you’d be laughing out the other side of your face when you started having to improvise sanitation supplies after month three.
ronigami@lemmy.world 2 months ago
People say the same thing to other men. Is it mansplaining then too?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, Men do it to each other all the time too. Though the sociological context makes it much less difficult to manage, as there isn’t the cultural tendency to dismiss other men when they imply they have an understanding of a field that is perceived as typically male-exclusive (hard sciences, mechanics, etc.). It’s a term to describe a complicated and fairly important topic that has unfortunately become a buzzword for people to reject because it’s been characterized as criticism based on a fundamental aspect of a group (being male) and not as it’s intended, as a comment on a specific person’s behavior.
cmhe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, it is. The act of mansplaining isn’t gender specific. It is about trying to raise someone’s status above someone else by nitpicking.
drath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Didn’t notice it was a woman at first, but isn’t it an appeal to authority? The fact that someone is an astronaut doesn’t mean they can’t also be a dumb fuck. Just look at Russians - Oleg Artemyev, Tereshkova, Rogozin. I’m not familiar with NASA astronauts but surely some of them were also complete idiots as well?
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The fact that someone is an astronaut doesn’t mean they can’t also be a dumb fuck. Just look at Russians
Did they teach you that in school? The same school where they taught you Sally Ride was the first woman in space?
I’d say being an astronaut pretty much negates being dumb as fuck, especially in the early days.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The guy is clearly “mansplaining” though.
Is there a gender neutral version of mansplaining?
Gladaed@feddit.org 2 months ago
It’s a pedantic take that makes sense and is fun. It relies on spontaneous having multiple meanings.
A spontaneous person randomly does weird things. A spontaneous occurring change happens without the environment promoting it.
There is no man’s planning. This is willful ignorance to enable a joke.
firewyre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He’s right tho, so…?
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You should look up the definition of boiling.
BussyCat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It says in textbooks that in a vacuum water will spontaneously boil so arguing that it’s not spontaneous is wrong.
It happens as pressure decreases but unlike conventional boiling where you can see nucleate boiling it can instead happen all at once without you adding heat to the system
Most importantly he’s trying to argue semantics with a person who is much smarter than him and then ends it with a condescending “simple thermo”.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Large airplane flies overhead.
teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But is he wrong?
backgroundcow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Spontaneous boiling is the scientifically correct term, so, yes, he is wrong for correcting her.
affiliate@lemmy.world 1 month ago
yeah she may be a nasa astronaut and everything, but probably still doesn’t know as much as i do about boiling water. (i have cooked lots of pasta)
pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 2 months ago
People love to be pedantic as an “own” because they think it makes them look smart. And a lot of the times it actually works / is rewarded.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I like to imagine replies are more often for future readers than for the OP.
Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 2 months ago
And also it’s quite spontaneous. It’s not like you have to thump it to start it boiling. When the pressure gets to the right mark, it just starts.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Are all image links on Lemmy.zip blocked by cloudflare?
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Pretty much the definition of spontaneous if you ask me.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Yes, afaik in science community that is in fact the correct use of the word, meaning from “environmental” conditions (well, it’s test conditions for the environment in this case) and not from an active, localised influence.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, if you put some stuff in a room, then slowly start to heat the room up, would you describe the things — which will at one point or another catch fire —as “spontaneously” combusting?
I’m not arguing the use is wrong here, just a thought I had.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Eh, it definitely has a cause. A known one. The fact water will boil isn’t spontaneous. “Spontaneous” still works for the sole reason which specific molecules is nigh impossible to predict.
So, who is correct depends entirely on the mental framing of what someone thinks of when they read “water”.
This post isn’t showcasing mansplaining. It’s showcasing pedantry.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“Spontaneous” is actually the correct word to use here, using its definition in statistical mechanics.
Here’s an example: …pressbooks.tru.ca/…/5-6/
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Just like this comment!
Donkter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Spontaneous doesn’t mean “happens suddenly without explanation” what are you on about?
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Nothing to do with the physical definition of spontaneity. Spontaneity of a process just means that the ∆G is negative or total energy of the system is lower after the process, and additional energy isn’t required for the process to be thermodynamically allowed.
Also unrelated, but it is fully impossible to predict, since in trying to predict it well enough you reach quantum scales where everything is probabilistic. That doesn’t at all mean everything is spontaneous.
Nope, the first person is strictly correct and the second is strictly incorrect, as described above.
Nope, exactly spontaneous. You could even forget about water entirely and model this just as a bunch of nuclei and electrons in a box and derive that the lowest energy state has them being in a gas of atoms, and the initial state doesn’t, which is enough to demonstrate by our earlier statements that boiling is spontaneous.
This is “not even wrong” territory.
It absolutely is. We will define mansplaining here as the confidently correct dismissal of statements of women by men where we suspect that the genders of the participants may play a role.
The first part has been demonstrated above. It is also reasonable to assume the second given that we observe this happening to women at a far greater frequency than to men. Although, like with atoms, we cannot prove that this individual instance is a direct result, it is consistent with the probabilistic data and we would need additional evidence to conclude that this particular guy just goes around wrongly correcting everyone equally.
Once again, not remotely.
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Everything has a cause.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
While you are technically correct, you also misunderstand who the target audience is and what language is required to actually make people understand.
When speaking to a normal person you don’t want to slap random jargon and care too much about precise definitions. So in that context spontaneous is a great word to describe what is happening. People without deep backgrounds in the field will not understand technical jargon and it will only make them not pay attention.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 months ago
I'd still say it's spontaneous because when you reduce pressure you're removing a factor rather than adding one. It's like saying "when you compress a spring and then remove the compression force, it will spontaneously return to its previous length." Water vapor can be seen as water's "natural" state when thero no pressure forcing it to be a liquid. Also saying "simple thermo" to an astronaut is definitely mansplaining, because it implies the other person doesn't know that simple thermo.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Hahaha, under that definition not spontaneous can ever occur
BussyGyatt@feddit.org 2 months ago
no
Megamanexent@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I agree, it really is showcasing pedantry. That man is just an asshole, not a misogynistic asshole. To me, this thread is full of confirmation bias. People who want to see what they personally believe, not objective reality.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
It’s not an external cause. It boils on its own, because the molecules don’t want to be close together.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
You should be an astronaut
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
In addition to what MotoAsh said, it also has a definite external influence and a well defined force acting upon it. It boiled because it underwent a change in pressure.
feannag@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Without apparent external influence. Relative pressure is something humans have a hard time judging. As well as it just exists everyone in that zone vice something easy to perceive, like a fire under a pot boiling water.